Pandemic started in a lab:

[probinson]

I'd imagine someone interested in looking at the impact of a pandemic for which a vaccine was produced in less than a year wouldn't average data over multiple years.

Or...

It means that the mortality was so much lower in 2019 that even with a larger number in 2020, it averaged out in the long-run.

I also can't help but notice that following the link in this chart doesn't actually lead one to the chart, but instead to a way to get the data. Which means that someone intentionally chose to smooth out the peak in 2020 rather than show it in the chart.

Or...

Maybe you could go get the data and analyze it yourself.

 

[probinson]

As we know (in a previous post I showed the deathrates by vaccine status), unvaccinated people have around 10x more likelihood of death by Covid than people that are fully vaccinated.

Just because you keep repeating this does not make it true. And therefore, the rest of your post is, as you say, "made up nonsense".

 

[probinson]

It really is odd to combine 2020 with 2019 and do an average and use this to present data in relation to Covid (which started to kill people in Sweden in 2020 and none at all in 2019).

This is ALL DEATHS. While you are, apparently, still focused ONLY on COVID deaths, the question isn't did we save people from dying FROM COVID. The question is, did we save people from dying. PERIOD. I understand why you don't want to look at this data, because it's very damaging to your argument. I mean, Australia experiencing the worst excess death rate in 80 years isn't a good look for all of the crowing about "saving lives". But here we are.

For some reason Sweden had a better than average year in 2019.

Indeed. Considerably better than average. Which at least partially explains why the mortality rate was higher in 2020.

But anyway, this approach to presenting data, isn't an honest one,

Sure it is. The numbers are accurate, whether you like the way they are presented or not. And while you continually to myopically focus on COVID, I'm looking at overall death figures.

isn't a best efforts approach.

Sure it is. I know you don't think so, because it's incredibly damaging to your claim that mitigation measures "saved lives", but it's still accurate nonetheless.

The graph is meant to mislead.

The graph is meant to expose.

Thankfully, most of us are smart enough not to be fooled by it.

 

[probinson]

Lest anyone think I'm "misleading" people with the chart earlier in the thread, I submit this same chart, broken down by year, instead of grouping 2 years together.

If you don't trust me, you can go to this link where you can access the data for yourself and analyze it any which way you'd like.

Mortality rate per 1,000 of the mean population by age and sex. Year 2000 - 2022-Statistikdatabasen

The bottom line is, the "peak" that some people falsely accused me of "hiding" in 2020 is actually LOWER than the mortality in years WHERE THERE WAS NO PANDEMIC. Additionally, even with the "jump" in deaths in 2020, one can easily see that overall mortality in Sweden has been trending DOWNWARD since 2001.

So again, this demonstrates quite clearly that Sweden's relaxed approach to COVID mitigation has paid off. While other countries that locked down hard are seeing spikes in mortality not seen in half a century or more, Sweden stayed pretty consistent, and in fact has had mortality rates in line with historical levels all throughout the pandemic.

 

[stevil]

This is ALL DEATHS. While you are, apparently, still focused ONLY on COVID deaths, the question isn't did we save people from dying FROM COVID. The question is, did we save people from dying. PERIOD. I understand why you don't want to look at this data, because it's very damaging to your argument.

Perhaps you haven't been reading my posts over the past few days?????
I showed the yearly total deaths AND the yearly total Covid deaths, which showed a very strong correlation between Covid deaths and excess deaths for each year. Prior to 2020 in Sweden their usual death tally was around the 90k mark. In 2019 they had a comparatively quiet year at 88k deaths, but then in 2020 they had a very bad year at 98k deaths. Which was around 8k deaths more than usual. That year they had 9.7k Covid deaths, which more than accounts for the entire excess deaths.

Please pay attention rather than spouting the nonsense you are saying above.

I mean, Australia experiencing the worst excess death rate in 80 years isn't a good look for all of the crowing about "saving lives". But here we are.

You obviously didn't read my posts. Why do I go to the trouble of hand feeding you the data?
In Aussie, just like in NZ, just like in Norway, just like in Denmark, just like in Finland 2022 had much more Covid deaths in 2022 than in 2020 or 2021. This is because these countries opened up in 2022 after their citizenry got vaccinated and after Omicron came. In all these countries the excess death tally is accounted for in the Covid death tally. Please go back and refer to the data, rather than spreading a debunked narrative.

Sure it is. The numbers are accurate, whether you like the way they are presented or not. And while you continually to myopically focus on COVID, I'm looking at overall death figures.

