Partial rapture

[Linda8]

The reward is involved with those who were matured (1st Resurrection, Rev. 20.4) in Christ to reign with Christ for 1000 years with an iron rod over the nations after Great Tribulation.


(2) The Great Tribulation cannot begin before Satan is cast down to earth. Satan will be cast down at the sounding of the fifth trumpet (9.1); and before the horrible situation of the 42 months prevails on earth (13.5), the man child is already raptured to the throne (12.5). Though this man child may not include all the people referred to in 7.9, nonetheless we dare say that it embraces a part of that great multitude.

Will the martyrs of old deserve their positions by Christ when they reign with him for 1000 years due to their overcoming the Beast by refusing to worship
the Beast even to the point of death?.

Why was the Beast more active centuries ago as compared to today?

Makes one wonder whether Christ is going to add anymore to his co-reigners
in the Millenium. The Beast seems to have murdered most of the saints a long time ago.

 

[Troy777]

Linda8,

I believe all "martyrs of old" fall under the category of Saints of the Most High, including those from the Old Testament period. Martyrs are specifically those though who were martyrd in the last 20 centuries and in the Tribulation who were martyrd for Christ's sake

I think the Beast was more active only by appearance centuries ago. Before his weapon was death. But he has wised up. Now he is more refined in his approach and loves people to hold onto their good selves, because he believes he can gain a greater foothold in their lives that way. Imagine the difference of deceiving someone fast verses brainwashing them over something for years, eg. false tongues.

Those overcomers that reign with Christ is God's choosing. Let's leave it up to Him. I have no wonder about "whether Christ is going to add anymore". I know that He will have His overcomers and finally get to walk with them, when final resurrection takes place at the 7th trumpet and discipline non-overcomers in Christ in "outer darkness".

The Beast operates not through just murder, but also through maintaining one in unregeneration and possessing Christians.

 

[duster1az]

Troy777 writes: "The problem is you do not know your full condition or not, because you are you, you are not God, but the Word of God affords you all you need to work towards sonship, and receieve the grace of God to reach a life of overcoming."

"But when the fulness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law, in order that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons. And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts crying Abba! Father!" (Gal. 4:4-6)

I'm already a son. In this new position I'm exhorted to walk in a manner worthy of my calling (Eph. 4:1; Rom. 12:1-2), but it is not a plea for something a believer must do to be saved or to continue saved; it's rather something one should do because they are saved. The exhortation is for dedication and not for consecration, since concecration is an act of God alone.

Troy777 writes: "If as a Christian you just remain in substitutory death (forgiveness for sins) you miss half of salvation, being (co-death experience with Christ). While the first deals with your sins, the latter deals with the power of sin."

The Apostle Paul wrote, "For that which I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate" (Rom. 7:15). Through maturity Paul learned that in order to live a victorious life one must rely upon the indwelling Spirit to overcome the lusts of the flesh (Gal. 5:16). In the partial rapture view Paul would have missed out if the first had taken place before he'd come to maturity.

I'll never understand or accept as valid the attempts at perfection in order to receive the approbation of God when we could never reach a perfection beyond our position "in Christ."



In Christ,
Tracey

 

[good4u]

Potential consequences of various beliefs:
2. Post-tribulation-onlyist - will be to hardened in his spirit because he is expecting the going through the Great Tribulation, not realizing we can escape if we are ready, thus he won't be sensitive to his spirit. Pre-warth is similar.

Only one end-time view is correct, and partial rapture deals with all these holes.

My, my you think you have this all figured out don't you? Just where is a partial rapture mentioned in Scripture, hmmm? I don't see any such event and who is going and who is not?

You are entitled to your opinon. But it is not based on the teaching of Scripture. My, my some false teacher has you hook, line and sinker. BTW, just where did this "point of view" come from? I am dying to know.

 

[gaetan8888]

Gaetan8888,

Trust me, that slow working has been underway since the mystery religions at corinth. And now all of a sudden about a hundred years ago it began to accelerate exponentionally in the first wave movement. By 1950 came about the charismatic 2nd wave movement. And today we are in the midst of the 3rd wave movement which the Roman Catholic Church "charismatics" don't want to get left behind on, so they are endorsing with full force the principles of Pentecostal false tongues which will instill waves of forthcoming delusions in the masses, certainly not the narrow path leading up to the narrow gate. There is no point in even praying for them. Most are too fargone and according to Mark 3.28-30 and 1 John 5.16,17 we are admonished by scripture not pray for them.

