One Jesus, two testimonies?

[Floatingaxe]

You're wrong when you say that and as often as you say it you'll still be wrong.
tulc(who is having a very good day!)

Actually, Zaac is correct in his assessment, based on the standard of the Word of God. Too bad you don't adhere to that as well.

 

[Ohioprof]

I differ. How dignified is it to proclaim oneself unashamedly homosexual? It is a shameful thing.

There is no shame at all in being gay. It is a blessing from God. I am proud to proclaim that I am gay, and I am proud to proclaim that I am a Christian.

 

[Floatingaxe]

There is no shame at all in being gay. It is a blessing from God. I am proud to proclaim that I am gay, and I am proud to proclaim that I am a Christian.

It is a shame, nonetheless, according to God. To be proud of it reveals one's profound level of depravity.

To claim the one's sin is a blessing from God is the indicator that Satan is here.

You cannot serve Satan and God at the same time. God has nothing to do with it.

 

[Ohioprof]

It is a shame, nonetheless, according to God. To be proud of it reveals one's profound level of depravity.

To claim the one's sin is a blessing from God is the indicator that Satan is here.

You cannot serve Satan and God at the same time. God has nothing to do with it.

There is no "depravity" in being gay. I am not Satan, and I do not "serve" Satan. I don't believe in Satan. To believe in Satan is like believing in the wicked witch of the West....it's a good story, but it's not true.

I am a person like you, a person whom God happened to make a gay person.

 

[Zaac]

There is no "depravity" in being gay. I am not Satan, and I do not "serve" Satan. I don't believe in Satan. To believe in Satan is like believing in the wicked witch of the West....it's a good story, but it's not true.

Just shameless!!!

 

[lincolngreen50]

There is no shame at all in being gay. It is a blessing from God. I am proud to proclaim that I am gay, and I am proud to proclaim that I am a Christian.

Homosexuality is not a blessing from the God that I fear and believe in,because for one, God says that Homosexuality is an abomination and two,those who believe and practise the act of Homosexuality, will be excluded from the lambs book of life and will have eternal damnation in Hell.
One can proclaim that they are Gay,one can even say they are Christian but dont believe in the Holy scriptures or Christ`s Resurrection.
If one was honest and proclaimed their Christianity with those provisos then those receiving the proclaimation would be able to make their minds up about one objectively.

 

[Ohioprof]

Here's some of my personal testimony. I did not choose to be gay. I discovered that I am gay. I accepted a long time ago that I am gay, and I have been very happy in my life, living as a gay person, because that is how God made me.

I try to follow the teachings of Jesus. Some people apparently do not think that this is enough, that I must adhere to their particular religious doctrine, or else I am a "liar" or I am serving "Satan." I am just a person like everyone else. I speak the truth as I understand it. I worship God, and I try to live a good life every day. Sometimes I fall down, and then I get back up and try to do better.

I am happy to let people here believe what they believe, and I do not denounce them for their beliefs. I disagree with them, but we live in a diverse world where people have different beliefs. Christians have different beliefs from each other.

I think our common goal should be to love God and to love each other and not let our different beliefs get in the way of that. Jesus called on us to love our neighbor. I think we should strive to love our neighbor and accept that people have different understandings of truth, different ways of thinking about and worshipping God.

 

[Ohioprof]

I have no shame in being gay. There is no shame in being gay.

 

[Zaac]

Homosexuality is not a blessing from the God that I fear and believe in,because for one, God says that Homosexuality is an abomination and two,those who believe and practise the act of Homosexuality, will be excluded from the lambs book of life and will have eternal damnation in Hell.
One can proclaim that they are Gay,one can even say they are Christian but dont believe in the Holy scriptures or Christ`s Resurrection.
If one was honest and proclaimed their Christianity with those provisos then those receiving the proclaimation would be able to make their minds up about one objectively.

And all of God's people said

 

[Ohioprof]

I respect your beliefs, but I disagree with them. I am not worried about going to hell. I don't believe hell exists.