This is not true. I showed a side by side comparrison for each country of total death count and of total covid death count.
For each country the total Covid death count is very close to the total excess deaths.

Sure it is. I know you don't think so, because it's incredibly damaging to your claim that mitigation measures "saved lives", but it's still accurate nonetheless.

You have not shown any chart that shows suicides or domestic assault rising, and you have not shown any correlation between these type of deaths and the excess death numbers.

You haven't even bothered to read the posts where I have shown that the excess deaths almost exactly match the covid deaths for each of these countries over the last 3 years.

 

[stevil]

Just because you keep repeating this does not make it true. And therefore, the rest of your post is, as you say, "made up nonsense".

And so you didn't bother to follow the links and go to the articles with all the data? Nice.

 

[stevil]

Now before we start talking about base-rate fallacies, I understand that. But there are an awful lot of vaccinated people getting sick, being hospitalized and dying,

Yes, of course there are.
Just like there are alot of people wearing seatbelts dying in car accidents.
The vaccine reduces the chances of a person dying of covid, but doesn't guarantee that they won't die.

 

[stevil]

Hmm. No mention of the drop in 2019? You're just gonna gloss right over the fact that Sweden's mortality rate was~4K lower than normal in 2019, and therefore they were ripe for higher mortality in 2020?

What are you on about????

Never mind that they had 9.7k deaths from covid in 2020 and around 8k more deaths than usual in 2020.
You think because they had 4k deaths less than usual in 2019 you think those people held on to die in 2020, but even if that was true, what about the other 4k as 2020 had 8k excess deaths? and strangly you completly ignore the Covid death tally?????????

You said (at least I think it was you) that if it weren't for lockdowns and masking and school closings and all of the draconian mitigation measures that were implemented pretty much everywhere but Sweden that there would have been much worse mortality. But we can see that's not true at all when we look at Sweden, who implemented none of those measures.

Oh boy.
Sweden had 8K excess deaths in 2020 (9.7k covid deaths), when all the other countries had much lower excess deaths because they bothered to protect their citizenry in order to get them vaccinated.

Anyway, I don't need to prove anything to you. You brought up an interesting claim, I looked into it and found it to be utterly debunked.
You obviously have no interest in listening to anything I say.
I would however advise you to go back and look at the data. Don't look at charts which merge multiple years together. Look at the yearly death tally and the yearly covid death tally for each country. The correlation is incredibly similar.

If you really think lock downs caused deaths, then it would help your argument if you could surmise what types of deaths would be caused by lockdowns and then find data that somehow shows a correlation in the rise in those deaths with the rise in excess deaths.
Present that, and perhaps we have something more to talk about.

 

[stevil]

Are you serious right now? The reference is all over the last few pages of this thread. Fauci stood up at a presidential briefing just a day after Collins had emailed and asked if there was anything more they could do to put down the lab-leak theory and said there was a "new study" that had just come out, as if he was just hearing about it.

Or perhaps he was saying it was new, because it was newly released to the public?

 

[probinson]

Perhaps you haven't been reading my posts over the past few days?????

I have. I've found them rather... interesting.

Prior to 2020 in Sweden their usual death tally was around the 90k mark. In 2019 they had a comparatively quiet year at 88k deaths, but then in 2020 they had a very bad year at 98k deaths. Which was around 8k deaths more than usual. That year they had 9.7k Covid deaths, which more than accounts for the entire excess deaths.

Why are you using raw numbers instead of adjusting for population?

Here is the chart again. This is directly from Sweden's data. Note that deaths are per 1,000.

2020 was not a "very bad year" when you look at the data. Deaths per 1,000 over the last 23 years were as follows:

Every year from 2000 through 2012 had HIGHER mortality than 2020. And in 2020, they had 9.48 deaths per thousand as opposed to 8.64 deaths per thousand in 2019, that you said was a "comparatively quiet" year. It's interesting that you think a 0.84 per 1,000 difference in mortality is the difference between "comparatively quiet" and "very bad".

C'mon man. You're embarrassing yourself. Anyone looking at that data (which is for ALL ages, and is even more pronounced when examined at various age levels) can see that there was not an inordinately large number of deaths in Sweden in 2020.

Please pay attention rather than spouting the nonsense you are saying above.

You really should invest in a mirror.

You obviously didn't read my posts. Why do I go to the trouble of hand feeding you the data?

I've read them. They are, as you say, "nonsense".