Hi

Yes, but so much things are to come, as an example; since decades there's UFO in the sky, I'm sure that those aliens (who can be demons) will do an official landing and bring their thechnologies and false religions, it's gone do a real mess on earth.

Gaetan

 

[Josh1]

Troy77 : 1. Pre-tribulation-onlyists - will be too weak to refuse the mark because he expected he would be raptured at 1st rapture because he was too fantasy oriented and over-assuming of his rapture.
2. Post-tribulation-onlyist - will be to hardened in his spirit because he is expecting the going through the Great Tribulation, not realizing we can escape if we are ready, thus he won't be sensitive to his spirit. Pre-warth is similar.
3. Preterists deny a Great Tribulation, just as do Amillienists and that results in also unpreparing them for end times because they thought it could never happen, plus their standards of God' 1000 year reign literally, mistaking it for today.
4. Post-milleniasts sufferin the same problem in the matter of rewards of the millennial kingom because they think the 1000 years is now.

Only one end-time view is correct, and partial rapture deals with all these holes.



These are what you call big, gigantic strawmen. The incredible strawman. So, how many raptures do you have in all? As many as it takes to get them "weak" believers into heaven? There is a big reason why partial rapture is not mainstream, because it has so many holes, you can't even see the bucket, lol. God Bless.



Josh

 

[Troy777]

duster1az (Tracey),

I'm already a son. In this new position I'm exhorted to walk in a manner worthy of my calling (Eph. 4:1; Rom. 12:1-2), but it is not a plea for something a believer must do to be saved or to continue saved; it's rather something one should do because they are saved. The exhortation is for dedication and not for consecration, since concecration is an act of God alone.

Once saved always saved. There is nothing you need to do to be saved, you are right. But you note the problem well, "something one should do because they are saved", yet many do not do that which God leads them to do. They don't listen, and in that not listening to that "still small voice" in their spirit, what happens? They have not kept the Word of His Patience" Rev. 3.10. Therefore they shall be kept from the HOUR of trial, that is the Tribulation. They are saved, just not yet matured in Christ. You are exhorted to allow God to consecrate you, set you apart as holy, as Christian not remain in your ways. Unfortunately that is not always the case in all Christians and that is why there is both a 1st rapture and 7th trumpet resurrection.

The Apostle Paul wrote, "For that which I am doing, I do not understand; for I am not practicing what I would like to do, but I am doing the very thing I hate" (Rom. 7:15). Through maturity Paul learned that in order to live a victorious life one must rely upon the indwelling Spirit to overcome the lusts of the flesh (Gal. 5:16). In the partial rapture view Paul would have missed out if the first had taken place before he'd come to maturity.

Paul would not have missed out, because, If Paul, hypothetically, was not matured in Christ then he would go through Great Tribulation, given further opportunity to mature, because he would not have yet been ready to be received, under partial rapture at 1st rapture. Simple.

In 1 thes. 4.15 Would Paul enlist himself among this class of people who are alive and are left? Not at all. He uses the word “we” only because he is speaking at that moment of writing, and the proof of this is that since Paul no longer lives today, he cannot be numbered among those who are left on earth. Our summary conclusion to all this is that the third school of interpretation seems to be the correct one - that is to say, that one group of believers will be raptured before the Tribulation while another group of believers will go through the Tribulation and be raptured afterwards.

I'll never understand or accept as valid the attempts at perfection in order to receive the approbation of God when we could never reach a perfection beyond our position "in Christ."

That is because you misunderstand the meaning of perfection. Perfection in the Bible means working towards maturity in Christ and being watchful prayerful and keeping the Word of His patience a working towards perfection, not sitting back as lazy-saved, but activity, not passivity. Active in spirit, soul and body. That is what makes Christianity so incredible, for the sabbath has passed away, today we celebrate the next day, the Lord's day which is positive. God has His righteousness, and man has his righteousnesses. We come before God clothed with His righteousness, and do his will with His rightreousness He bestows upon us in our righteousness that is well pleasing to Him. We are not walking zombies, but made in the image of God.

