Oral sex in the marragie

[blitzn]

I was marked as a nonchristian as well for some reason. Guess it's cause I said something bout the catholic doctorins. Funny how even this bord can change the meaning of the word christian like the rest of the world. I just want to say for the record:

My God is NOT a universal god of all doctorins and all religions. His word is truth even if it may offend some people. I was already told today (and it seems as though the rest of the world is buying the lie) that my God is the same as any other, and that I just believe a diffrent way. A kinda all roads lead to heaven thing. But Jesus said NO MAN CAN COME TO THE FATHER EXCEPT BY HIM! I worry when people define "christian" as those who will not stand for pure holy doctorin and truth and teach it.

Sry for the rant but it had to be said.

Now back to the topic.
I wonder if maybe someone could show me where sodomy is spoken of in the bible? I know it speaks against beastality (which is half the definition of sodomy). But I wonder where the word itself is used.

I personaly see nothing wrong with it. But if your wife does I ask you to respect that because of her "lack of faith" as others said.

As for the seed spilling on the ground, that was because they had a job to do and refused to do it. Else every time a man was unable to produce a child with the woman he would be in violation. I do not see how sex is only for procreation as others stated. Paul said not to defraud each other lest the devil temp you for inconsistancy. Sounds like more than just procreation to me. As far as lusting and fornication...I fail to see how you can comit either with your WIFE. How can you lust for your wife? She is part of you. You are one flesh. Thus it is not fornication either. Sex in marrage is not to be looked down upon. God himself created it to be HOLY. Also if it is only for procreation, then forplay is also sin. And you will never have a healthy relationship because you defraud each other.

If I can see where God condems oral sex I will change my view on that. But I never found it, and as far as I know He said the bed is undifiled in marrage. That goes for "toys" too. Though the limits ARE fornication, and adultery which is what inappropriate content is. These are just my thoughts. But I would not force them on anyone.

Personaly I would do anything to please my wife. I believe pleasure comes from giveing pleasure.

Very well said. - blitzn

 

[TheFirstNoelle]

Hi Lady,

I am assuming you are referencing women giving oral sex. My experience is that women love to receive it (and most men like to give it). Do you think women feel degraded by receiving it? I think it is a great blessing and often the only way some women achieve [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. I would hate to take that great blessing from the Lord away from them.

I think if women were aware that they can stop before the man [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] (does not taste good and that is simple reality - although some women don't seem to mind) then they would be more comfortable. My recent discussion with a woman who like to receive but not give showed a woman who came from a very sexually repressed background (though she was thinking through this part of herself).

The fact is that human genitalia are quite beautiful (look who made them!!) and we should enjoy that beauty visually and with all touch.


In Christ,
Human

I agree, Human. And I'm one of the women who love giving, up to and including [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. I don't find it degrading at all - it is a gift of love. And it's even better if your partner reciprocates!

 

[thekawasakikid]

Wow, this is the umpteenth thread on oral sex on this site! Together with the million posts discussing whether masturbation is ok, I cannot help wondering why some Christians (who are married, hahaha!) are so frigid and unwilling to fully enjoy the gift given them by God!

I mean, come on, if sex could only ever be the missionary position, would it really be that much fun?

The easy answer is if you like it, do it, and if you don't, don't.

Me, I like it, and in fact I dunno which I prefer most: to give or to receive!

 

[10092]

I agree with most others. What a married couple does sexually has to be mutually agreed upon. I don't mean anything goes. I do mean that oral sex has to be agreed upon by both parties.

Besides how can you both enjoy the gift of sex if you both don't enjoy what you are doing. I'm certain that the Bible can be intruputted to mean no oral sex. Yet a lot of contempory Christian leaders agree that it is OK. I'd check out a Christain bookstore for books on under the subject of marriage/sex. Perhaps reading (both of you) can bring understanding to this issue.