 

[Ohioprof]

I am one of God's people. I don't agree with the previous poster's post.

 

[Hentenza]

Let me remind everyone to stay on topic and away from personal attacks. If this continues I will close the thread.

 

[Floatingaxe]

There is no "depravity" in being gay. I am not Satan, and I do not "serve" Satan. I don't believe in Satan. To believe in Satan is like believing in the wicked witch of the West....it's a good story, but it's not true.

I am a person like you, a person whom God happened to make a gay person.

That opinion is very, very wrong on all fronts.

I never said you are Satan. You are obviously under his influence. He is here.

 

[Ohioprof]

Let me remind everyone to stay on topic and away from personal attacks. If this continues I will close the thread.

Thank you!

 

[Ohioprof]

YThat opinion is very, very wrong on all fronts.

And you are free to disagree with me on all fronts. I respect your right to disagree.

 

[Zaac]

Here's some of my personal testimony. I did not choose to be gay. I discovered that I am gay. I accepted a long time ago that I am gay, and I have been very happy in my life, living as a gay person, because that is how God made me.

I try to follow the teachings of Jesus. Some people apparently do not think that this is enough,

Jesus Christ KNOWS it's not enough.

What about the rest of those folks you say are all automatically saved? Do they also try to follow the teachings of Jesus, or do they get to make the rules up as they go like you?

that I must adhere to their particular religious doctrine, or else I am a "liar" or I am serving "Satan." I am just a person like everyone else. I speak the truth as I understand it.

Idol worship of yourself.

I worship God, and I try to live a good life every day. Sometimes I fall down, and then I get back up and try to do better.

Every word out of your mouth says otherwise.

I am happy to let people here believe what they believe, and I do not denounce them for their beliefs. I disagree with them, but we live in a diverse world where people have different beliefs. Christians have different beliefs from each other.

We have different beliefs from Muslims and buddhists and Hindus and Mormons, and Satanists...Shall I continue the list. Your theology would be right up there with the rest of those BILLIONS of lost people.

I think our common goal should be to love God and to love each other and not let our different beliefs get in the way of that.

You don't get to decide what our common goal should be.

Jesus called on us to love our neighbor. I think we should strive to love our neighbor and accept that people have different understandings of truth, different ways of thinking about and worshipping God.

Fancy this you quoting the very Scripture to which you don't adhere. You can save the games. You've exposed yourself.

 

[Zaac]

I am one of God's people. I don't agree with the previous poster's post.

Then by your standard, I need to call back all the missionaries cause all those folks they are delivering the Gospel to are God's people.


Again. Shameless!

 

[Zaac]

That opinion is very, very wrong on all fronts.

I never said you are Satan. You are obviously under his influence. He is here.

Yes indeed. The Bible says 28Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over to a depraved mind, to do what ought not to be done. Romans 1:28

 

[Ohioprof]

There is simply a difference of opinion among Christians about how Christians should treat gay people and how God looks upon gay people. That difference has pulled apart Christian sects, most recently the Anglican Church. I don't understand how anyone can claim that Christians all agree on this, when obviously we do not all agree. Christian ministers do not agree with each other about this.

I predict that over time, the churches will come to accept gay people as we are, and most Christians will accept gay people as we are and not try to change us somehow into heterosexuals. I think it's not worth it for Christians to devote their time to this issue, which is really insignificant among the issues facing the world. Instead of trying to turn gay people into heterosexuals, I think we Christians need to focus on ending the war in Iraq, and on reducing global warming, and on reducing poverty, and on supporting human rights around the world. It's a waste of time for Christians to try to turn gay people into heterosexuals by badgering us, preaching at us, denouncing us and calling us names, and trying to entice us into "ex-gay ministries." These ministries don't succeed, and Christians have other issues that desperately need to be addressed.

 

[Ohioprof]

Why is it shameless? All people are God's people.