Hbr 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection (maturity); not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,

Keep working toward this by the leading of the Holy Spirit and then God may have for you a white stone (see each church of Revelation 2 and 3, they are given somethin special to know they would have been 1st raptured, and not needed to have gone through the time of testing, obviously since there is nothing to test them for, since they can no longer be hurt by the second death.

 

[Troy777]

God4U (Dallas Willard),

My, my you think you have this all figured out don't you? Just where is a partial rapture mentioned in Scripture, hmmm? I don't see any such event and who is going and who is not?

You are entitled to your opinon. But it is not based on the teaching of Scripture. My, my some false teacher has you hook, line and sinker. BTW, just where did this "point of view" come from? I am dying to know.

I know you don't see any such event. Lets start you off with some milk. Chapter 7 do you see the raptured church in heaven? What follows next is the 7th seal which opens up the 7 trumpets of Tribulation. Slide over to chapter 12 and see that those mentioned in 7.9 are the overcomers because (a) the white garmets are promised to those in Sardis who have not defiled their garmets, and (b) are not to pass through the trial of the Great Tribulation for it is assured to those in Philadelphia who have kept the word of patience, and (c) the palm is always a symbol of victory. The man child spoken of in 12.5 is likewise an overcomer, since he will rule the nations with an iron rod.

What you believe is not based on the teaching of scripture. That is what the wide path 4 main end time views are all about to argue back and forth with (pretrib, posttrib, ammell.,post-mell.). Someone is having a heyday with this.

Partial brings together partial truths in pre- and post-. Ammell. (increased hardness in this equivalent tribulation of said to be millennium of low standards) and post-mill. (of ever increasing beauty in this said to be of millennium of low standards) obviously have the negative consequences of hardness of the spirit and refusing God's rewards to His overcomers in the millennial kingdom as well as His personal desire to walk with us for 1000 years, that is His who are ready and matured. This 1000 years is needed to usher in the new city for it will take time build on Mars (new earth) where the sea has turned to glass.

But in those varios today millennial views is not a breaking apart of reigning with Christ and the resurrected body rewarded for a period of time to usher in eternal blessings in a new literal city.

Praise the Lord for His discernment!

 

[Troy777]

To gaetan888,

Hi

Yes, but so much things are to come, as an example; since decades there's UFO in the sky, I'm sure that those aliens (who can be demons) will do an official landing and bring their thechnologies and false religions, it's gone do a real mess on earth.

Gaetan

A end times web page;
http://www.cyberquebec.ca/prs/gaetan8888

You never know. Or maybe the expanse of space is too large to be traveled from one solar system to another let alone the more likely possibility that if there is inhabited life in another solar system it would be more than just one solar system away which would take 1000s of years to reach.

God is so loving that he prevented the use of such an event occuring by creating such a wide expanse. Mars is your your new earth for at least 700 generations after the millennial kingdom. And the resurrected will inhabit the new city only, will not be taken in marriage, and will reign over the kings of the new earth who will rule over the nations, and those kings of the new earth and the nations in maintaining authority and submission like that between the Father and the Son who are now one at the center of the city will be nations and peoples with physical bodies and as long as they want to continue to have eternal life they must come back to the tree of life in the new city to receive replenishment. Though there is no sickness in new earth there will still be weakness.

Just as the nations are transferred livingly from the Great Tribulation into the millennial kingdom and will be reigned over by the resurrected overcomers in Christ, so too will the peoples at the end of the millennial kingdom be transferred livingly into the new earth, and all those who had been resurrected previously will make up the new city, and the temple will be gone for now God is with them.

I don't see more than 1 billion resurrected occupying the new city 1500 miles x 1500 miles.

 

[Troy777]

To Josh1,

These are what you call big, gigantic strawmen. The incredible strawman. So, how many raptures do you have in all? As many as it takes to get them "weak" believers into heaven? There is a big reason why partial rapture is not mainstream, because it has so many holes, you can't even see the bucket, lol. God Bless.



Josh

Please Josh, I dare not be wrong. If I have made a mistake please point out to me where so I may change my ways. When someone tells me I am strawmen should I just immediately believe him or should I ask him why, how, where? If you can not say, maybe you are strawman.

