"On White Privilege"

[SummerMadness]

This is just a long way of saying that due to limitations of the study, they can't show whether the race factor favors whites or blacks.

And other evidence does not support that the system "favors blacks." The paper clearly states, "Heterogeneity across judges in sentencing by race suggests that courtroom outcomes may not be race blind." They can't remove the uncertainty, but they can see there is a racial component, and given the history of the United States and the findings in other studies, the idea of the theoretical judge favoring black defendants is unlikely. Can you say that statistically? No. But does other evidence suggest otherwise, yes.

They proposed ways to do this...yet they didn't and explained why.

They didn't do additional work because they wanted a publication; extra work is not so much about the effort, but because it's better to write a paper to highlight your novel method (Monte Carlo simulations), rather than trying to answer questions about every confounding variable. There is a degree of advancing your career here.

They did find a difference in incarceration rates...but not the sentencing. I've seen other studies that try to explain why black incarceration rates are higher (one proposed it's a result of blacks not taking plea deals more often than whites, something that I don't recall this study controlling for)...but I'm not going to post study after study when you have yet to post just one. You made several claims that blacks are sentenced unfairly, and I asked you to provide evidence in the form of a study just like you asked me.

Racial Gap in Men's Sentencing

Prison sentences of black men were nearly 20% longer than those of white men for similar crimes in recent years, an analysis by the U.S. Sentencing Commission found.

That racial gap has widened since the Supreme Court restored judicial discretion in sentencing in 2005, according to the Sentencing Commission's findings, which were submitted to Congress last month and released publicly this week.

In its report, the commission recommended that federal judges give sentencing guidelines more weight, and that appeals courts more closely scrutinize sentences that fall beyond them.

US Sentencing Commission releases (and provides on-line here only) new Booker report

Download Booker_PressRelease_final
Download Part A - Continuing Impact of Booker on Federal Sentencing​

It is quite clear there is racial discrimination that they may not be able to pinpoint with complete statistical certainty. However, given the policies like stop-and-frisk (of which I was surprisingly stopped in a polo shirt and khakis, you know "thug life"), police shootings, as well as evidence of racial discrimination in employment, housing, etc., suggestions arguing that there is no racism is ridiculous on its face. These factors are not independent, they're interconnected, and the current state is unacceptable, hence the reason to keep keepin' on.

 

[SummerMadness]

Maybe so but I cannot control what OTHER people do. I can only control how I feel about people. That was my point. I PERSONALLY judge based on the PERSON not their color not their religion, and the VAST majority of people I know treat race the same way. I cannot control how other people feel and whether other people are racist, sexist or whatever else.

Of course you can control what other people do. Laws control what you can and cannot do. Well, of course you could do whatever you want, but receiving punishment for your actions mitigates those actions.

This thread discusses people that do not judge based on the person, but on perceptions about them. They have a certain name on their resume and they don't get called in for an interview despite high qualifications. That attitude needs to change, part of that is educating people on common African American names and not laughing at those names because they're different. If they can learn to pronounce and not laugh at Czechowicz or Bachmeier, then they can do the same for Jamal, DeShawn, and Imani (which are not even difficult to pronounce).

 

[dogs4thewin]

Of course you can control what other people do. Laws control what you can and cannot do. Well, of course you could do whatever you want, but receiving punishment for your actions mitigates those actions.

This thread discusses people that do not judge based on the person, but on perceptions about them. They have a certain name on their resume and they don't get called in for an interview despite high qualifications. That attitude needs to change, part of that is educating people on common African American names and not laughing at those names because they're different. If they can learn to pronounce and not laugh at Czechowicz or Bachmeier, then they can do the same for Jamal, DeShawn, and Imani (which are not even difficult to pronounce).

Laws still though are not effective all the time. If over two million people incarcerated and millions or at 100000s of others on probation, parole or otherwise still under court supervision then I cannot really explain any clearer. I still oppose affrictive action it is not fair, but mandating that people hire folks based on anything other than strighte qualifations is just wrong and two could bring down productive down.

 

[Paidiske]

I cannot stand when people play the race card. Things happen to blacks because they commit crimes.

It's not "playing the race card." It's sharing experiences and understanding. If you reduce it to being a strategic move in an argument, you might shield yourself from having to take it on board, but you diminish and disrespect your conversation partner in so doing.

As to the "things happen to blacks because they commit crimes"... look. Nobody's saying there's no such thing as a black criminal. But responses to them can be disproportionate in comparison to white criminals.

