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Discussion in 'Debate Other Religions & Faiths' started by DWA2DAY, Sep 18, 2017.

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  1. DWA2DAY

    DWA2DAY convictions are worse Enemies of Truth than Lies!

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    I have just finished reading the book “People vs Muhammad” by JK Sheindlin. I would like to know others people comments on this book.

    All I can say is man I am glad I am a follower of Jesus and the textual criticism done on the Bible over the centuries is a walk in the park in comparison to the junk written in the Hadith's (Teaching and says of Muhammad).

    For those of you who have not read it here is a preview of what you will find. Yes my Muslim friends it is embracing and I am sure you will be offended but this is what is in the Hadiths of your faith. The only issue here is Sheindln has taken the time to read them and publish what Muslims believe.



     
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    One of the most hateful and vile pieces written against the Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) is the book called ‘People Vs Muhammad ’. It is expected from venomous creatures to be like this in their private gatherings but the fact that such vile and disgusting words were formed into a book which was well received by many Neo Nazis is what prompted me to write a refutation.

    Much of the criticism is repetitive in nature and a lot has been copied from hateful websites. The author, many times, just makes some unfounded claims in brief and simply moves on. Such claims also require addressing but since this would cover a lot of space, specific dedicated links are added to direct the reader to the relevant clarification and explanation. Therefore, it is insisted to not ignore the links and footnotes; they are as essential as the main body, if not more.
    ‘The People vs Muhammad - Refuted
     
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    This videos are fake propaganda for the book. The writer wants to give pseudo-reputation to his unknown book. The supposed subtitles are irrelevant to the speech. The second video is about "Muhammad Mursi" and has nothing to do with any book. :scratch:
     
  4. DWA2DAY

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    as I said Muslims will be offend by it. However it is out there and backed up by referance to the quran and Hadith of the highest quality that Islam can not deny.
    Having read the book and the video and having a look at your supposed link all I can say to you is Taqiyya -
    All you link deals with is direct bad mouth the author and not addressing one of the claims made in the book. for example clearly from the Quran and supporting Hadith Muhammad was a pedophile.

    Further more he did not follow his rules of ablution, and believe camel urine to heal illness.
    Sahih Bukhari 7:71:590, & 8:82:796, Sahih Muslim 16:4130

    Better still Muslims have one intestine while everyone else has seven. Sahih Muslim 23:5113

    If you choose to defend your faith. Best you come up with a beter argument than that.

    PS did you know the sun set in a pool of muddy water. In the quran 18:86. This is the uncorupted word of Allah. Yea right.
     
  5. DWA2DAY

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    Let us agree with you for a moment that the subtitles has nothing to do with the speech.
    The fact still remain the subtitles have everything to do with the Book and it makes a mockery of Islam.
    Believing in a cross dressing white dwarf, who thinks Satan sleeps in your nose. Sahih Muslim 2:462 is not going to get you to paradise.
     
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    I doubt we would name some concept based on an Arabic word. Taqiya is as Islamic as the Quran is, which is where it is found.
     
  8. Abu Rahma

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    Can you show me the word taqiyya or even the concept in the Qur'an? I can surely show you the concept in Christian and Jewish books.
     
  9. Targaryen

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    The concept these people are trying to claim Quaranic evidence on is Surah 3:28 I believe.

    28. Let not the believers take the disbelievers as Auliya (supporters, helpers, etc.) instead of the believers, and whoever does that will never be helped by Allah in any way, except if you indeed fear a danger from them. And Allah warns you against Himself (His Punishment), and to Allah is the final return.

    However, I find that those that try to use that take the verse out of context.
     
  10. DWA2DAY

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    Oh who told you this..... were is your proof or is this once again your blind faith and inability to defend your faith through intellectual truthful dialog due to your lack of knowledge. You see when I read my quran this is what I find regarding Taqiyya:-
    Surah 16:106 - Establishes that there are circumstances that can "compel" a Muslim to tell a lie.

    Surah 3:28 - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to "guard themselves" against danger, meaning that there are times when a Muslim should appear friendly to non-Muslims, even though they should not feel that way..

    Surah 9:3 - "...Allah and His Messenger are free from liability to the idolaters..." The dissolution of oaths with the pagans who remained at Mecca following its capture. They did nothing wrong, but were evicted anyway.

    I could go onto the related Hadith but the point here is if you do not follow the example of Muhammad well then you are not a muslin but a hypocrite which is punishable by death. Surah 33:21, 4:66-67 & 3:114.

    In short your claim the Taqiyya is a Christian concept actually proves my case by lying about the truth in the hopes that the followers of Jesus Christ are ignorant of the schemes of Satan and false religions like Islam.

    I have already responded to this.
    Besides if you have anything of value to add, defend you faith, buy making a personal stand to actual comments and not those of others. Failing which I rest my case and state Islam is nothing more than the writings of an insecure fat dwarf with major physiological disorders.
     
  11. DWA2DAY

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    Please show us, we waiting in anticipation.
    Please do not show you inability to read the context of the passage within the bounds of the total Biblical narrative. For your guidance I quote 2 thessalonias 2:7-12
    For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.
    The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
     
  12. DWA2DAY

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    to set the record staight here, one needs to look and see the Tafsir (interpretation and commentary) of the Quran. Jalalyan is the most respected and widly used Tafsir writen in Islamic theology and this is what he has to say:-
    Let not the believers take the disbelievers as patrons rather than that is instead of the believers — for whoever does that that is whoever takes them as patrons does not belong to the religion of God in anyway — unless you protect yourselves against them as a safeguard tuqātan ‘as a safeguard’ is the verbal noun from taqiyyatan that is to say unless you fear something in which case you may show patronage to them through words but not in your hearts this was before the hegemony of Islam and the dispensation applies to any individual residing in a land with no say in it. God warns you He instills fear in you of His Self warning that He may be wrathful with you if you take them as patrons; and to God is the journey’s end the return and He will requite you."

    Hope this clears up your misunderstanding the passage is taken out of context.

    Tafsir al-Jalalayn
     
  13. Targaryen

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    I didn't actually need clarification. I'm not the one trying to prove a point on his own shoddy theology concerning Islam
     
  14. DWA2DAY

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    Hi Targaryen.
    Yes I was pritty sure you did not need clarification. However through my experience in Muslim evangelism our Muslim friends will jump quickly on to the phrase used .....
    ...to show disunity in the Christian faith. So my post was directed more to the Muslim reader and not you. So thank you for creating the platform to close a potential objection.

    Be Blessed with the Love of Jesus Christ.
     
  15. Targaryen

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    You seek to use shoddy theology and the Bible like a hammer and sword simultaneously in such an effort to prove the fallacy of not acknowledging Christ as Lord. Polemics when trying to convert do absolutely nothing to help the cause.

    There is no disunity in the Christian faith, there is in it's practice when the Bible is being used to bludgeon rather then guide.
     
  16. DWA2DAY

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    What absolute twaddle,
     
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  18. Hieronymus

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    Yeah right...
     
  19. Hieronymus

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    I wonder how long this topic will stay open...
     
  20. DWA2DAY

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    Hi Hieronymus.
    Have you read the book?
     
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