I have 1 rapture at 1st rapture which starts the war in heaven that casts Satan out of heaven that starts Tribulation where he finally has the key in chapter 9 to start Great Tribulation. The two witnesses are raptured. And obviously a 7th trumpet rapture. And a rapture at the end of the 1000 years for the remaining resurrected that will make up the new city. Plus Enoch and Elijah were already raptured in a sense, though not to the throne in the OT.

Plus Christ's rapture I can guarantee you there are at least 6 raptures in total. I can only say what I know for sure. I will not make the bold claim that there is a 7th or 77 more.

Don't you think there is strength in weakness?

The narrow path through the narrow gate will never be mainstream. Even God said that after Tribulations men will not change their ways.

It is not about getting you into heaven, but about God being able to receive you into heaven. How can He receive that which is not ready?

 

[GodsWatchman]

I believe partial rapture is the only possible view for end times.

It is different than all the other views. It is about being ready to be received and matured. When man has reached a certain point of maturity in this age of mystery, consummation of this age of mystery and grace will begin.

God has foreknown when this will occur, and has set in motion a plan.

When we are ready to be received to the Throne ALIVE, just before Tribulation, then God will receive you into heaven and give you a newly clothed spiritual body necessary for entering heaven.

This is actually what precipitates the war in heaven that commences Tribulation. You can't have raptured overcomers (man-child) in heaven and Satan there at the same time.

If you are not ready to be received at this time which we may call 1st rapture, you will then go through the time of testing whether you are saved or not saved. You may still qualify for the 1st resurrection even if you go through Great Tribulation.

1st resurrection refers to the reigning during the millennial. Though all Christians are saved. Not all Christians will reign during the millennial kingdom with Christ with an iron rod as reward. 1st resurrection is considered a "best" "out-of" resurrection from the general resurrecton.

The general resurrection includes all who have evern been raptured, whether alive, or from the grave. The 1st rapture only inlcudes living overcomers, wheras the 7th trumpet resurrection includes all dead and alive Christians.

Ok - you got ONE THING RIGHT in that entire post. I'm very supprised that you got this right too, considering how far off you are from the truth. That one thing is:

overcomers = (man-child). Yes - that is a correct understanding. The rest is - phewwyyy - way off.

 

[Linda8]

Ok - you got ONE THING RIGHT in that entire post. I'm very supprised that you got this right too, considering how far off you are from the truth. That one thing is:

overcomers = (man-child). Yes - that is a correct understanding. The rest is - phewwyyy - way off.

Where did the overcomers who were killed , like apostle Peter, go to?

Was Peter raptured before his crucifixion? How quaint , an overcomer

being raptured before being subjected to the test to prove whether

you could even overcome or not.

Overcome by hiding?

Would Peter reigning with such?

 

[FreeinChrist]

Where did the overcomers who were killed , like apostle Peter, go to?

Was Peter raptured before his crucifixion? How quaint , an overcomer

being raptured before being subjected to the test to prove whether

you could even overcome or not.

Overcome by hiding?

Would Peter reigning with such?

You aren't making very much sense hee, IMHO. Where did Peter go? His body went to the grave and his spirit to God. The physical resurrection of those in Christ is yet to occur.

An overcomer is one who is in Christ. Period.
1Jo 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world--our faith.1Jo 5:5 Who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

 

[Troy777]

LInda8,

Where did the overcomers who were killed , like apostle Peter, go to?Was Peter raptured before his crucifixion? How quaint , an overcomer being raptured before being subjected to the test to prove whether you could even overcome or not. Overcome by hiding? Would Peter reigning with such?

Martyrs will be raptured at at the 5th seal before the 6th seal seen in chapter 7 as well as living overcomers, raptured alive.

Peter would most defintely be an overcomer and be part of the man-child that starts off the war in heaven casting Satan down and given the key by the angel to open the pit to let out the Antichrist which if we are in the Tribulation right now then the Antichrist would be Alan Greenspan, and Bush the false prophet. And we have had 7 bubble years from 1993 to 2000 and now within months if we are in the Tribulation will be the start of Great Tribulation.