Example from Australia: the Northern Territory Intervention. Notice that as part of this suite of measures the government specifically lifted the Racial Discrimination Act! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Territory_National_Emergency_Response

 

[Ana the Ist]

African Americans are part of American culture, why are they required to change in their native-born country? How is this not an example of privilege and then demanding everyone conform to suit your standards. Are you arguing this is something correct and desirable?

I'd like to grow out a footlong goatee and braid it and dye it pink. I'd like to tattoo the whites of my eyes black and legally change my name to Golgonash the Destroyer. Unfortunately, my job and society in general frowns on that sort of thing.

If parents want to name their children something unique and unusual...they have that right. They don't have the right to demand that everyone else accept it and not find it off-putting in any way.

It would be nice if we lived in a world where everyone was judged by the content of their character...but we don't. First impressions are often based on superficial things and I don't see any amount of awareness or legislation changing that.

 

[Ken-1122]

Out of wedlock does not mean single parent household. Which populations are most involved with their children?

Fathers' Involvement with Their Children: United States, 2006–2010

The statistics associated with fatherless homes are troubling; especially the percentage in prison
http://www.fathermag.com/news/2778-stats.shtml

Sometimes tired racist arguments don't address the complexity of some issues.

Don't tell me you are black; yet have never heard of these problems.
http://reason.com/archives/2014/10/08/acting-white-remains-a-barrier-for-black

Something you have failed to quantify, nothing more than parroting an old stereotype. Next thing you'll tell me how they're wearing baggy jeans.

Another thing you've failed to quantify, just say it's a fact, that'll do!

http://www.newafricaradio.com/hip-hop.htm


Bury your head in the sand if you wish, these problems are real

Ken

 

[SummerMadness]

I'd like to grow out a footlong goatee and braid it and dye it pink. I'd like to tattoo the whites of my eyes black and legally change my name to Golgonash the Destroyer. Unfortunately, my job and society in general frowns on that sort of thing.

If parents want to name their children something unique and unusual...they have that right. They don't have the right to demand that everyone else accept it and not find it off-putting in any way.

It would be nice if we lived in a world where everyone was judged by the content of their character...but we don't. First impressions are often based on superficial things and I don't see any amount of awareness or legislation changing that.

And yet with African Americans, are they tattooing their corneas and dying their hair pink? Are they choosing names that are atypical? No. They are wearing hairstyles that are common to African Americans, they are choosing names that are common among African Americans. We're not talking about ideas or customs that are uncommon to humans in general; a name like Jamal is not like choosing the name Pilot Inspektor. Arguing otherwise is exactly the point being made about white privilege. Society (which you're probably arguing is American society) is not reflective of all Americans, it's reflective of white Americans. You avoid unusual names, don't worry, African Americans do the same, but you go a little further and tell them not to choose names typical of their culture. "The foreigners changed their names!" As if they're foreigners. All this communicates is your views of them as the other and requiring more of them to participate in your society.

Saying that's the way the world is has been argued many times, not just now. I am thankful no one listened to attitudes like that now, nor in the 1960s, 1860s or 1770s. People will continue to push toward a more perfect union. If you acknowledge that the union is not perfect, great, now get out of the way. However, if you wish to perpetuate the attitudes that keep the union less perfect, then prepare to get rolled over. Just as with women's rights, segregation and discrimination against homosexuals, people will continue to change attitudes. Part of that is pointing out the inequalities in our society and working to erase them through awareness, dialogue, and in some cases, legislation.

Who remembers people saying, "Marriage is between a man and a woman, that's the way it is!"? Keep on, keepin' on!

The statistics associated with fatherless homes are troubling; especially the percentage in prison
http://www.fathermag.com/news/2778-stats.shtml

It's a good thing most African American fathers are involved in their children's lives then.

Don't tell me you are black; yet have never heard of these problems.
http://reason.com/archives/2014/10/08/acting-white-remains-a-barrier-for-black

Okay, I will not tell you I'm black.

In my experience, accusations of "acting white" does not come from African Americans (if it did, the latest this occurs is in middle school), it mostly comes from white Americans.

http://www.newafricaradio.com/hip-hop.htm

Bury your head in the sand if you wish, these problems are real

I think it's obvious that you don't read what you post. With all your comments about personal responsibility, it is funny that you would post something like this considering the content.

 

[tatteredsoul]

My cousin was with her friend (white) shopping, looking at stockings. Her friend showed her some "nude" stockings and tried to convince my cousin that they would be nice for her. My cousin repeatedly told her that she couldn't wear them. Finally, after long around the store and being shown the "nth" pair of stockings, she yelled that she can't wear "nude" stockings.