In Aussie, just like in NZ, just like in Norway, just like in Denmark, just like in Finland 2022 had much more Covid deaths in 2022 than in 2020 or 2021. This is because these countries opened up in 2022 after their citizenry got vaccinated and after Omicron came. In all these countries the excess death tally is accounted for in the Covid death tally. Please go back and refer to the data, rather than spreading a debunked narrative.

Horse pucky. Australia is experiencing the worst excess death numbers in 80 YEARS, and it is not all attributable to COVID.

https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/report-shows-australias-excess-mortality-rate-has-risen-to-levels-not-seen-since-world-war-ii/news-story/2f86a5483b9ae8363fc80082ae95ba3d

You haven't even bothered to read the posts where I have shown that the excess deaths almost exactly match the covid deaths for each of these countries over the last 3 years.

Sure I have. You're posting persistent misinformation, which is why I keep responding to point it out.

 

[probinson]

And so you didn't bother to follow the links and go to the articles with all the data? Nice.

You keep repeating the demonstrably false claim that people who were not vaccinated from COVID were 10x more likely to die than those who were not. As long as you keep referencing this irredeemably flawed data point, I'm not interested in the other data manipulation games you're trying to play,.

 

[probinson]

What are you on about????

Never mind that they had 9.7k deaths from covid in 2020 and around 8k more deaths than usual in 2020.
You think because they had 4k deaths less than usual in 2019 you think those people held on to die in 2020, but even if that was true, what about the other 4k as 2020 had 8k excess deaths? and strangly you completly ignore the Covid death tally?????????

Do you know how to adjust for population? Do you even know what that means? It doesn't seem so...

Oh boy.
Sweden had 8K excess deaths in 2020 (9.7k covid deaths), when all the other countries had much lower excess deaths because they bothered to protect their citizenry in order to get them vaccinated.

Nonsense. Sweden is now experiencing the lowest excess mortality in Europe. They are faring far better than many places that implemented all of the untested, foolish mitigation measures you laud. The UK has the worst excess mortality in 50 years. Australia hasn't seen excess deaths at this level since WWII.

Anyway, I don't need to prove anything to you.

You're not proving anything to anybody.

You brought up an interesting claim, I looked into it and found it to be utterly debunked.

If you say so. Meanwhile, people in countries that locked down hard are experiencing alarmingly high excess mortality rates, your "debunking" notwithstanding.

You obviously have no interest in listening to anything I say.

Ditto.

I would however advise you to go back and look at the data.

Ditto.

Don't look at charts which merge multiple years together.

I'm not. I made my own chart that has every mortality rate per 1,000 since 2001. Here it is for the third time.

Look at the yearly death tally and the yearly covid death tally for each country. The correlation is incredibly similar.

It is not.

If you really think lock downs caused deaths, then it would help your argument if you could surmise what types of deaths would be caused by lockdowns and then find data that somehow shows a correlation in the rise in those deaths with the rise in excess deaths.
Present that, and perhaps we have something more to talk about.

You continue to ignore the fact that even at the peak of the pandemic in Sweden when COVID deaths were quite high, the overall mortality rate WAS NOT unusually high. How can that be? If all other things are equal, and if it is lockdowns and masking and other untested, illogical mitigation measures that made the difference, wouldn't Sweden's mortality rate be through the roof in 2020? But it's not. In fact, it was LOWER than every year in the 13-year span between 2000 and 2012. When you look at the last 20+ years of data, you see nothing out of the ordinary for Sweden's overall mortality during the pandemic.

 

[probinson]

Or perhaps he was saying it was new, because it was newly released to the public?

You can make all the excuses you like, but this is what Fauci said:

DR. FAUCI: There was a study recently that we can make available to you, where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences there and the sequences in bats as they evolve. And the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human.​

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So, I mean, the paper will be available — I don’t have the authors right now, but we can make that available to you.​

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Remarks by President Trump, Vice President Pence, and Members of the Coronavirus Task Force in Press Briefing | April 17, 2020 – The White House

trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov

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"I don't have the authors right now". Huh. Interesting, since Fauci is the one that prompted Dr. Andersen and his colleagues to write this paper. You mean to tell me that after 2 months of back and forth emails and discussions, Fauci had no idea who the authors were? And it's just a nifty coincidence that Fauci said this at a presidential briefing just ONE DAY after being by Francis Collins in an email if he could do more to "squash" the lab-leak theory? Clearly Fauci was trying to make it sound like this was a new paper that he'd just heard about to corroborate what he was saying, despite the fact he "prompted" the writing of the paper in the first place.

