Only way?

[miknik5]

I misunderstood the question. The spirit of Jesus was in all the prophets who prophesied about him.

And whose SPIRIT was in JESUS pre crucified body?

Was Jesus' spirit different and separate from THE FATHER's

And where did YHE SPIRIT go?

And whose SPIRIT raised JESUS' post crucified body ?

And how many HOLY SPIRITS are
There in Heaven now since Jesus lives

 

[Albion]

Here God promises that a son will come from his body who will be Abraham's heir (heir of the promises - land of Canaan included) and will multiply to become an innumerable people.

Yes, that's a promise. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus. It doesn't even refer to any parallels.

This son, ultimately, is Jesus Christ.

NO. He isn't. You might as well say he's ultimately Warren Beatty or Napoleon Bonaparte.

 

[Tree of Life]

Yes, that's a promise. However, it has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus. It doesn't even refer to any parallels.

This promise has nothing to do with Jesus? Then what does Paul mean when he says that all of the promises of God find their fulfillment in Christ? (2 Corinthians 1:20)

NO. He isn't. You might as well say he's ultimately Warren Beatty or Napoleon Bonaparte.

Yes he is.

 

[Tree of Life]

Anyway, @Albion are you able to answer my question?

 

[miknik5]

Here's one:

15 After these things the word of the Lord came to Abram in a vision: “Fear not, Abram, I am your shield; your reward shall be very great.” 2 But Abram said, “O Lord God, what will you give me, for I continue childless, and the heir of my house is Eliezer of Damascus?” 3 And Abram said, “Behold, you have given me no offspring, and a member of my household will be my heir.” 4 And behold, the word of the Lord came to him: “This man shall not be your heir; your very own son shall be your heir.” 5 And he brought him outside and said, “Look toward heaven, and number the stars, if you are able to number them.” Then he said to him, “So shall your offspring be.” 6 And he believed the Lord, and he counted it to him as righteousness.

The Holy Bible: English Standard Version. (2001). (Ge 15:1–6). Wheaton: Standard Bible Society.

Here God promises that a son will come from his body who will be Abraham's heir (heir of the promises - land of Canaan included) and will multiply to become an innumerable people.

This son, ultimately, is Jesus Christ. As Abraham "believed God" here he believed in Jesus Christ.



Yes he is. Isaac prefigured Jesus as being the miracle son who must be sacrificed.

Let me ask you a question. If Abraham didn't believe in Christ, how can he be said to be saved?

All these prefigured were shadows pointing man to the TRUTH and REALITY found in CHRIST JESUS THE SON OF GOD ALONE

 

[miknik5]

tree of life said:

Yes he is. [/QUOTE]
No Isaac is not the "PROMISED son" whom GOD was pointing to

And even David's son is not THE SON who will build a house for GOD

 

[miknik5]

And neither is "Zerubabbel"

 

[miknik5]

And further, Abraham prophecied that GOD WOULD PROVIDE THE SACRIFICE

HE DID
And it isn't Isaac's blood that makes man clean before GOD

It's CHRIST's...THE SON OF GOD WHO CAME FORTH FROM THE FATHER AND INTO THE WORLD

 

[Tree of Life]

No Isaac is not the "PROMISED son" whom GOD was pointing to

And even David's son is not THE SON who will build a house for GOD

Indeed, the true son of David who will build the temple is Jesus Christ. Likewise the true son of David who will die because of David's sin with Bathsheba is Jesus Christ.

 

[miknik5]

Do you agree that every high priest before GOD had to have the RIGHT VESTMENTS before GOD?

Could they just. ..enter in.....as they chose ?

 

[Tree of Life]

Do you agree that every high priest before GOD had to have the RIGHT VESTMENTS before GOD?

Sure.

 

[Albion]

This promise has nothing to do with Jesus?

That's right.

Then what does Paul mean when he says that all of the promises of God find their fulfillment in Christ? (2 Corinthians 1:20)

Here's that verse:

For all the promises of God in him are yea...

This clearly does not teach or mean that every promise made by God to anyone refers to Jesus. Even if, for some reason, this one did...Abraham couldn't have Faith in Jesus merely by trusting God.

 

[miknik5]

Sure.

Do you have the RIGHT GARMENT

 

[Tree of Life]

That's right.

Well I disagree. I think that every promise in Scripture is connected to Christ.

This clearly does not teach or mean that every promise made by God to anyone refers to Jesus. Even if, for some reason, this one did...Abraham couldn't have Faith in Jesus merely by trusting God.

I disagree. I'm still waiting for your answer to my question. But here's another way to approach this: Jesus is Yahweh. Yahweh is Jesus. So if Abraham believes in Yahweh then he believes in Jesus.

 

[Tree of Life]

Do you have the RIGHT GARMENT

I'm not a high priest. But I am a priest of God in Christ and I am clothed in Christ. So I would say yes.

 

[miknik5]

Since you believe every promise is connected to CHRIST please provide the parallel promise of the GARMENT before GOD

 

[miknik5]

I'm not a high priest. But I am a priest of God in Christ and I am clothed in Christ. So I would say yes.

Do all have this GARMENT?

 

[Tree of Life]

Since you believe every promise is connected to CHRIST please provide the parallel promise of the GARMENT before GOD

I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Tree of Life]

Do all have this GARMENT?

Only those who are in Christ.

 

[Albion]

Well I disagree. I think that every promise in Scripture is connected to Christ.

"Connected to" is not the issue. The claim that it's possible to "have Faith in" a being you have zero knowledge of is still the issue.