Oldest rock in the world 2 days after creation (embedded age)

[BCP1928]

So explain how the bible when talking about the beginning as it often does (and as Jesus referred to also) is misusing the things said in Scripture?

Explain how Moses 'misused' anything in what he said here?

Exodus 20:11 -- For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

No, let's go back to the specific passage you quoted:

John 1:3 -- All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

From the standpoint of Christian theology, nothing in that passage precludes or is contradicted by a naturalistic scientific explanation for any phenomenon. To say that any Christian who accepts the naturalistic explanation is denying the truth of that passage is a bald faced lie.

 

[dlamberth]

A tea leaf doesn't really show us anything or a crystal ball. When people use complicated natural only methods to interpret all that they see in nature, that is not the world showing them anything. That is them imposing a view and set of principles and beliefs onto the world.

As far as the window of geology into the Earth and the knowledge of God's own Creation it has opened up for us, it's done a way better job of that than what you have been pushing. Maybe a re-evaluation is in order on your part.

 

[Vambram]

Better ask Him

“This is God’s Message, the God who made earth, made it livable and lasting, known everywhere as God: ‘Call to me and I will answer you. I’ll tell you marvelous and wondrous things that you could never figure out on your own.’

Amen, brother.

 

[AV1611VET]

Vambram, God bless you, my friend, for all those votes!

 

[Vambram]

Vambram, God bless you, my friend, for all those votes!

I agree that the Lord God did embed age into His Creation. I do believe that the earth is no more than 10,000 years old and that the earth is probably only around 6,000 years old.
However, the "Gap Theory" for Genesis 1:1-2 is a feasible theory that would not necessarily contradict the literal interpretation of the rest of the Scriptures on the creationism topics. Do you agree with that could be possible?

 

[Frank Robert]

Just out of curiosity, how should a first-grade Sunday school teacher teach her class about Adam and Eve

That would be dependent on their particular denominational beliefs.

"Okay, boys and girls. Today we are going to learn about Adam and Eve.

That sounds childish.

First off, whenever you see the name "Adam" in Genesis 1, just put the letter "y" and a "dash" before that name.

Sounds like you are getting your information from the back of cereal box.

I'll explain that later.

You can't so don't need to try latter.

Make the "y" a lower-case "y".

Then, for Eve, put a lower-case "mt" and upper-case "DNA" ... no spaces ... before her name.

And you should have this:

"y-Adam and mtDNA Eve."

Pencil those letters into your Bible, so you don't forget; or write them out in the margin."

Appears that you do not have respect for Christain denominations outside your own, it that.

Is that how it should be taught, Frank?

I attended Christian schools and University. Where ever you got your Christian education you sound like you missed the classes on loving your neighbors.

 

[Vambram]

I agree that the Lord God did embed age into His Creation. I do believe that the earth is no more than 10,000 years old and that the earth is probably only around 6,000 years old.
However, the "Gap Theory" for Genesis 1:1-2 is a feasible theory that would not necessarily contradict the literal interpretation of the rest of the Scriptures on the creationism topics. Do you agree with that could be possible?

@Warden_of_the_Storm why did you laugh at my post?

 

[AV1611VET]

I agree that the Lord God did embed age into His Creation. I do believe that the earth is no more than 10,000 years old and that the earth is probably only around 6,000 years old.
However, the "Gap Theory" for Genesis 1:1-2 is a feasible theory that would not necessarily contradict the literal interpretation of the rest of the Scriptures on the creationism topics. Do you agree with that could be possible?

I'm not a big fan of the Gap theory.

Do you have a Scofield Reference Bible?

Scofield believed in the Gap theory.

 

[truthpls]

No, let's go back to the specific passage you quoted:

John 1:3 -- All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

From the standpoint of Christian theology, nothing in that passage precludes or is contradicted by a naturalistic scientific explanation for any phenomenon.

So Jesus made all things and that is the same as saying He actually made nothing, it all came about by naturalistic causes according to you. Do you not see a problem there?

To say that any Christian who accepts the naturalistic explanation is denying the truth of that passage is a bald faced lie.

No, because Jesus explained what 'in the beginning' means. It was also the time He made the first man and woman. Does that remind you of any place in the bible? If you thought this meant that Adam really came from a monkeyish female or that the world really came from some 'natural' cosmic collision etc you are seriously mistaken.

 

[AV1611VET]

That sounds childish.

A first-grade Sunday school teacher saying, "Okay, boys and girls, today we're going to learn about Adam and Eve," sounds childish to you?

 

[Vambram]

I'm not a big fan of the Gap theory.

Do you have a Scofield Reference Bible?

Scofield believed in the Gap theory.

The Scofield Reference Bible was my first study Bible, back in 1979. That was the first time that I had learned about the Gap Theory. Like you, I am not a big fan of that theory. However, I recognize that it is a feasible possibility.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sounds like you are getting your information from the back of cereal box.

This cereal box?

Y-chromosomal_Adam

 

[truthpls]

As far as the window of geology into the Earth and the knowledge of God's own Creation it has opened up for us,

Funny you use those words. Eve heard a similar claim.

Genesis 3:5
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

it's done a way better job of that than what you have been pushing. Maybe a re-evaluation is in order on your part.

The claims about man being an animal, coming from animals and basically being an animal on a meaningless little blue speck in a non created universe are not in sync with Scripture by any stretch of the imagination. That is not a sound proposition.

 

[AV1611VET]

The Scofield Reference Bible was my first study Bible, back in 1979. That was the first time that I had learned about the Gap Theory. Like you, I am not a big fan of that theory. However, I recognize that it is a feasible possibility.

Scofield was pretty smart.

The Scofield Reference Bible has a built-in chain reference guide.

Do you know how to use the marginal references as a chain-reference Bible?

 

[FreeinChrist]

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