 

[stevil]

"I don't have the authors right now". Huh. Interesting, since Fauci is the one that prompted Dr. Andersen and his colleagues to write this paper. You mean to tell me that after 2 months of back and forth emails and discussions, Fauci had no idea who the authors were? And it's just a nifty coincidence that Fauci said this at a presidential briefing just ONE DAY after being by Francis Collins in an email if he could do more to "squash" the lab-leak theory? Clearly Fauci was trying to make it sound like this was a new paper that he'd just heard about to corroborate what he was saying, despite the fact he "prompted" the writing of the paper in the first place.

Oh boy. First you make out Fauci was pretending not to know anything about the report but now you say him not knowing off the top of his head who all the authors were, means that he is lying because............ um........... um........... it is somehow bad for him if he admits to knowing who all the authors are???????????

I imagine as being the authority in USA on infectious diseases, that part of his job is reviewing and reading various documents. Does he have to remember who all the authors are of all the documents he reviews?

 

[stevil]

Do you know how to adjust for population? Do you even know what that means? It doesn't seem so...

Do you think the population numbers change drastically each year????

Nonsense. Sweden is now experiencing the lowest excess mortality in Europe. They are faring far better than many places that implemented all of the untested, foolish mitigation measures you laud. The UK has the worst excess mortality in 50 years. Australia hasn't seen excess deaths at this level since WWII.

Sweden had massive deaths in 2020 because they let the disease in, they didn't care about their population, they had no interest in protecting lives, especially of their elderly and vulnerable. They just let them die.
Those that are now dead, they are no longer vulnerable to death.

In most other countries, their Covid deaths were low in 2020 because they took measures to reduce and/or stop the spread of the disease. Doing this, they saved lives. By 2022, they had most of their population vaccinated and so they opened up society and their borders. The Covid deaths started to happen, but at a much lower rate than would have been the case if the disease spread when people weren't vaccinated.

The hypothesis of people dying due to lockdowns is a poor hypothesis because you aren't suggesting the method of death and you aren't bothering to show any data and statistics to show that those death types have gone up during lock downs.
But anyway, that hypothesis is easily debunked by looking at the yearly death tally of countries and comparing that to the yearly death tally by covid and seeing that their is a direct correlation to the uptick in total deaths. It is the same pattern in most countries, except for Sweden which did horribly in 2020 and just let massive amounts of their people die.
Their total covid deaths is horrendous, way above their immediate neighbors. Many of their old and vulnerable are now dead.
Their approach was disastrous and failed their citizens.

 

[probinson]

Oh boy. First you make out Fauci was pretending not to know anything about the report but now you say him not knowing off the top of his head who all the authors were, means that he is lying because............ um........... um........... it is somehow bad for him if he admits to knowing who all the authors are???????????

I imagine as being the authority in USA on infectious diseases, that part of his job is reviewing and reading various documents. Does he have to remember who all the authors are of all the documents he reviews?

Fauci convened an URGENT call with these scientists, compelled them to write a paper about it, provided "advice and leadership" to them, spoke to them continuously for weeks on end via phone and email, and yet he couldn't recall that Dr. Kristian Anderson was the lead author?

I guess that stands to reason. "I don't recall" is Fauci's famous refrain. Perhaps he is suffering from some kind of severe memory disorder.

 

[probinson]

Do you think the population numbers change drastically each year????

Enough that it's important to affect the mortality rate.

Sweden had massive deaths in 2020 because they let the disease in, they didn't care about their population, they had no interest in protecting lives, especially of their elderly and vulnerable. They just let them die.

What an awful take. I find it particularly interesting that you use the phraseology, "they let the disease in", as if lockdowns somehow magically kept the disease at bay. The propaganda is strong with this one!

Those that are now dead, they are no longer vulnerable to death.

That's true. Unlike all of the people that are now dying in Australia. I guess by your logic, they don't care about their population either. They have no interest in even acknowledging that many more people are dying now than at the peak of the pandemic.

In most other countries, their Covid deaths were low in 2020 because they took measures to reduce and/or stop the spread of the disease. Doing this, they saved lives.

If someone survives 2020 due to these "measures" but dies in 2021, how exactly did they "save lives"?

By 2022, they had most of their population vaccinated and so they opened up society and their borders. The Covid deaths started to happen, but at a much lower rate than would have been the case if the disease spread when people weren't vaccinated.

