Paradoxical question

[FreeGrace2]

Said to Crossnote:

If Christ dies for all men (everyone ever born - including children of Satan) then why does anyone PAY for their sins?

No one pays for their sin. What makes you think otherwise? The Bible is clear that Christ did die for everyone.

2 Cor 5:14,15
14 For Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that one died for all, and therefore all died.
15 And he died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for him who died for them and was raised again.
19 that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting people’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation.

Heb 2:9 - But we do see Jesus, who was made lower than the angels for a little while, now crowned with glory and honor because he suffered death, so that by the grace of God he might taste death for everyone.

1 Tim 2-
3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior,
4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.
5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,
6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.

1 John 4:10 - And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. And don't even bother saying "world" here means "world of the elect" or any other some such nonsense.

The Bible does NOT teach that sins must be paid for TWICE.

Right. No one does. Christ paid the whole debt of humanity.

And the Bible does not teach people go to hell for the SINGLE SIN of not "accepting" Christ.

Again, correct.

So your theory cannot stand will harmony of ALL RELATED Scripture.
However, if Christ died for ALL of "His Sheep", elected before the
foundation of the world - then you have harmony of Scripture.

Well, you'd be wrong about that. Please show me ANY verse in John 10 where Jesus said He would die for "HIS SHEEP", as you opine.

Instead, Jesus said several times that He would die for THE SHEEP. And this along with His specific noting that there are HIS sheep, and those NOT of His sheep.

He died for all the sheep, not just His.

The single reason people will be cast into the lake of fire is that they do not possess eternal life.

God IS eternal life. Only those who possess the gift of eternal life are qualified to live with God in eternity. All others can't live with Him, since they don't qualify by possessing eternal life.

 

[timothyu]

Might be simpler to say we got kicked out of the Garden and Jesus provided a way back in.

 

[crossnote]

If Christ dies for all men (everyone ever born - including children
of Satan) then why does anyone PAY for their sins? The Bible does
NOT teach that sins must be paid for TWICE. And the Bible does not
teach people go to hell for the SINGLE SIN of not "accepting" Christ.

So your theory cannot stand will harmony of ALL RELATED Scripture.
However, if Christ died for ALL of "His Sheep", elected before the
foundation of the world - then you have harmony of Scripture.

Jim
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Christ died for all but only those with faith in Him, receive the benefit of His death.

 

[crossnote]

Since no believer will ever experience hell, it is irrelevant as a warning to them.

Warnings are relevant only for those susceptible to the danger.

A believer should be desiring holiness, not just a fire escape.

What kind of a stupid, denigrating, and forum violating snipe is this? What's wrong with you?

I gave you the answer: 'It means a changed heart/desires among other things.'
BTW, when one starts launching personal attacks as you have done in your last two posts, it's a sign that one has run low on substance.

 

[Behold]

What if you were presenting the gospel to an atheist, and the atheist said: "But I don't want to do any works."

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Thats easy....

You would tell them what Paul would tell them..

"Justification by Faith", "without works".

God does not require your works to save you. He has already Accepted Jesus's finished WORK on the Cross, as the "work" that He required ..

"and the WORK of God, is that you Believe on the One whom God sent".

See, anyone who knows anything about Real Christianity, knows that once this Atheist has God inside them, has seen the LIGHT who is Jesus, and is born again......they would know that this person would have a totally different perspective once they were translated from their Darkness to God's Light.

 

[St. Helens]

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