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I wonder what the odds are on that.What are the odds of a sperm succeeding and you being born and surviving to end up winning the lottery twice in three months? ( New York Man Finds $2.9 Million Winning Lotto Ticket in His Truck - ABC News)
Abiogenesis =
Here's a nice little object lesson to demonstrate the impossibility of abiogenesis occurring.
Write 10[sup]50[/sup] on a board.
This is the number mathematicians say is the limit of probability of something happening.
Anything after that is considered mathematically improbable.
Now take a deck of cards and shuffle them, and write down on a piece of paper what order you think the cards are going to turn up.
What are the odds that you wrote the correct order?
1/52!
That's one in the factorial of 52, or 1 in 52 x 51 x 50 x etc, all the way down to x1.
Now explain that, for the simplest of life to have occurred, 256 proteins would have had to have come together in the correct order, or abiogenesis is a bust.
That is almost five decks of cards.
The odds have now gone from 1/52! to 1/256!.
Or 1 in 256 x 255 x 254 x etc.
Since the limit of probability of something occurring is 1/10[sup]50[/sup], we can easily see that probability laws dictate that abiogenesis is improbable.
And consider this:
Scientists believe the universe is 14.7 billion years old.
That would be 463,579,200,000,000,000 or 463.5792 quadrillion seconds.
But 256! goes off the scale.
This means that, had the proteins started trying to come together in the correct order since time started -- and they didn't, since life has only been around for some 3.8 billion years, according to scientists -- there are not nearly enough seconds in existence to cover the probability of abiogenesis occurring.
So we're not dealing with just "mathematically improbable," we're dealing with "physically impossible."
And that's why I use the Bible, and not probability calculations, to argue against abiogenesis.Probability calculations for abiogenesis are meaningless in determining the chance of life arising from chemicals because ultimately, here we are, made of chemicals.
Indeed I did.No AV, you clearly tried to use probability in your OP.
Not at all.Shot yourself in your foot again eh
Probably not.That argument doesn't work either.
Probably not.
I can't use the Bible to say Jesus walked on water, can I?
Can AV use the Bible to say that the soul that sins shall die?
What were the odds for this particular raindrop to hit my nose at 15:46p.m. today?Here's a nice little object lesson to demonstrate the impossibility of abiogenesis occurring.
Write 10[sup]50[/sup] on a board.
This is the number mathematicians say is the limit of probability of something happening.
Anything after that is considered mathematically improbable.
Now take a deck of cards and shuffle them, and write down on a piece of paper what order you think the cards are going to turn up.
What are the odds that you wrote the correct order?
1/52!
That's one in the factorial of 52, or 1 in 52 x 51 x 50 x etc, all the way down to x1.
Now explain that, for the simplest of life to have occurred, 256 proteins would have had to have come together in the correct order, or abiogenesis is a bust.
That is almost five decks of cards.
The odds have now gone from 1/52! to 1/256!.
Or 1 in 256 x 255 x 254 x etc.
Since the limit of probability of something occurring is 1/10[sup]50[/sup], we can easily see that probability laws dictate that abiogenesis is improbable.
And consider this:
Scientists believe the universe is 14.7 billion years old.
That would be 463,579,200,000,000,000 or 463.5792 quadrillion seconds.
But 256! goes off the scale.
This means that, had the proteins started trying to come together in the correct order since time started -- and they didn't, since life has only been around for some 3.8 billion years, according to scientists -- there are not nearly enough seconds in existence to cover the probability of abiogenesis occurring.
So we're not dealing with just "mathematically improbable," we're dealing with "physically impossible."
Cute.What were the odds for this particular raindrop to hit my nose at 15:46p.m. today?
Mathematically highly improbable, and according to your line of reasoning "physically impossible", and yet it happened.
Cute.
The trick is predicting the exact drop that will hit you at the precise time.
IOW, before it happens.
Cute.
The trick is predicting the exact drop that will hit you at the precise time.
IOW, before it happens.
I don´t think you are in the position to be condescending.Cute.
So your actual point is that it was highly improbable to the point of being impossible to predict abiogenesis before it happened?The trick is predicting the exact drop that will hit you at the precise time. IOW, before it happens.
Cute.
The trick is predicting the exact drop that will hit you at the precise time.
IOW, before it happens.
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