But deaths in general climbed to alarmingly high levels. In Australia, levels not seen since WWII!

The hypothesis of people dying due to lockdowns is a poor hypothesis because you aren't suggesting the method of death and you aren't bothering to show any data and statistics to show that those death types have gone up during lock downs.

The "method of death" is irrelevant. The bottom line is, the current mortality rate in Australia is FAR, FAR higher than in Sweden.

But anyway, that hypothesis is easily debunked by looking at the yearly death tally of countries and comparing that to the yearly death tally by covid and seeing that their is a direct correlation to the uptick in total deaths. It is the same pattern in most countries, except for Sweden which did horribly in 2020 and just let massive amounts of their people die.

Complete nonsense.

Their total covid deaths is horrendous, way above their immediate neighbors. Many of their old and vulnerable are now dead.
Their approach was disastrous and failed their citizens.

Why are you myopically focused on COVID deaths? You do know that Sweden is performing better in all-cause mortality than just about everyone of their immediate neighbors, right? What is (or should be) important to public health is actually "saving lives", and not in the propaganda-like way you're implying. Did you know there are about a million ways to die? If we "save" someone from COVID but they die from some other cause, you haven't "saved lives", you've simply traded them to other causes.

That is why it's important to look at all-cause mortality figures, and is why I suspect that you've not yet addressed this chart, which I will now post for the 4th time.

This is directly from Sweden's own mortality data. As you can see, even through the peak of COVID, the mortality rate of Sweden has been on a downward trend since 2001, and the pandemic did not change that. Aside from a small uptick in 2020 that is actually lower than the years spanning 2001-2013, the all-cause mortality numbers from Sweden are pretty level.

You tried to say this data was invalid when I first posted it because two years were grouped together. So I went and made my own chart with each year shown separately. And now that I've posted this same data four times, you still have yet to address why if Sweden "had no interest in protecting lives" that their all-cause mortality numbers were largely unaffected by the pandemic.

 

[stevil]

What an awful take. I find it particularly interesting that you use the phraseology, "they let the disease in", as if lockdowns somehow magically kept the disease at bay. The propaganda is strong with this one!

In NZ, we eliminated the disease entirely. It landed on our shores, some people got infected, some even died, but then, with all our efforts of lockdowns, social distancing and masks, we were able to eliminate it. Then we removed lock downs, we didn't need to wear masks, we even had many sporting events with thousands of people in attendance at the stadiums.

If you look at Sweden's neighbors, they were successful too.
While Sweden had 9,706 people die of Covid in 2020, Norway had 433, Denmark 1,312, Finland 587 and NZ 30

NZ, Aus, Norway, Denmark, Finland all took positive action to protect themselves and especially their elderly and vulnerable, whilst Sweden just didn't give a care. The efforts of NZ, Aus, Norway, Denmark and Finland worked and clearly is shown in the data.

There is no magic with the concept of separating people in order to prevent a communicable disease spreading before people have had the chance to get vaccinated.

That's true. Unlike all of the people that are now dying in Australia. I guess by your logic, they don't care about their population either. They have no interest in even acknowledging that many more people are dying now than at the peak of the pandemic.

Australia did a fantastic job in protecting their people. They got them all vaccinated (those that want the vaccine) before opening up.
A vaccinated population will have almost 10x less death from the disease than an unvaccinated population.

If someone survives 2020 due to these "measures" but dies in 2021, how exactly did they "save lives"?

Two ways:
That person got to live a year longer.
Vaccinated people are much less likely to die of Covid than unvaccinated people.

But deaths in general climbed to alarmingly high levels. In Australia, levels not seen since WWII!

There is a pandemic. Countries cannot shuddown and lock down forever. The lockdowns were meant to buy time until the population got vaccinated.

The "method of death" is irrelevant. The bottom line is, the current mortality rate in Australia is FAR, FAR higher than in Sweden.

The method of death is not irrelevant because we are talking about Covid death rates vs deaths which are somehow postulated to be related to lockdowns.

The excess deaths in each country is significantly related to the Covid deaths being experienced.

Why are you myopically focused on COVID deaths? You do know that Sweden is performing better in all-cause mortality than just about everyone of their immediate neighbors, right?

This is utter nonsense.
Over the period of the pandemic, 2020 till now and counting, Sweden has had much more excess deaths than most developed nations.
They have failed their people horribly. Sweden is a cautionary tale on how the do nothing approach is disastrous in a global pandemic.
Maybe they think having better financial results is worth 10,000 lives. Money vs lives. It just depends what you value more.

