One World

[Thomas The Atheist]

Hey guys, just wanted to share some idea of mine with you.

What do you think, about one completely equal world.

I'm talking about NO boundaries, NO countries, and NO religion.
One world, where everybody is free to go where he/she wants to.
Everybody is equal, your race and your origin wont matter.
No religions or anything like that, just perfect peace, love and acceptance.
One language everybody speaks for sure and one type of money.
No more poverty for certain parts of the world. No more hunger.
Less overpopulation in certain areas etc...

A communist, liberal democracy with a president.

How do you guys feel about this?
Share your thoughts, please!

(post a comment, and i'll reply for sure)

 

[drich0150]

Hey guys, just wanted to share some idea of mine with you.

What do you think, about one completely equal world.

I'm talking about NO boundaries, NO countries, and NO religion.
One world, where everybody is free to go where he/she wants to.
Everybody is equal, your race and your origin wont matter.
No religions or anything like that, just perfect peace, love and acceptance.
One language everybody speaks for sure and one type of money.
No more poverty for certain parts of the world. No more hunger.
Less overpopulation in certain areas etc...

A communist, liberal democracy with a president.

How do you guys feel about this?
Share your thoughts, please!

(post a comment, and i'll reply for sure)

If we are talking about these changes in this life i have some questions..

What of those who want to stay with in their own country? With in the boundaries that their hard fought constitution allows?

Or those who enjoy their religion?

Also know "Overpopulation" is not planned it is the result of people "doing" what it is they want to do.. If you take that away, would we be living be freely?

How can it be free if those who want to do these things can not?

In your world what would you do with those people?

 

[Chesterton]

How do you guys feel about this?

Yes, I'm very fond of the idea of heaven.

When people start doin' what they oughta be doin',
Then they won't be booin' no more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8P8e0w5MRU

 

[Thomas The Atheist]

What of those who want to stay with in their own country? With in the boundaries that their hard fought constitution allows? Or those who enjoy their religion?

Yes... this is the major flaw in my "vision". The fact that, due to many years of manking evolvin (not the "evolution theory from germ to life, no)
ideas such as Nationalism, Religions, Boundaries and the forming of countries, my idea has become virtually impossible.

It is impossible, I know.
Nobody will give in. Everybody loves their country, everybody's a nationalist. People fought for their freedom and country, they made it what it is. You simply can't just tell a population to give up their identity, country and origin, because these days absolutely no one would do so.
Same goes for Religions. If someone would tell you to give up your religion, would you do so? Out of all these millions of Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists etc... none would ever just stop believing in the fact that their God is real.

But still, it's my utopia.

Also know "Overpopulation" is not planned it is the result of people "doing" what it is they want to do.. If you take that away, would we be living be freely?

I meant overpopulation in certain areas. What if the poor countries, ruled by dictators and warlords, would no longer be that way? If every country would be as advanced as some of the Western Countries and Nations?
If there would be security, guarantees, an excellent economy, free trade, just Freedom, there would no longer be the need to escape these areas.

The highly populated regions we know today, would no longer exist. People could go where-ever they'd want to, start a new life somewhere else. No restrictions, and the people of this earth would automatically spread out.

How can it be free if those who want to do these things can not?

Can not? Everybody will be able to do so Part communist, part democracy, and part capitalist. People can make money, and by doing so they will (one way or another) take care of others, just as others take care of them. Everybody will be able to get a job. Life standards will increase greatly.

In your world what would you do with those people?

In my world, these people wouldn't exist.

 

[Hentenza]

Hey guys, just wanted to share some idea of mine with you.

What do you think, about one completely equal world.

I'm talking about NO boundaries, NO countries, and NO religion.
One world, where everybody is free to go where he/she wants to.
Everybody is equal, your race and your origin wont matter.
No religions or anything like that, just perfect peace, love and acceptance.
One language everybody speaks for sure and one type of money.
No more poverty for certain parts of the world. No more hunger.
Less overpopulation in certain areas etc...

A communist, liberal democracy with a president.

How do you guys feel about this?
Share your thoughts, please!

(post a comment, and i'll reply for sure)

A communist, liberal democracy is an oxymoron.

 

[Thomas The Atheist]

A communist, liberal democracy is an oxymoron.

Yeah, I know

but what I meant was a policy that's part communist (the bonding, taking care of one another and looking after the world part of it), liberal as in lot's of free will, speech and free trade, and a democracy: well, that sorta speaks for itself, doesn't it?

 

[Thomas The Atheist]

Yes, I'm very fond of the idea of heaven.

When people start doin' what they oughta be doin',
Then they won't be booin' no more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8P8e0w5MRU

Aha, you see we've come across the first of many problems...

You obviously see this heaven as a place where God reigns, and where everything is "perfect", so to speak.

In my perfect world, there is no religion. Would you still be fond of this idea, even though you know there is no room for God?

The thing is, since you are a believer, there pretty much isn't something I can say or do that will get you to become an atheist. Whatever we might do, you would still feel this connection with God, you would (secretly) believe in him. You've had faith in him all your life, and there is NO WAY AT ALL, that you can stop believing in him, on my command.
And, on the other hand, there isn't anything you can say or do to make believe in God. The only thing that would make me believe, is seeing God coming down to earth himself. In "person". (and no, the bible doesn't count )

Same goes for any other religion or nation. No one will want / be capable of abandoning his beliefs just like that.
And that is, unfortenately, why my Perfect World will never be.

 

[Hentenza]

Yeah, I know

but what I meant was a policy that's part communist (the bonding, taking care of one another and looking after the world part of it), liberal as in lot's of free will, speech and free trade, and a democracy: well, that sorta speaks for itself, doesn't it?

