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Once Saved, Always Saved -- God's Holy Promise

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vrunca said:
:hug: Mesue!!!:hug: Miss ya girlie!!
I missed you too!


vrunca said:
So, would it be fair to say that God wont leave you to die in this state of being a pagan, He will guide you back to Him before you leave this world?
One would argue that if one were truly saved they would not have turned their back on God in the first place if one had truly accepted Jesus Christ as their personal Savior.
I cannot know a persons heart, that is for God to judge.
Blasphemy is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. Paganism is blasphemy. One would have to ask; was that person really saved?

Matthew 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

Is there someone that I can pray for?
PM me if you need to.
Sometimes people get mad at God for various reasons and rebel.
Just like a person can be Christian on the outside and empty on the inside, so can someone who runs from God and rebels. God knows their heart and if thy're truly saved the Holy Spirit can get through where no one else can because once you are indwelled with the Holy Spirit you are always indwelled.
 
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thank you so much for your help with this, I feel like I understand this more now....it really and truly was not about anyone inperticular, it was just something that I have always wondered about and never understood. But if you want to you can always pray for me, I love being prayed for and take all of the prayers I can get!!;) And I will keep you in my prayers too!!


Love ya!!:hug:
 
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vrunca said:
Hi friends!!
vrunca said:
I read the title of this thread and tried to read some of the posts, but I have a problem doing that. I have ADD and you may or may not have answered this question already, I don't really know, because I get kind of lost reading long posts....it's kind of embarrassing . So anyway, please forgive me if this has already been asked and/or answered and excuse the verbage that may be lacking on my part, my attention span is about as long as my little toenail!



O.k, with that being said: If a person say as a youngster with all of his/her heart and soul gives himself to Jesus and accepts Jesus as his/her Lord and Savior, then they are saved right? Let's just say that it is right, (but please still correct me if I am wrong!), well then as an adult this same person rebukes Christ and becomes a pagan...is that person still saved?



Please, please again forgive me and be patient with me, I have always wondered this and have been explained many times, but never could understand. Like I tell my kids, when you have to explain something to me, speak slow and use simple words, I am not the fastest bunny in the forest! Thanks so much for your help in this!



Peace and Love of Christ,

Veronica




In your sarino if they confess the Lord Jesus and believe in their heart that God raised Him from the dead they shall be saved.



Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

1Jo 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.



John tells us that once we believe and are sealed with the Holy Spirit it is impossible to sin{go back into unbelief}.



So according to the above scriptures it would be impossible for them to rebuke Jesus Christ.
 
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Fat said:
OSAS?
Rom 11:29 since God's gracious gifts and calling are irrevocable.

Yes

Sorry to be dumb here, :sigh: for many many weeks I have read OSAS and still can't work out what it is, is it a religion or another thread spot in CF? (CF = Christian Forum) ;)

James
 
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Sorry to be dumb here, :sigh: for many many weeks I have read OSAS and still can't work out what it is, is it a religion or another thread spot in CF? (CF = Christian Forum) ;)

James
You're not dumb.
There are some that think you can lose your salvation.
There are some that believe that Once Saved Always Saved (OSAS)
 
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SonOfThunder said:
Sorry to be dumb here, :sigh: for many many weeks I have read OSAS and still can't work out what it is, is it a religion yes you must choose a side in this fight or another thread spot in CF? (CF = Christian Forum) ;)

James

Yes it is a religion and it requires our participation once every seven days.



:help:
 
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