Oldest rock in the world 2 days after creation (embedded age)

[dlamberth]

What are you dreaming about now? Why would I reject the natural? It is where we live and one would have to be crazy to try and reject it. What you need to be careful about is giving just the natural credit for our very existence.

When not looking at the natural process of a rock, or the rest of the earth for that matter, that's rejecting the natural process.

 

[truthpls]

A study of the natural world can repent? What are you going on about?

Changing the idea that the natural world leads us to know about where it all came from. The natural world study only leads us to learn about how it works.

You're the one who says that embedded age is a thing, not me, so I'm free of it anyway.

I am not sure I referred to your misdating as embedded age. You do however imbed imaginary ages in rocks, so maybe that term can work

 

[truthpls]

When not looking at the natural process of a rock, or the rest of the earth for that matter, that's rejecting the natural process.

Not true. I can look at radioactive decay without making a god that created the universe out of it

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Changing the idea that the natural world leads us to know about where it all came from. The natural world study only leads us to learn about how it works.

And that's only a problem for you and you alone. So no, science has no need to 'repent' just because of one offended Canadian Young Earth Creationist.

I am not sure I referred to your misdating as embedded age. You do however imbed imaginary ages in rocks, so maybe that term can work

.... THIS THREAD IS TALKING ABOUT EMBEDDED AGE!! IT'S IN THE TITLE!

 

[dlamberth]

Not true. I can look at radioactive decay without making a god that created the universe out of it

What about the geological history of the rest of the Earth that shows it many billions of years old? You have clearly rejected the natural evolutionary process of the earth. I live in the Pacific Northwest where we have the Cascade Mountains. The geological history of it's build up that goes back 45 million years. Are you now saying that you accept that history. Or there's the Yellowstone Hot Spot, remember you laughing at it's history? The Yellowstone Hot Spot has played a part of the geology of the Pacific Northwest for 60 million years. Is that something your accepting now?

 

[Aaron112]

All the verifiable , geological, etc, history of the earth is
exactly as YHVH reveals in Scripture.
Choose today who to believe, YHVH the Creator, or false gods / men.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

All the verifiable , geological, etc, history of the earth is
exactly as YHVH reveals in Scripture.
Choose today who to believe, YHVH the Creator, or false gods / men.

It really doesn't.

 

[dlamberth]

You do however imbed imaginary ages in rocks, so maybe that term can work

As we've gone over already, you have no idea how geochemistry science works or to the extent of it's usage and knowledge of what it can show us.

 

[Aaron112]

"YHVH the Creator: The biblical narrative consistently portrays YHVH as the one and only true God, Creator of the universe, and the God of Israel. The prophets and biblical authors repeatedly emphasize YHVH’s uniqueness, monotheistic nature, and exclusive claim to worship (e.g., Isaiah 44:6, 45:5-7; Exodus 20:3-5).

False Gods: The search results also highlight the existence of false gods and idols worshipped by ancient nations, including Baal, Molech, Ashtoreth, and others (e.g., 1 Kings 18:18-40; Jeremiah 2:8). These deities were often associated with polytheistic religions and were rejected by the Israelites as false and idolatrous.

Conclusion: In light of the biblical testimony and historical records, it is reasonable to conclude that YHVH the Creator is the one true God, and false gods are mere creations of human imagination or idolatrous constructs. The choice between believing in YHVH and false gods is clear: YHVH is the only God worthy of worship and devotion."

 

[dlamberth]

All the verifiable , geological, etc, history of the earth is
exactly as YHVH reveals in Scripture.
Choose today who to believe, YHVH the Creator, or false gods / men.

That's not at all true.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

"YHVH the Creator: The biblical narrative consistently portrays YHVH as the one and only true God, Creator of the universe, and the God of Israel. The prophets and biblical authors repeatedly emphasize YHVH’s uniqueness, monotheistic nature, and exclusive claim to worship (e.g., Isaiah 44:6, 45:5-7; Exodus 20:3-5).

False Gods: The search results also highlight the existence of false gods and idols worshipped by ancient nations, including Baal, Molech, Ashtoreth, and others (e.g., 1 Kings 18:18-40; Jeremiah 2:8). These deities were often associated with polytheistic religions and were rejected by the Israelites as false and idolatrous.

Conclusion: In light of the biblical testimony and historical records, it is reasonable to conclude that YHVH the Creator is the one true God, and false gods are mere creations of human imagination or idolatrous constructs. The choice between believing in YHVH and false gods is clear: YHVH is the only God worthy of worship and devotion."

And none of this is any evidence at all that embedded age is a thing worth considering as fact.

 

[BCP1928]

All the verifiable , geological, etc, history of the earth is
exactly as YHVH reveals in Scripture.
Choose today who to believe, YHVH the Creator, or false gods / men.

You are evidently on the same mission as AV1611 and truthpls. The first statement of the Nicene Creed, the basic statement of faith for all Christians, reads "I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible." Your sole purpose has been to make that statement conditional on acceptance of a literal and inerrant Genesis and give the lie to anyone who professes it without that condition.

 

[Aaron112]

be careful what you listen to; most is wrong and misleading.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

be careful what you listen to; most is wrong and misleading.

So we shouldn't listen to you then. Got it.

 

[truthpls]

And that's only a problem for you and you alone. So no, science has no need to 'repent' just because of one offended Canadian Young Earth Creationist.

It is not a problem for me to look at the natural. The only problem is when you look at nothing else

.... THIS THREAD IS TALKING ABOUT EMBEDDED AGE!! IT'S IN THE TITLE!

But what that means is another story. In context here it means the age you embed in your head instead of reality and what we had from creation.

 

[truthpls]

What about the geological history of the rest of the Earth that shows it many billions of years old?

The example of the rock was already looked at. What else have you got?

You have clearly rejected the natural evolutionary process of the earth.

No, there are processes going on in the earth. We reject those as being the creator

I live in the Pacific Northwest where we have the Cascade Mountains. The geological history of it's build up that goes back 45 million years.

Just like the rock goes back billions of years. We get it. The fantasy dates loom large in your head

Are you now saying that you accept that history.

Yes and that started with Adam

Or there's the Yellowstone Hot Spot, remember you laughing at it's history? The Yellowstone Hot Spot has played a part of the geology of the Pacific Northwest for 60 million years. Is that something your accepting now?

Why would I accept dates 60 million years older than the universe existed? I accept them for what they are. A misguided belief that the natural world is basically the creator of heaven and earth and a belief that what is in a rock was what was responsible for all that is in the rock. Circular reasoning at best

 

[truthpls]

As we've gone over already, you have no idea how geochemistry science works or to the extent of it's usage and knowledge of what it can show us.

Sorry you missed it. Here is the deal. Geochemistry is not the creator any more than the radioactive decay process was. Anything else?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

You are evidently on the same mission as AV1611 and truthpls.

What "mission" are you talking about? Have you been spying on our secret society's meetings?

 

[BCP1928]

What "mission" are you talking about? Have you been spying on our secret society's meetings?

It's not a secret. Biblical creationists are quite up front about it. If you claim to believe in God as creator of all things but not a literal Genesis you are lying.

 

[Aaron112]

Just as Jesus Says about all of His Word - reject Jesus , reject His Word. Believe Jesus, Believe His Word.

If you claim to believe in God as creator of all things but not a literal Genesis you are lying.