LOL!!! Yeah, I kind of agree with you there but I do like my religion.

 

[Thomas The Atheist]

LOL!!! Yeah, I kind of agree with you there but I do like my religion.

I totally understand you on that

If someone would tell / make me believe, I wouldn't (really) buy it either.
I'm far too happy with being an atheist, you know

But just imagine, how amazing our world would be if it were this way.
If, many many years ago, people didn't come up with all of these ideas such as religion, nationalism etc, but started following my plan.

Imagine you had never learned of God, you would have no idea what you would be missing...

Wouldn't that world just be amazing?

 

[Hentenza]

I totally understand you on that

If someone would tell / make me believe, I wouldn't (really) buy it either.
I'm far too happy with being an atheist, you know

But just imagine, how amazing our world would be if it were this way.
If, many many years ago, people didn't come up with all of these ideas such as religion, nationalism etc, but started following my plan.

Imagine you had never learned of God, you would have no idea what you would be missing...

Wouldn't that world just be amazing?

Honestly no. God does exist.

 

[Willtor]

Hey guys, just wanted to share some idea of mine with you.

What do you think, about one completely equal world.

I'm talking about NO boundaries, NO countries, and NO religion.
One world, where everybody is free to go where he/she wants to.
Everybody is equal, your race and your origin wont matter.
No religions or anything like that, just perfect peace, love and acceptance.
One language everybody speaks for sure and one type of money.
No more poverty for certain parts of the world. No more hunger.
Less overpopulation in certain areas etc...

A communist, liberal democracy with a president.

How do you guys feel about this?
Share your thoughts, please!

(post a comment, and i'll reply for sure)

A few questions:

1. Are you saying there would still be a government -- just not more than one?

2. Do you not find different languages beautiful and fascinating?

3. Do you believe that everybody should believe the identical thing? Is there nothing more to learn in your utopia?

 

[drich0150]

In my world, these people wouldn't exist.

Kinda like Hitler's Germany, or Stalin's Russia?

The sad reality is these people do indeed exist, and in order for you to have your world your going to have to do something with the people who don't want to be apart of it.

I not saying Hitler or Stalin had the right answers, but at least they recognized the problem.

There can not be "true freedom" in this life. Because all societies are built on the backs of poor or the lower classes. Someone has to pick up the garbage, or manage the waste. Not everyone can be a millionaire.. If we all were, that million dollars would mean nothing. It is the separation of the haves, and the have nots that gives your money value, and consequently it your money that places you (and the rest of us) in a position that we don't need to know how to make our own cloths, hunt or grow our own food, and build our own homes.

Whether you like it or not, you deeply benefit from the way things are now. Because all western "civilizations" are built on the back of the working poor. Even if you are among the working poor you are still in a position to benefit from this society..
Compared to the way thing were just a few hundred years ago in your country and mine we live in a paradise.

you are right in that, it would be nice that no one should want, or need.. but in reality it is the want or need that people have that fuels our civilizations.

As of yet we do not have a true long term working model of a civilization without want or need. So be thankful you were born when you were born, and not in our dark past somewhere, lost to time.

 

[Willtor]

Godwin'd!

 

[Sketcher]

Can't happen. No one can eliminate the problem of scarcity. There's a good record of what happened when people tried to accomplish that, though:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyUu-8nbd58

 

[tansy]

I'd never work, simply because people are too selfish, too greedy, too all the other things that afflict humanity.
That's why our only hope for living together in freedom , is God. And btw, true freedom may not be what you think it is. Paradoxically, the Bible speaks of being bond-slaves or bond-servants to God, which on face value sounds awfully inhibiting and imprisoning..but in reality, it's not - the more one knows God, the nore one knows thatv true freedom etc lies ONLY in Him and with Him

 

[Dragons87]

Because all western "civilizations" are built on the back of the working poor.

As someone originally from the Far East, I can confirm that those civilisations are also built on the backs of the working poor. It's basically a universal problem.

It's nice to fantasise about utopia, but I think I'm a more practical person.

 

[ephraimanesti]

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MY FRIEND,

A very nice pipe dream. Unfortunately, it has no connection with the reality of our sin-filled fallen world.

Atheists gave your dream their best shot a while back, and what resulted--and what will ALWAYS result when God is left out of the equation--is the gulags, re-education camps, and killing fields of the atheist-lead "workers paradises" of the last century.

"Those who forget the past, are doomed to repeat it."

My suggestion to you would be to put your commendable youthful idealism to good use, and do what our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ instructed your namesake to do, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. STOP DOUBTING AND BELIEVE." (John 20:27)

As wonderful as your pipe-dream FANTASY appears to you, it pales before the REALITY of what God, through His Grace, freely offers each one of us,

"No eye has seen, nor ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love Him." (I Corinthians 2:9)

ABBA'S BRAT,
ephraim

 

[ebia]

Hey guys, just wanted to share some idea of mine with you.

What do you think, about one completely equal world.

I'm talking about NO boundaries, NO countries, and NO religion.
One world, where everybody is free to go where he/she wants to.
Everybody is equal, your race and your origin wont matter.
No religions or anything like that, just perfect peace, love and acceptance.
One language everybody speaks for sure and one type of money.
No more poverty for certain parts of the world. No more hunger.
Less overpopulation in certain areas etc...

A communist, liberal democracy with a president.

How do you guys feel about this?
Share your thoughts, please!

(post a comment, and i'll reply for sure)

To a large extent you've described the Kingdom of God, with a few minor exceptions and adjustments.

 

[andreha]

Honestly no. God does exist.

Amen to that.

I'd be lost without the Lord...

 

[andreha]

Honestly no. God does exist.

Amen to that.

I'd be hopelessly lost without the Lord...