 

[TheFirstNoelle]

Put it this way, the Bible condemns Sodomy, the Bible condemns lusting after others in your hearts, ie. inappropriate contentography would fit into that category, the Bible condemns the "spilling of seed," an early method of birth control, that would spilling anywhere where it wasn't meant to be spilled, that would include masturbation, the Bible calls lust one of the seven deadly sins, and yes, lust can enter a marriage bed, so no, in that sense, anything doesn't go.

the Bible condemned the spilling of seed in the *specific* situation of Onan, who was *specifically* commanded to impregnate his brother's wife in order to keep the family line going. He pulled out (he didn't touch), thereby disobeying the command. This does not mean that all birth control or all masturbation is sinful in and of themselves (of course, there are many threads already devoted to these topics).

Incidentally - the 7 deadly sins are not of biblical origin. You won't find them listed as such anywhere in scripture. However, I'm certainly not arguing that lust isn't a sin.

 

[revrobor]

It continue to amaze me, Theresa, that people will attempt to twist Scripture to support their ideas. Onan was punished for disobedience NOT for "spilling of seed". The Bible doesn't address masturbation. Neither does the Bible address oral sex, or any other kind of sex, between a husband and a wife. Sodomy is prohibited in a homosexual context. You are entitled to your own opinions but don't try to pass them off as some sort of Scriptural truth.

 

[ceres]

Hey, revobor, I agree fully with your idea, but think the impolite way you chose to express it in was not "cool." I think she is Catholic and has probably been taught this her whole life. Yes... Onan was on specific situation and does not therefore constitute as a scriptural concept.

 

[revrobor]

Thanks for the info ceres. Far be it from me to be impolite on purpose. I guess it's just that I have counselled on so many Christian boards that I have grown weary of dealing with people who continue to propogate the great deal of false teachings we find in the Christian community.

So to you, Theresa, if you were offended by my frankness I apologize for that but not for the information in my post.

 

[Living4Him03]

I just have to say that Joyce Meyer is not the most credible source of information! You can read an article on her written by Hank Hannegraf, an evangelical Christian man with a radio show who is credible, on the website equip dot org. I don't have the points to post urls sorry! Christianitytoday.com, there are articles there about what types of sexual activity are ok for married couples

 

[Living4Him03]

Song of Solomon talks about oral sex in the good way (2:3, the woman preforming oral sex on the man, and 4:16 and possibly 8:2 for the man on the woman.)

I can't believe someone is trying to make something a sin that God has not.

Bible scholars insist that Song of Solomon is talking about a man and wife having oral sex and other kinds of sex and enjoying it. It's not wrong or impure in the marriage bed.

Both speak specifically to oral sex in marriage.

Lee

I just laughed at this...those verses don't refer to oral sex. They refer to imagery...a comparison...metaphors that are used to describe how the two lovers feel! I don't think that it can be stretched to say it's talking about oral sex.

 

[HeatherJay]

I just laughed at this...those verses don't refer to oral sex. They refer to imagery...a comparison...metaphors that are used to describe how the two lovers feel! I don't think that it can be stretched to say it's talking about oral sex.

Yes, they're metaphors, but it doesn't really take a great stretch of the imagination to see how some believe they refer to oral sex. There's certainly plenty of talk of tasting and drinking of nectar, and all that crazy talk about pomegranites Many agree with you, that those verses don't refer to oral sex...but just as many believe they do. Don't discount others opinions just because you don't agree

Love, Heather

 

[dd24ck]

Hebrews 13:4
This has nothing to do with oral sex. I believe that if it is natural then you may use it. Your body is natural and you should use it to your pleasure. Sex toys to me is unpure such as using a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] b/c it's like having sex with a tool and not your husband. I hope that this makes sense. Just don't do something that you are uncomfortable with. God Bless Everyone!!!

 

[ceres]

yes I agree with Heather Jay... they do talk a lot about eating the fruit of the other and that sort of thing. how else are they going to eat the other's fruit? can't know for sure, but its certainly not a laughable theory

 

[pmarquette]

A Brethren IN CHRIST Hebrews 13:4
Excuse me ? what does the marriage bed and harlot mongers have to do with oral sex ?

