Objective evidence of God

[CabVet]

God told us through Jesus Christ that he created the universe. Read the Bible.

And the Bible is true because… Oh yeah, it's the word of God.

And who says the Bible is the word of God? Oh yeah, the Bible.

And the Bible is true because… Oh yeah, it's the word of God.

And who says the Bible is the word of God? Oh yeah, the Bible.

 

[Old Ned]

God told us through Jesus Christ that he created the universe. Read the Bible.

I've read the Bible, it tells you lots of things. But if it were all true.... you know what, no.

Present testable evidence. You can't. Period.

 

[Oncedeceived]

And that's as much evidence for the existence of Zeus as it is for the existence of God.

Well first of all I didn't cite it as evidence. Further, it does show that the universe had a beginning and everything that we have now began then. Which is evidence in support of God.

What evidence supports the creation story of Zeus?

 

[ChetSinger]

I think it supplies evidence for Zeus.

Okey-dokey.

 

[CabVet]

Well first of all I didn't cite it as evidence. Further, it does show that the universe had a beginning and everything that we have now began then. Which is evidence in support of God.

What evidence supports the creation story of Zeus?

The same one that you do. There is a universe, the universe began, so Zeus must exist.

 

[Loudmouth]

Well first of all I didn't cite it as evidence. Further, it does show that the universe had a beginning and everything that we have now began then. Which is evidence in support of God.

Why is that evidence in support? Lightning also has a beginning, but it is not caused by a deity.

 

[Oncedeceived]

Any results?.... Nope.

Clearly we all have to agree that there is no testable, objective evidence for god.

32 pages and nothing more than quotes and stories.

A simple "No" would suffice.

Can you provide a valid point against my argument? #194. I would be interested in knowing what logical fault you can find in it.

 

[MarkT]

I say it was all Thor, or was it Zeus?

You could say that and be forgiven. But the fact is God sent His Son to teach us. So we have no excuse. There are many gods but only one is the true God, the one who sent His Son.

 

[Loudmouth]

You could say that and be forgiven. But the fact is God sent His Son to teach us.

That is a claim, not a fact. Please learn the difference.

 

[Subduction Zone]

You could say that and be forgiven. But the fact is God sent His Son to teach us. So we have no excuse. There are many gods but only one is the true God, the one who sent His Son.

And your evidence is?

Objective evidence is the best. Sadly it seems that no Christians have any.

 

[Oncedeceived]

Why is that evidence in support? Lightning also has a beginning, but it is not caused by a deity.

Loudmouth, lightening is part of the universe and is a result thereof. Cause and effect are the laws of physics that rule the universe but the universe and the laws that rule it were not in existence prior to the beginning of the universe.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Can you provide a valid point against my argument? #194. I would be interested in knowing what logical fault you can find in it.

I did not look it up, but I am very certain that you forgot what was requested by the OP, objective evidence.

 

[Loudmouth]

Can you provide a valid point against my argument?

You could offer some objective evidence that God was responsible for the creation of the Universe. "It had a beginning" is only evidence that the Universe had a beginning. Having a beginning in no way indicates that it was created by a deity because we plenty of other things that have a beginning that are not caused by deities.

 

[MarkT]

And the Bible is true because… Oh yeah, it's the word of God.

And who says the Bible is the word of God? Oh yeah, the Bible.

And the Bible is true because… Oh yeah, it's the word of God.

And who says the Bible is the word of God? Oh yeah, the Bible.

That's right. There's no falsehood in God.

 

[Oncedeceived]

The same one that you do. There is a universe, the universe began, so Zeus must exist.

Ok, then what we do with that assertion is take the documentation of Zeus and determine which is more logical and fits with reality between the Christian God and Zeus. So, we agree that the evidence supports that someone outside of the universe is the most logical explanation for the cause of the universe. Good start.

 

[Loudmouth]

That's right. There's no falsehood in God.

Objective evidence please.

 

[Oncedeceived]

You could offer some objective evidence that God was responsible for the creation of the Universe. "It had a beginning" is only evidence that the Universe had a beginning. Having a beginning in no way indicates that it was created by a deity because we plenty of other things that have a beginning that are not caused by deities.

Do we? If everything that ever existed was created when the universe began, then all that was, is or ever will be comes from the universe's beginning.

Regardless of that logic, you are ignoring the fact that everything that we know the physical cause of is based on the laws of physics that again were created at the same time of the universe.

So it doesn't matter if you can find the physical cause of every element on earth, it still has its origin in the first moments of our universe.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Ok, then what we do with that assertion is take the documentation of Zeus and determine which is more logical and fits with reality between the Christian God and Zeus. So, we agree that the evidence supports that someone outside of the universe is the most logical explanation for the cause of the universe. Good start.

If you go that route you will definitely lose. If not to Zeus and Thor then probably to Islam and definitely to the FSM.

 

[Oncedeceived]

I did not look it up, but I am very certain that you forgot what was requested by the OP, objective evidence.

We have been through this before. You can claim that the evidence doesn't support the existence of God, but you can't claim the evidence is not objective. Please, its not that difficult to understand.

 

[Oncedeceived]

If you go that route you will definitely lose. If not to Zeus and Thor then probably to Islam and definitely to the FSM.

Oh really? Make your case.