This would mean the martyrs and living overcomers around the year 2000 were already raptured.

 

[Troy777]

Freeinchrist,

You aren't making very much sense hee, IMHO. Where did Peter go? His body went to the grave and his spirit to God. The physical resurrection of those in Christ is yet to occur. An overcomer is one who is in Christ. Period. 1Jo 5:4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world; and this is the victory that has overcome the world--our faith.1Jo 5:5 Who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

All Christians overcome, that is a given, though not all Christians overcome while still in their fleshly bodies. Some need to be disciplined in "outer darkness" to prepare them for the New City while the overcomers in Christ reign with an iron rod for 1000 years in the reward of recompense and so that Christ can walk with His matured believers.

The overcomers are a separate and distinct class of Christians for whom special rewards are offered and particular honours accorded. There are and have always been faithful and unfaithful Christians—Obedient and disobe¬dient children of the Lord — carnal and spiritual Christians — overcomers and those who are overcome. There is no conflict in an individual’s life until he has been saved. After salvation has come to an individual, then the flesh strives against the Spirit and the Spirit against the flesh, with one or the other winning the victory. See Gal. 5:17-21; Eph. 6:10-18.


To each of the 7 churches in Rev. 2-3 there is a special message given the whole of each church for those within the church to overcometh all the way,
To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it (Rev. 2:17b).

These who overcome are the 1st resurrection (Rev. 20.4). Who can say all Christians are qualifed into Rev. 20.4. Though all Christians are saved, and all Christians will overcome, not all Christians overcome in their bodies.

When you die you don't go to heaven, nor does your spirit. You go to Hades to be resurrected from at 7th trumpet. Your spirit doesn't get seperated from your soul where your soul would stay in Hades Bosom and your spirit goes to heaven. I would hate to be pulled apart like that. Besides you don't get to go to heaven until you get a newly clothed spiritual body. You don't go naked only with your spirit.

 

[gaetan8888]

To gaetan888,



You never know. Or maybe the expanse of space is too large to be traveled from one solar system to another let alone the more likely possibility that if there is inhabited life in another solar system it would be more than just one solar system away which would take 1000s of years to reach.

God is so loving that he prevented the use of such an event occuring by creating such a wide expanse. Mars is your your new earth for at least 700 generations after the millennial kingdom. And the resurrected will inhabit the new city only, will not be taken in marriage, and will reign over the kings of the new earth who will rule over the nations, and those kings of the new earth and the nations in maintaining authority and submission like that between the Father and the Son who are now one at the center of the city will be nations and peoples with physical bodies and as long as they want to continue to have eternal life they must come back to the tree of life in the new city to receive replenishment. Though there is no sickness in new earth there will still be weakness.

Just as the nations are transferred livingly from the Great Tribulation into the millennial kingdom and will be reigned over by the resurrected overcomers in Christ, so too will the peoples at the end of the millennial kingdom be transferred livingly into the new earth, and all those who had been resurrected previously will make up the new city, and the temple will be gone for now God is with them.

I don't see more than 1 billion resurrected occupying the new city 1500 miles x 1500 miles.

Hi Troy777

As I've say to Vinsigh4u, I've seen that many christians want to believe that we are in the big part of the great apostasy, but after years of studying (the Bible, history, archeology and ancients texts), and some visions wen I was children, I'm absolutly sure that the great apostasy will become 100 times worse than hapen in the past and in this century, many things will hapen in the coming years, events that will be so incredibles that most will lost faith, it's not because of wars since it's would kill only your body, but kind of stranges events, discoveries and so-called revelations, so perfects that it's gone be only be the Holy Spirit that we will keep our faith.

It's mean that we all gone have to live the real great apostasy so only a small number of christians will keep faith and since everybody are sure to be "the One who have the truth" it's a mess now on earth.

So if there was a rapture, it's cannot hapen before that big test of the great apostasy, and after that, only few would still have faith to by raptured.

If I talk so much about the great apostasy and the end times it's because since my youth I feel very deeply in my heart that most christians will lost their faith by that apostasy. And that made my sad.

Gaetan

A end times web page;
http://www.cyberquebec.ca/prs/gaetan8888

 

[Dad Ernie]

Troy,

You continue to spout flakey gibberish. Start reading and studying the Word of God instead of spewing out this garbage.

