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Peace in the Middle East.

Discussion in 'International Politics' started by Usethepen, Jan 28, 2013.

  1. Usethepen

    Usethepen Newbie

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    First one has to solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
    To do that you may need to look at the Jerusalem issue.
    Jerusalem has 3 holy sites for 3 different religions.

    Do you give the city to the UN?

    Do you give a parts of the city to 3 different countries?
     
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  2. interpreter

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    As an end result of the Battle of Ar Mageddon, the great city will be divided 3 ways. Then there will be peace for a thousand years.
     
  3. mindlight

    mindlight See in the dark Supporter

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    The UN are not the solution nor dividing the city. The Jews and Arabs both need to become Christians and to greet the Messiah who alone is capable of breaking down the dividing wall of hostility between them. Until then the land and city belongs to the Jews.
     
  4. Lilly Owl

    Lilly Owl Since when is God's adversary a curse word here?

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    Does anyone know enough about history to share, has there ever been peace in the middle east?
    (While humans populated it that is. ;))
     
  5. mindlight

    mindlight See in the dark Supporter

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  6. interpreter

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    If the Revelation says that Jerusalem will be divided 3 ways, then it will be divided 3 ways.
     
  7. Ronald

    Ronald Exhortations Supporter

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  8. lismore

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    Obadiah 1:

    18 Jacob will be a fire
    and Joseph a flame;
    Esau will be stubble,
    and they will set him on fire and destroy him.
    There will be no survivors
    from Esau.”
    The Lord has spoken.
    19 People from the Negev will occupy
    the mountains of Esau,
    and people from the foothills will possess
    the land of the Philistines.
    They will occupy the fields of Ephraim and Samaria,
    and Benjamin will possess Gilead.

    Sounds like the day of peace to me.

    :clap:
     
  9. interpreter

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  10. Ronald

    Ronald Exhortations Supporter

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  11. LionofJudahDK

    LionofJudahDK Well-Known Member

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    :ahah:
    Ahem......no. Just....no.
    The UN can't wipe it's own behind, much less run anything....and CERTAINLY not anything as complex as a city.

    [/quote]

    No.
    No Israeli government is going to agree to seperating Jerusalem. It's just not going to happen. So the Arabs are going to have be compensated in other ways, for instance dismantling most of the settlements in Judea and Samaria, and trading land for those settlements too big to dismantle (places like Gilo, Ma'aleh Adumim, etc)

    Good thing it does not say that, then.

    "peace" as in "Christians and Jews treated like trash, by the muslim overlords, which changed when Israel was established"? Yes.
    Peace as in the "Oh so tolerant islam"-myth that's gained prominence? No.


    Finally: I get really...really......exhausted when I hear people say: "Revelation says this and this, therefore this and this will happen 100% literally in 2 years, because I've counted 730 on the inside!!!" or some other nonsense like that.
    Revelation is not a palantír, much less is it a detailed "20 steps to the ending"-step-for-step-guide to current events.
    Though its message and themes are still very much relevant for us today, because the topics it mentions are timeless, it is so full of the symbolism that characterizes 1st century Apocalyptic litterature, and of OT-references, that one needs to pay very close attention to this while interpreting anything it says. Much like the nonsense about the number 666 being everything from barcodes, to credit cards, to Obama, etc.
     
  12. interpreter

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  13. Usethepen

    Usethepen Newbie

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    How about letting the Palestinians have the Dome of the Rock ?
    Make it like an Embassy.
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2013
  14. LionofJudahDK

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    That's a matter between Jordan (who currently is in control of the Temple Mount) and the so-called "Palestinians".
     
  15. LionofJudahDK

    LionofJudahDK Well-Known Member

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    Nice try, Adolf, but it seems I know more about the conditions there than you do. I've lived in Israel, in Jerusalem, no less, for a year, all in all, and I never experienced anything negative on account of me being a Christian. On the contrary.

    The Jews are not the problem for the Christian Arabs. There are many more Christian Arabs in Israel, than in Judea and Samaria - why do you suspect that is? Because in Israel, they are left in peace, and not persecuted for not being muslims.
    There is no better place in the Middle East to be a Christian, than Israel. Fact.

    Take your "apartheit"-Pallywood propaganda, and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. None of us are buying it.
     
  16. interpreter

    interpreter Senior Member

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    Lol. Jordan has had no control over the temple mount since 1967.
     
  17. LionofJudahDK

    LionofJudahDK Well-Known Member

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    LOL
    Wrong.
    The Waqf, which controls the Temple Mount, is under Jordanian control
     
  18. Oafman

    Oafman Try telling that to these bog brained murphys

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    No there hasn't. There's one big reason why, and I'm not offering prizes!

    And one thing we certainly should NOT do, in the search for Middle East peace, is consult a book written in the bronze age.
     
  19. abdAlSalam

    abdAlSalam Bearded Marxist

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    To be fair though, by and large no region of the globe has been peaceful for very long.
     
  20. interpreter

    interpreter Senior Member

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    Israel has control over the temple mount.
     
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