This is directly from Sweden's own mortality data. As you can see, even through the peak of COVID, the mortality rate of Sweden has been on a downward trend since 2001, and the pandemic did not change that. Aside from a small uptick in 2020 that is actually lower than the years spanning 2001-2013, the all-cause mortality numbers from Sweden are pretty level.

Perhaps Sweden have resolved some issues which were causing deaths in the past, but during the pandemic they have failed their people.

You tried to say this data was invalid when I first posted it because two years were grouped together. So I went and made my own chart with each year shown separately. And now that I've posted this same data four times, you still have yet to address why if Sweden "had no interest in protecting lives" that their all-cause mortality numbers were largely unaffected by the pandemic.

Your logic is really weird. You've shown a long term trend or reduction in total death numbers. So obviously something is improving in Sweden over the long term, from well before the pandemic.
But the pandemic itself is a big failure point for Sweden. If they had done measures that most reasonable countries did, their overall deaths would have looked much better. They would have avoided that massive death tally in in 2020 and over the entire pandemic to date, they would have saved an extra 10,000 lives.

 

[stevil]

Fauci convened an URGENT call with these scientists, compelled them to write a paper about it, provided "advice and leadership" to them, spoke to them continuously for weeks on end via phone and email, and yet he couldn't recall that Dr. Kristian Anderson was the lead author?

I guess that stands to reason. "I don't recall" is Fauci's famous refrain. Perhaps he is suffering from some kind of severe memory disorder.

Did they ask him who was the lead author or were they wanting to know all the authors.

It is appropriate for someone who wants to be correct to say, I will get back to you, rather than trying to recall on the spot something that they aren't 100% sure of.

 

[probinson]

In NZ, we eliminated the disease entirely.

Fact check: FALSE.

Pretty sure that 2.2 million cases of COVID is not by any definition, "eliminat[ing] the disease entirely". No, that means ~50% of people in New Zealand have had COVID already, and by the looks of the chart, people are still getting COVID and will continue to get COVID.

If you look at Sweden's neighbors, they were successful too.
While Sweden had 9,706 people die of Covid in 2020, Norway had 433, Denmark 1,312, Finland 587 and NZ 30

NZ, Aus, Norway, Denmark, Finland all took positive action to protect themselves and especially their elderly and vulnerable, whilst Sweden just didn't give a care. The efforts of NZ, Aus, Norway, Denmark and Finland worked and clearly is shown in the data.

No, it really isn't. Look at the crude death rate for each of those countries. Sweden sees a "spike" in crude death rate from 0.87% to 0.95% from 2019-2020, but Sweden also had a lower mortality in 2019 than normal, so it would stand to reason that at least some of that increase was due to the lower mortality in the prior year. Also, you can see from the chart that while Sweden's mortality rate decreased from 2020 to 2021, all of the other countries you mentioned saw an increase.

Australia did a fantastic job in protecting their people. They got them all vaccinated (those that want the vaccine) before opening up.

Meanwhile, Australia is currently experiencing the worst excess mortality in 80 years. What a fantastic job they've done!

A vaccinated population will have almost 10x less death from the disease than an unvaccinated population.

False.

The method of death is not irrelevant because we are talking about Covid death rates vs deaths which are somehow postulated to be related to lockdowns.

Yes it is. You are myopically focused on COVID deaths because when you look at all-cause mortality, you just don't see the vast differences you are claiming.

The excess deaths in each country is significantly related to the Covid deaths being experienced.

False.

Over the period of the pandemic, 2020 till now and counting, Sweden has had much more excess deaths than most developed nations.

False. Sweden has THE LOWEST cumulative excess mortality in Europe from 2020-2022.

They have failed their people horribly. Sweden is a cautionary tale on how the do nothing approach is disastrous in a global pandemic.

The data I've presented shows what a nonsensical statement this is.

But the pandemic itself is a big failure point for Sweden. If they had done measures that most reasonable countries did,

No. Sweden was essentially the ONLY country that followed established pandemic preparedness plans. The rest of the world decided to enact foolish, untested mitigation measures that carried with them massive collateral damage.

their overall deaths would have looked much better. They would have avoided that massive death tally in in 2020 and over the entire pandemic to date, they would have saved an extra 10,000 lives.

Anyone can make numbers up out of thin air. But it's not very compelling.