Your Servant in Christ,

Dad Ernie

 

[FreeinChrist]

Freeinchrist,



All Christians overcome, that is a given, though not all Christians overcome while still in their fleshly bodies. Some need to be disciplined in "outer darkness" to prepare them for the New City while the overcomers in Christ reign with an iron rod for 1000 years in the reward of recompense and so that Christ can walk with His matured believers.

I'm sorry, troy, but I do not believe in that malarkey! I don't believe in purgatory, or that we get to heaven based on our efforts or works.

We are either saved in Christ or we are not. It is God who draws, forgives us, and gives us to Christ and He does not do it unless He knows we believe. One of the points of the Law is that we cannot earn our way to heaven. When we are saved, we are made heirs to the promises, adopted by God as a child and given the Holy Spirit, who washes and regenerates us, as a pledge of our inheritance. There is no scriptural backup for a purgatory type punishment for those who are in Christ.

To each of the 7 churches in Rev. 2-3 there is a special message given the whole of each church for those within the church to overcometh all the way,
To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it (Rev. 2:17b).

And the overcomer of any church will recieve all the promises to overcomers of the 7 churches. Your attempt to make class distinctions between Christians is just plain unscriptural. God is not a respecter of persons.

These who overcome are the 1st resurrection (Rev. 20.4). Who can say all Christians are qualifed into Rev. 20.4.

None are. Absolutely no one is worthy of salvation. It is because of Christ that we are saved. To claim we need more than His blood atonement, God's forgiveness, and the washing and regeration of the Holy Spirit to be pure for heaven is a slap at God, IMHO.

When you die you don't go to heaven, nor does your spirit. You go to Hades to be resurrected from at 7th trumpet. Your spirit doesn't get seperated from your soul where your soul would stay in Hades Bosom and your spirit goes to heaven. I would hate to be pulled apart like that. Besides you don't get to go to heaven until you get a newly clothed spiritual body. You don't go naked only with your spirit.

What? Are you aware that several times in the Bible, the word hades simply means grave? Now I believe that the OT saints went to Abraham's bosum prior to the death and resurrection of Christ. but...since then, we have Stephen who said:
Act 7:58 When they had driven him out of the city, they {began} stoning {him;} and the witnesses laid aside their robes at the feet of a young man named Saul.Act 7:59 They went on stoning Stephen as he called on {the Lord} and said, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!"Act 7:60 Then falling on his knees, he cried out with a loud voice, "Lord, do not hold this sin against them!" Having said this, he fell asleep.


And Paul who wrote:

I Corininthians 5: 1- 8 For we know that if our earthly house, this tent, is destroyed, we have a building from God, a house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed with our habitation which is from heaven, 3 if indeed, having been clothed, we shall not be found naked. 4 For we who are in this tent groan, being burdened, not because we want to be unclothed, but further clothed, that mortality may be swallowed up by life. 5 Now He who has prepared us for this very thing is God, who also has given us the Spirit as a guarantee.
6 So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord. 7 For we walk by faith, not by sight. 8 We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.

Being "naked" is not about having a physical body. It is a reference to being sinful - like when Adam and Eve discovered their nakedness. Being 'clothed in Christ' means being forgiven, being renewed in Him, given His life! When saved, we take off the old and put on the new - Christ.

 

[Troy777]

gaetan8888,

It's mean that we all gone have to live the real great apostasy so only a small number of christians will keep faith and since everybody are sure to be "the One who have the truth" it's a mess now on earth.

You are correct. I only point you to one special feature of end times. God has afforded those who have kept the patience of the Lord (Rev.3.10) to escape the HOUR of trial, that is the Tribulation by being raptured to the throne. This is another way of saying if you are watchful and prayerful (in your life) you may be accounted as worthy to escape these things which will come to pass (Luke 21.36) and stand before the throne of God, and the Son of Man, at a 1st rapture, at the throne in heaven and reigning with the Son of Man in the millennial kingdom.

 

[Troy777]

Dad Ernie,

Troy, You continue to spout flakey gibberish. Start reading and studying the Word of God instead of spewing out this garbage.
Dad Ernie

I rebuke your false accusations in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.