Her friend said, "Oh, I forgot you were black for a second."

My cousin speaks English correctly, and is in vanguard in the medical program. She came to me almost livid saying, "how could she forget I was black? I cant..."

 

[Gxg (G²)]

The names are perceived to be held by African Americans because they are popular baby names among African Americans (e.g., Jamar). Is this study completely foreign to you?

Are Emily and Greg More Employable than Lakisha and Jamal? A Field Experiment on Labor Market Discrimination

There is also the factor that those names may reflect socio-economic status, which is still influenced by attitudes of the majority: Do 'Black' Names Matter in Hiring?

This is something that has been discussed for a very long time....and unfortunately, it makes a world of difference.

 

[Ana the Ist]

That isn't even close to what I said. I never said anything was the fault of anyone.

Try reading it again.

Then why are you so keen on everyone acknowledging it? Why isn't the discussion ever about black privilege, women's privilege, tall privilege, beauty privilege....and so on?

Surely you realize that when the discussion is only about white privilege is appears to be an attack?

All problems require you to know they exist before you can deal with them.

No problems require everyone's acknowledgment in order to be solved. If you have a solution...lay it out...let's quit beating around the bush. If you don't have a solution, then quit arguing with me for pointing out that there's no solution to this "problem". It's as if everyone who wants to bemoan "white privilege" endlessly without any progress and then wonders why some of us are tired of hearing about it.

I once saw a psychological piece on the disadvantages of being short and male in the U.S.. They went on and on with empirical evidence of how they're less likely to be promoted, have their opinions considered equally, and worst of all...find a date with a woman. Women had to be told they were multimillionaires or geniuses...or high ranking military personnel before they would even consider a date with a man.

Yet in spite of the staggering unfairness of their situation...none of the men even remotely suggested it was the rest of the world that had to change in order for them to get by in life. They considered their size an obstacle that they had to learn to overcome.

Because people who don't acknowledge the problem WON'T DO ANYTHING TO HELP FIX IT!!!!

Again...fix it how? I've acknowledged the problem (perhaps not to the extent within the article in the OP)...I fully admit that there are some inherent advantages in being white.

Now what?

I offered one idea. Others have offered other ones. And if we start talking about it, and thinking about it, I'm sure we can come up with even more.

It's possible that I missed that part. What was your idea? The job interviews behind a screen so the appearance of the applicant isn't a factor?

What about jobs where appearances are a necessary part of the job?

In real life, people don't hire other people by looking at job applications?

I've never been hired without a job interview.

Is that what I said? I don't recall saying that.

I didn't say a word about "racism" one way or the other. I think it goes beyond that, to be honest. It's more about preconceptions and assumptions than overt or blatant racism, I think.

It isn't just unusual names...that was an example.

Part of the problem with this "problem" is those who want everyone to agree it's a problem....don't seem to agree on what the problem is exactly.

Are employers avoiding these names out of racism...as in they associate the names with black people and won't give them a chance. Or is it a subconscious avoidance of the unfamiliar? What is the problem exactly?

I would think you'd all be in agreement on this since, according to you, it's absolutely necessary in order to fix the problem.

No, it wouldn't.

-- A2SG, they still call the space between trees a forest, don't they?

Yea, it would. I've come across many names of white people in my life where I had to ask multiple times how to pronounce the name. My name isn't all that unusual in the northeast...but head to the southwest and I'll be lucky if it's pronounced correctly even half of the time. I suppose it would be enlightening to see if there's a study showing white people with unusual or unique names have the same problem....but I imagine that study might be hard to find (if it exists).

As for the forest....it depends on what's there. If the space between trees is a quarter of a mile and it's filled with water....we'd call it a pond.

 

[A2SG]

Then why are you so keen on everyone acknowledging it?

Because it's a problem that needs addressing.

Why isn't the discussion ever about black privilege, women's privilege, tall privilege, beauty privilege....and so on?

You want to discuss them, go ahead! No one's stopping you. But white privilege is the OP, so....

Surely you realize that when the discussion is only about white privilege is appears to be an attack?

Only if one assumes it to be so. It needn't be.

No problems require everyone's acknowledgment in order to be solved.

Nothing will get everyone's acknowledgment....but if more people acknowledge a problem, that means more people will be trying to find solutions.

If you have a solution...lay it out...let's quit beating around the bush.

