Paul the heretic??

[1John2:4]

Yes. ignore it, your house of cards are crumbling like the walls of Jericho

Really friend,
"Peter ate with uncircumcised Gentiles, contrary to Passover feast laws given to Israel. Solomon was rich and had many wives, contrary to Torah law for kings of Israel. Is that a contradiction?" I'm sorry I say this with the utmost respect, what are you trying to say in this quote. Thank you

 

[ToBeLoved]

Let the Bible be corrupted??? Get a clue, God let Satan mislead the entire world, he doesn't write Books, imperfect holy men do. But don't get me wrong, Paul was a great man committed to Christ, but I'm a disciple of the original Gospel. Jesus is my Lord, Paul was a human messenger of Jesus.

lol. And how many churches were setup in Jesus time? You think the church was built by no one?

Paul of course is a messenger of Jesus. Paul says the same about himself.

So what's your point Colter?

After Jesus died, your Jesus lost control of the world?

 

[W2L]

Really friend,
"Peter ate with uncircumcised Gentiles, contrary to Passover feast laws given to Israel. Solomon was rich and had many wives, contrary to Torah law for kings of Israel. Is that a contradiction?" I'm sorry I say this with the utmost respect, what are you trying to say in this quote. Thank you

You tell me. What is the scripture saying there?

 

[ToBeLoved]

Really friend,
"Peter ate with uncircumcised Gentiles, contrary to Passover feast laws given to Israel.

Wow. So Peter at with uncircumcised Gentiles after Jesus died for the salvation of both Jew and Gentile? You don't say.

Of course he did, after God showed him that if God declares that no animal is unclean, no animal is unclean.

What is your problem with that? Specifically?

Jesus died to bring in the New Covenant, not to carry over the Old Covenant.

 

[W2L]

Wow. So Peter at with uncircumcised Gentiles after Jesus died for the salvation of both Jew and Gentile? You don't say.

Of course he did, after God showed him that if God declares that no animal is unclean, no animal is unclean.

What is your problem with that? Specifically?

Jesus died to bring in the New Covenant, not to carry over the Old Covenant.

You see, he believes in keeping Torah, even circumcision. Obviously he doesn't agree with pauls doctrine. If he believes in Torah, to the letter, without any subtraction from it, then how can he justify Peter eating with uncircumcised gentiles? Its against Torah to eat Passover with uncircumcised gentiles.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Really? How do you get from sola scriptura to the free market, just as a matter of interest?

Sola scriptura gives room for everyone to prove anything from the bible because the bible has no means of speaking on its own.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

So God and Yeshua are they contrary to each other then?

Maybe your God, but I recall in the gospels, Jesus taught something about his Father. Do you believe God does good to those who do evil to him? Because Jesus said, be like him and do the same.

 

[ToBeLoved]

You see, he believes in keeping Torah, even circumcision. Obviously he doesn't agree with pauls doctrine. If he believes in Torah, to the letter, without any subtraction from it, then how can he justify Peter eating with uncircumcised gentiles? Its against Torah to eat Passover with uncircumcised gentiles.

I hear you.

But then how can he justify Jesus eating with tax collectors and prostitutes or healing on the Sabbath? It's a tangled web they weave.

Because He believes Jesus was perfect right? But broke the Sabbath? How can that be?

 

[W2L]

I hear you.

But then how can he justify Jesus eating with tax collectors and prostitutes or healing on the Sabbath? It's a tangled web they weave.

Because He believes Jesus was perfect right? But broke the Sabbath? How can that be?

He will justify the Lord healing on the Sabbath, and use torah to do it, but he cant easily justify peter eating with uncircumcised gentiles.

 

[MWood]

Lets get back on topic here?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Lets get back on topic here?

Hmmmm, from Paul the heretic to what is heresy? or something to that effect.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Paul is not a heretic, the word heretic means to choose, since God chose him ... you'd be calling God the heretic. Now I don't mind being a heretic like Jesus ... but it can be so lonely .. you know?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Its against Torah to eat Passover with uncircumcised gentiles.

Maybe someone else answered already, I didn't see.
Actually it's not against Torah.

 

[ToBeLoved]

You see, he believes in keeping Torah, even circumcision. Obviously he doesn't agree with pauls doctrine. If he believes in Torah, to the letter, without any subtraction from it, then how can he justify Peter eating with uncircumcised gentiles? Its against Torah to eat Passover with uncircumcised gentiles.

I think he believes in aliens too!

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Paul was a heretic to the Jewish religion. Heresy is very relative.

 

[W2L]

Maybe someone else answered already, I didn't see.
Actually it's not against Torah.

Yes it is, the scripture was posted in one of these threads.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Yes it is, the scripture was posted in one of these threads.

I would be curious to see which scriptures, as the original "pass over" of the angel of death involved both the Hebrews and the Egyptians who chose to participate... or lose their first born.

 

[ewq1938]

Paul was a heretic to the Jewish religion.

No, he was an Apostate to that religion.

Wiki:

Heresy is any belief or theory that is strongly at variance with established beliefs or customs. A heretic is a proponent of such claims or beliefs.[1] Heresy is distinct from both apostasy, which is the explicit renunciation of one's religion, principles or cause,[2] and blasphemy, which is an impious utterance or action concerning God or sacred things.[3]

 

[ToBeLoved]

Yes it is, the scripture was posted in one of these threads.

I agree it is. That is why God needed to give Peter those visions, to show Peter that no food was unclean and he would eat with the Gentiles. Isn't there something about mixing clean and unclean food or something.

 

[W2L]

I would be curious to see which scriptures, as the original "pass over" of the angel of death involved both the Hebrews and the Egyptians who chose to participate... or lose their first born.

Exodus 12:48New International Version (NIV)

48 “A foreigner residing among you who wants to celebrate the Lord’s Passover must have all the males in his household circumcised; then he may take part like one born in the land. No uncircumcised male may eat it.