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Oldest rock in the world 2 days after creation (embedded age)

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The rock was how it was meant to be. Your failure to be able to tell us why (and assigning only natural reasons for it's existence) does not make it look billions of years old to us at all. If someone ate a horribly large amount of magic mushrooms, and sat there looking at a dog, it might look like the dog is talking to them, and wearing a dress and has a two foot tongue.

Try not to blame the dog for the stoned person's visions.

Saying 'the rock was how it was meant to be' is doing nothing more than once again asserting and supporting the idea that God is deceptive. It's also an absolutely massive non-answer from you as well.

So again, I ask: why would God create a rock 6000 years ago with an embedded age of several billion years?
 
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Except that you can't show such an event taking place.
Science can't show. One way or the other. Yet it explains all things the other way.
Except that I've repeatedly said that science can't study the supernatural. You're the one who's acting like it can.



Until you show the supernatural did it, then all there is is the natural.
Until you take your head out of the sand, then all there is would be the sand
 
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Science can't show. One way or the other. Yet it explains all things the other way.

Until you take your head out of the sand, then all there is would be the sand

Then give us evidence of the supernatural to study then.
 
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Saying 'the rock was how it was meant to be' is doing nothing more than once again asserting and supporting the idea that God is deceptive.
Saying that the rock had to come to exist only by natural means is the deception.
It's also an absolutely massive non-answer from you as well.
I explained how man does not know how God creates. Nor how He separates water and land on a planet. Nor how He affects nature when He curses mankind.

Looking at nothing but natural processes in a created rock to explain where it came from or how long ago is deception. No need to blame others.
 
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Saying that the rock had to come to exist only by natural means is the deception.

You can't show that is is deception. While embedded age certainly is nothing but deception.

I explained how man does not know how God creates. Nor how He separates water and land on a planet. Nor how He affects nature when He curses mankind.

Looking at nothing but natural processes in a created rock to explain where it came from or how long ago is deception. No need to blame others.

Yes, you explained, but you showed nothing as to why anyone should accept what you say as truth. So I'm going to continue calling embedded age deception until you or anyone else can show me why I shouldn't.
 
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There was something there actually. - Jesus
Yes, Jesus, who you anly care about if He can help you prove the literal inerrancy of Genesis. Do you really think that's the only reason He came to Earth, died on the cross and rose again? That's certainly the "Gospel" you are preaching here.
 
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You can't show that is is deception.
Yes I can. If God created it all a day before by SUPERNATURAL creation, then claiming it was made only y the natural is deception. Here is the math.

[where God's creation is S for supernatural and the natural processes in the rock are N]

S ≠ N


While embedded age certainly is nothing but deception.
There was no age in the 1 day old rock. You just embedded it by mistakenly attributing existence to the natural only
Work on that math equation. In it lies wisdom
 
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Yes, Jesus, who you anly care about if He can help you prove the literal inerrancy of Genesis. Do you really think that's the only reason He came to Earth, died on the cross and rose again? That's certainly the "Gospel" you are preaching here.
The context was what was around after the old testament. Jesus was around. He talked of creation. He sent words to friends from heaven and they also talked about creation - first hand!
 
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Yes I can. If God created it all a day before by SUPERNATURAL creation, then claiming it was made only y the natural is deception. Here is the math.

[where God's creation is S for supernatural and the natural processes in the rock are N]

S ≠ N



There was no age in the 1 day old rock. You just embedded it by mistakenly attributing existence to the natural only
Work on that math equation. In it lies wisdom

That's not an equation in any meaningful sense of the word at all and you know it.

So, once again, you cannot show embedded age is a thing, and thus I will continue to call embedded age a deception until you or anyone else shows me otherwise. But I'm not holding my breath.
 
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Yes, I will tell you then. Yes, that is all you got!

Are we just spouting gibberish now? You're definitely loosing it, so let's back track a bit.

You claimed that science can study the supernatural. I asked you how. Your example of how science can study the supernatural is...?
 
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That's not an equation in any meaningful sense of the word at all and you know it.
Yes and very meaningful! Too bad science use just the N to tell us where it all came from
So, once again, you cannot show embedded age is a thing,
It is a thing in the mind of that scientist looking at that rock the day after it was created by God. The poor guy is convinced that that rock is billions of years old. And for the same reasons you think it is now!
and thus I will continue to call embedded age a deception until you or anyone else shows me otherwise. But I'm not holding my breath.
Adam was not deceived. So you think the rock had stuff in it solely to blow the scientist's mind? If the scientist was smart he would have known better
 
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Yes and very meaningful! Too bad science use just the N to tell us where it all came from

It is a thing in the mind of that scientist looking at that rock the day after it was created by God. The poor guy is convinced that that rock is billions of years old. And for the same reasons you think it is now!

Adam was not deceived. So you think the rock had stuff in it solely to blow the scientist's mind? If the scientist was smart he would have known better

And still doing nothing to show that embedded age isn't a deception.
 
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No I claimed nothing of the sort. It can't.

Remember the math.

S ≠ N

So you don't have anything to show how science can study the supernatural. Amazing that you finally admitted it.
 
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According to the gemological A&E, "they"did not need to be the very first humans to exist

Just out of curiosity, how should a first-grade Sunday school teacher teach her class about Adam and Eve?

"Okay, boys and girls. Today we are going to learn about Adam and Eve.

First off, whenever you see the name "Adam" in Genesis 1, just put the letter "y" and a "dash" before that name.

I'll explain that later.

Make the "y" a lower-case "y".

Then, for Eve, put a lower-case "mt" and upper-case "DNA" ... no spaces ... before her name.

And you should have this:

"y-Adam and mtDNA Eve."

Pencil those letters into your Bible, so you don't forget; or write them out in the margin."


Is that how it should be taught, Frank?
 
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