I've offered ideas.

If you don't have a solution, then quit arguing with me for pointing out that there's no solution to this "problem".

I didn't. Maybe you have me confused with someone else?

It's as if everyone who wants to bemoan "white privilege" endlessly without any progress and then wonders why some of us are tired of hearing about it.

I haven't bemoaned anything. I mentioned that it exists, and offered an idea or two on how to deal with the issue in the future.

I once saw a psychological piece on the disadvantages of being short and male in the U.S.. They went on and on with empirical evidence of how they're less likely to be promoted, have their opinions considered equally, and worst of all...find a date with a woman. Women had to be told they were multimillionaires or geniuses...or high ranking military personnel before they would even consider a date with a man.

Yet in spite of the staggering unfairness of their situation...none of the men even remotely suggested it was the rest of the world that had to change in order for them to get by in life. They considered their size an obstacle that they had to learn to overcome.

Sure, because becoming taller is easy!

Again...fix it how?

I'm open to ideas...what have you got?

I've acknowledged the problem (perhaps not to the extent within the article in the OP)...I fully admit that there are some inherent advantages in being white.

Now what?

You tell me. Imagine you're not white any more, and try and see how that affects things, and maybe you'll find an idea or two that just might work.

It's possible that I missed that part. What was your idea? The job interviews behind a screen so the appearance of the applicant isn't a factor?

That's one.

What about jobs where appearances are a necessary part of the job?

If people are aware that there can often be an unconscious tendency to assume white people are more qualified than black ones, then maybe they'll stop before they make decisions based on that assumption and look at the situation more fully.

I've never been hired without a job interview.

See? That's real life, right there.

Part of the problem with this "problem" is those who want everyone to agree it's a problem....don't seem to agree on what the problem is exactly.

Then maybe we should talk about it.

Are employers avoiding these names out of racism...as in they associate the names with black people and won't give them a chance. Or is it a subconscious avoidance of the unfamiliar? What is the problem exactly?

While I'm sure there are some who think the former, I'd say the latter is closer to the way most people think.

I would think you'd all be in agreement on this since, according to you, it's absolutely necessary in order to fix the problem.

I don't know if there is complete agreement on this issue, which is kind of why we need to talk about it. Until we can do that, we won't find any solutions, let alone actually try to use them.

Yea, it would. I've come across many names of white people in my life where I had to ask multiple times how to pronounce the name. My name isn't all that unusual in the northeast...but head to the southwest and I'll be lucky if it's pronounced correctly even half of the time. I suppose it would be enlightening to see if there's a study showing white people with unusual or unique names have the same problem....but I imagine that study might be hard to find (if it exists).

If the entirety of the problem lied in names, then that might be quite significant. Since it doesn't, names are only part of a larger issue.

Look at it this way: what assumptions do you make about these different names: Jamiqua, Siobhan, Muayyad.

As for the forest....it depends on what's there. If the space between trees is a quarter of a mile and it's filled with water....we'd call it a pond.

And if someone asked where that pond was, what would you say?

-- A2SG, if this part of the post continues much longer, my point will be made for me.....

 

[Ana the Ist]

Of course, not all black people are like the above - likely not even 10% of the population. That still doesn't stop people from stereotyping the entire group because a few fit the qualifications.

Isn't that the basis of white privilege? The privileges of a few white people are assumed to be shared by nearly all whites and that creates a basis for threads like these where agitators call upon all whites to acknowledge their privilege...regardless if they've ever experienced any.

 

[A2SG]

Isn't that the basis of white privilege? The privileges of a few white people are assumed to be shared by nearly all whites and that creates a basis for threads like these where agitators call upon all whites to acknowledge their privilege...regardless if they've ever experienced any.

I've been pulled over by a cop about twice in my life. I have a friend who has been pulled over by cops more than 30 times in his life: he's twenty years younger than I am, and a successful surgeon. He also drives a better, newer car than I do.

He's black. I'm not.

-- A2SG, just today's entry for Anecdotal Evidence Day......

 

[tatteredsoul]

Isn't that the basis of white privilege? The privileges of a few white people are assumed to be shared by nearly all whites and that creates a basis for threads like these where agitators call upon all whites to acknowledge their privilege...regardless if they've ever experienced any.

It isn't just a few white people who benefit from privilege; indeed most all benefit from it (it should be clear from this thread that most don't even realize how they benefit.) And, privilege across the spread manifold of "whiteness" is not a stereotype, derogatory state/derision, or handicap.