 

[pmarquette]

There is a matter of hygene [ some areas of our bodies are notorious for bacteria , yeast & should be thoroughly cleansed ; other areas , even if cleansed are impossible to " sanitize " , and should be avoided.

Biblically there is a provision against blood , a provision to not substitue sex for procreation with self stimulation , a provision to not to substitute self stimulation for sex with spouse , a provision not to with hold sex from spouse , that perhaps are of greater urgency ....

If you are convicted of a particular form of sex, abstain from it ...

 

[revrobor]

There is a matter of hygene [ some areas of our bodies are notorious for bacteria , yeast & should be thoroughly cleansed ; other areas , even if cleansed are impossible to " sanitize " , and should be avoided.

Biblically there is a provision against blood , a provision to not substitue sex for procreation with self stimulation , a provision to not to substitute self stimulation for sex with spouse , a provision not to with hold sex from spouse , that perhaps are of greater urgency ....

If you are convicted of a particular form of sex, abstain from it ...

You talk about "..provisions..." for this that and the other thing. How about some Scripture to back up your claims?

 

[Squall2811]

Hi guys I think the answer was given to us a couple of

posts ago where a member alluded to the verse in

Hebrews of the marriage be being undefiled. That is

the answer to the oral sex question. If both the

husband and wife consent to do it and it doesn't

bother them then its okay. Now if one of them

doesn't want to do it then the husband or the wife

should honor their spouses wishes and not force

them. Masturbation does not fall into this category

because its basically for self gratification and not

that of your wife or husband. When you touch

you are sending a message to your spouse that "hey

I don't need you to satisfy my sexual needs, you're

not that important" That in itself can and is

detrimental to their feelings.

 

[TheFirstNoelle]

Hi guys I think the answer was given to us a couple of

posts ago where a member alluded to the verse in

Hebrews of the marriage be being undefiled. That is

the answer to the oral sex question. If both the

husband and wife consent to do it and it doesn't

bother them then its okay. Now if one of them

doesn't want to do it then the husband or the wife

should honor their spouses wishes and not force

them. Masturbation does not fall into this category

because its basically for self gratification and not

that of your wife or husband. When you touch

you are sending a message to your spouse that "hey

I don't need you to satisfy my sexual needs, you're

not that important" That in itself can and is

detrimental to their feelings.

Not necessarily. I know couples who have incorporated it into their sex lives, and really enjoy it. Also, if one spouse has a much lower sex drive than the other, masturbation can alleviate possible tension there.

 

[HeatherJay]

Hi guys I think the answer was given to us a couple of

posts ago where a member alluded to the verse in

Hebrews of the marriage be being undefiled. That is

the answer to the oral sex question. If both the

husband and wife consent to do it and it doesn't

bother them then its okay. Now if one of them

doesn't want to do it then the husband or the wife

should honor their spouses wishes and not force

them. Masturbation does not fall into this category

because its basically for self gratification and not

that of your wife or husband. When you touch

you are sending a message to your spouse that "hey

I don't need you to satisfy my sexual needs, you're

not that important" That in itself can and is

detrimental to their feelings.

I agree with you, however there are some who interpret that verse in Hebrews differently. They interpret it to mean that the marriage bed IS TO BE undefiled...which could be a warning that we should strive to keep our marriage beds pure and free from sexual immorality. As opposed to the other possible interpretation that anything sexual within the bonds of marriage is sacred (as long as it's not strictly prohibited such as inappropriate contentography, etc.). As I said, I agree with you on the meaning...but it's not as cut and dry as you make it sound.

Love, Heather

 

[Mom4Christ]

Oral sex is a part of my sex life with my husband. We both love to give and receive. It's a beautiful way to give each other pleasure. I don't think it is a sin or even degrading. But is should take place only between a husband and wife.