So, no, white privilege isn't the same as saying all black people like chicken, or black males who wear hoodies and baggy pants deserve to get frisked, or any other stereotype. Privilege is something that is intrinsic based on the system in which the privileged live. It is internal (which is why most people with it vehemently deny it's existence, or project it on others.) Stereotypes are external - indeed, a measure of how the outside world perceives the person both inwardly and outwardly - based on superficial experiences and half-truths. I hope you were being facetious comparing stereotypes to privilege.

 

[SummerMadness]

It isn't just a few white people who benefit from privilege; indeed most all benefit from it (it should be clear from this thread that most don't even realize how they benefit.) And, privilege across the spread manifold of "whiteness" is not a stereotype, derogatory state/derision, or handicap.

So, no, white privilege isn't the same as saying all black people like chicken, or black males who wear hoodies and baggy pants deserve to get frisked, or any other stereotype. Privilege is something that is intrinsic based on the system in which the privileged live. It is internal (which is why most people with it vehemently deny it's existence, or project it on others.) Stereotypes are external - indeed, a measure of how the outside world perceives the person both inwardly and outwardly - based on superficial experiences and half-truths. I hope you were being facetious comparing stereotypes to privilege.

People have a fundamental understanding of privilege, they think it's an explicit thing you're given. You're not given anything. I don't understand how anyone can talk about the advantage being a white Christian heterosexual male and then say you're "generalizing" for pointing out this advantage in our society.

 

[The Cadet]

Isn't that the basis of white privilege? The privileges of a few white people are assumed to be shared by nearly all whites and that creates a basis for threads like these where agitators call upon all whites to acknowledge their privilege...regardless if they've ever experienced any.

It's not a few. Something is not a "privilege" unless it's a widespread, societal phenomenon. The idea of white privilege when it comes to traffic stops is not an illusion; it really is the case that black people get pulled over and searched way more often. Jon Stewart put it best:

“I guarantee you that every person of color in this country has faced an indignity — from the ridiculous to the grotesque to the sometimes fatal — at some point in their … I’m going to say last couple of hours because of their skin color.”

 

[Gxg (G²)]

Of course you can control what other people do. Laws control what you can and cannot do. Well, of course you could do whatever you want, but receiving punishment for your actions mitigates those actions.

This thread discusses people that do not judge based on the person, but on perceptions about them. They have a certain name on their resume and they don't get called in for an interview despite high qualifications. That attitude needs to change, part of that is educating people on common African American names and not laughing at those names because they're different. If they can learn to pronounce and not laugh at Czechowicz or Bachmeier, then they can do the same for Jamal, DeShawn, and Imani (which are not even difficult to pronounce).

'

Black' Names A Resume Burden? - CBS News

Black Names Gone Wild: Are We Going Overboard with the Creativity? | Clutch Magazine

Statistically, a resume with a black-sounding name is more likely to be passed over.

I think the issue of overt racism that many struggle with is that it is always an issue of discrimination when others assume someone's name means "nothing" while their name does - or that others, in the freedom to make new names with NEW meanings relevant to the culture they come from, are somehow making things up...while standard names for one culture are exalted. As it is, those names which others consider "standard" and "not unique" didn't begin with the appearance of mankind. They were new at some point and MADE UP!!! And over time, as others gave them meaning, they were accepted. It's the same with black names. Granted, there are limits to what names should be - and naming your child after objects or common things shouldn't be done for the sake of the child . (like naming your child "Blanket" as Michael Jackson did - regardless of how much I respected the man)....but some things seem way out of proportion.​

In practical example, Here's a list from the book "Freakonomics: A Rogue Economist Explores the Hidden Side of Everything," by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner, showing the top 20 whitest- and blackest-sounding girl and boy names.

20 "Whitest" Girl Names

Molly
Amy
Claire
Emily
Katie
Madeline
Katelyn
Emma
Abigail
Carly
Jenna
Heather
Katherine
Caitlin
Kaitlin
Holly
Allison
Kaitlyn
Hannah
Kathryn

20 "Blackest" Girl Names

Imani
Ebony
Shanice
Aaliyah
Precious
Nia
Deja
Diamond
Asia
Aliyah
Jada
Tierra
Tiara
Kiara
Jazmine
Jasmin
Jazmin
Jasmine
Alexus
Raven

20 "Whitest" Boy Names

Jake
Connor
Tanner
Wyatt
Cody
Dustin
Luke
Jack
Scott
Logan
Cole
Lucas
Bradley
Jacob
Garrett
Dylan
Maxwell
Hunter
Brett
Colin

20 "Blackest" Boy Names

DeShawn
DeAndre
Marquis
Darnell
Terrell
Malik
Trevon
Tyrone
Willie
Dominique
Demetrius
Reginald
Jamal
Maurice
Jalen
Darius
Xavier
Terrance
Andre
Darryl
​

If someone doesn't want to name their child a name that sounds like a name in black culture - like - that doesn't mean that a company has any real basis or logical right to deny them because of their name....unless they make a categorical statement that they don't to reach out to the people from whom a potential employee comes from...and thus alienate other markets. People don't get rejected when they have names from other cultures such as India ( Haashim )or Asia - and names from those in Arab culture (including Muslim relgiion ...like Mohommad or Abdul) - and I've seen many with names like working in banks and places of high influence.

The same should apply to names that come out of black culture.

What many seem to often fail in realizing is that the issue of names/employments is a true issue of social justice and concern for our neighbors. I think of single fathers/men coming out of prison who are very hard workers seeking to take care of their families and do everything on their end to see their own are taken care of - even getting education while in prison/being HIGHLY intelligent and articulate (and yet in some places, because of their record, they're denied a job/stereotyped - even though others have done substantial work in addressing the issue, as seen here/here/ here/here/here/ here/here/here/here/here and here). It is truly important to see the impact of one study years ago on the ways that others without jobs have often been discriminated against due to ethnic issues, as job applications with the same material of high quality were submitted and yet those with more ethnic sounding names (like "Tyrone" or "Terrel") were ignored whereas those with traditional American names (like "John" or "David") were consistently accepted:

• Walking While Black | Psychology Today
• 
  Employers discriminate against blacks
• Finding a job while having an "ethnic" name | theGrio
• The psychology of prejudice, stereotyping, and discrimination
• Name Discrimination! How It Affects Job and Career Choices, Life

Those things have happened often - and thus, no one can act as if all people not able to find a job/impoverished are in the position because of a lack of education/qualifications. And yet because of their names, they are placed into a very negative cycle where society is damaged...


A lot of this goes to the issue that's similar such as addressing the image others don't want to have due to what the names envoke - like others saying they don't like trailer park names because they give an image of laziness.

And yet the reality is that a name is not the same as work ethnic - and many famous people have names that didn't seem to be "professional." My cousin and I were discussing recently the reality of how image makes a world of difference - for if someone in corporate world has a specific name, no one says anything due to their position....and thus, they have more grace to do things that others cannot - they can control the image that gets presented.

For a good review on the issue, one can go here to White Women With Black Hairstyles Redefine Corporate America

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As another noted, if you came into the work place with a name like "Rashim David" - and he was a white person, you'd not raise a second thought. Of course, if you were black coming in for a job, there's an image associated with the name that puts you in the negative - and it's not fair.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

The absolute only way anyone can claim to not know what "white privilege" is or that it exists is for them to lie - either to themselves or to others (or both).

 

[Gxg (G²)]

The absolute only way anyone can claim to not know what "white privilege" is or that it exists is for them to lie - either to themselves or to others (or both).

You'd probably appreciate the following resources from others addressing the issue:

• Red Tails: Using Privilege for good? - By Their Strange Fruit (http://bytheirstrangefruit.blogspot.com/p/topical-index.html )
  
  
• Identity in a White-Default World
  
• Incarceration: The New Jim Crow - By Their Strange Fruit
  
• Friday Fruit (04/29/16)
• Friday Fruit (04/05/13)
  
• Microaggressions - By Their Strange Fruit
• aRacism in Academic Admissions - By Their Strange Fruit
  
• Timeline of Racism (Part 2) - By Their Strange Fruit

 

[tatteredsoul]

The absolute only way anyone can claim to not know what "white privilege" is or that it exists is for them to lie - either to themselves or to others (or both).

There really isn't another way unless you have lived remotely all of your life. And I mean with no Internet or TV either. As i said before, black negativity and white hegemony is EXPORTED all around the world as "truthful stereotypes." People are acting like it doesn't exist, projecting the matter on every other social category but the OP, and exhausting hypothetical circumlocution - which distracts from the main issue - insstead of tackling the issue directly and head on. It is really an insult to the people who have to deal with it every day. It's like a blind person asking, "what street am I on," to which one would reply, "open your eyes!" Either there is a veil of (in)voluntary ignorance about this issue, or people are purposefully dancing around the issues.

Seriously, it is a slap in the face.