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i don't disagree with the scripture . but i'm not sure why people get the scalpel out and dissect between the gospel and obedience to it .. its christ that saved for sure .. and he tells us HOW to be saved .
if we refuse to do as he says .. we fool ourselves if we think we will be are or are being saved .
i asked before , did i miss the reply ?
are you a naturist ? you seem to gravitate back to that (not very good analogy ) like you have an agenda.
What kind of freedom? THe kind that says I can marry and divorce 4 women for no good reason and then marry #5 because she was the "one God wanted for me from the start?"Have you accepted his love by accepting the freedom which he earned by his death?
I know many on the internet believe they have superior knowledge to the average minister in the pulpit, however.What kind of freedom? THe kind that says I can marry and divorce 4 women for no good reason and then marry #5 because she was the "one God wanted for me from the start?"
Freedom to worship any which way I want, like Cain or Nadab and Abihu?
What kind of freedom? THe kind that says I can marry and divorce 4 women for no good reason and then marry #5 because she was the "one God wanted for me from the start?"
Freedom to worship any which way I want, like Cain or Nadab and Abihu?
The situation was this: the wife had recently married #5 - and it was the minister in the pulpit. She directed the choir. The lead tenor in that choir was hubby #4.The law being written on the converts mind and placed on their heart makes it IMPOSSIBLE for a person to view freedom in Christ as an excuse to divorce four women for no good reason and marry five
The "Love of Christ" is NOT "sloppy agape." It is a covenant love and all covenants have requirements.Do you want to be driven by the law & not by the love of Christ?
The "Love of Christ" is NOT "sloppy agape." It is a covenant love and all covenants have requirements.
Even the Abrahamic covenant which was entirely one sided (God's side) had this stipulation: "Walk before Me, and be blameless." Gen 17.1
We are under the New Covenant which is offered to us by God's grace and is accessed by faith.
And here is the description of the New Covenat:
Jer 31.31 “Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, 32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them,” declares the Lord. 33 “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the Lord, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. 34 They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the Lord, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”
So you are saying we can just "go on sinning?"Under grace sin is not accounted -roma5:13.
So you are saying we can just "go on sinning?"
I am with Paul on this one: NO WAY! May it never be!
Then why did the apostle John writing in the late 90s ad say this?By destroying law by His death (roma7:4) Jesus destroyed sin as sin dead when law is no more (roma7:8).
Where is the principle of sin? It is dead.
Then why did the apostle John writing in the late 90s ad say this?
1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us.
1 John 5:16 If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this.
I submit your definition of sin is not broad enough.
You don't want to go on sinning for you have been born again. The law is in your heart.So you are saying we can just "go on sinning?"
I am with Paul on this one: NO WAY! May it never be!
Paul states the christian has a righteousness before God apart from observing the law ( rom3:20 gal2:21 phil3:9 etc)
Sin is transgression of the law.
Jesus alone is our righteousness before God.
No law means no transgression possible (rom4:15) which means no act could amount to transgression.
I agree with so much of what you write. Can I put something to you?
Law exists, it has not gone away. Thou shalt not steal, kill, commit adultery, covet etc stand. These laws have been written on the Christians mind and placed on their hearts, so the christian in their heart wants to obey them. What has been removed I a law of righteousness for Christ died for our sins. He is our sole righteousness before the father. Therefore the law cannot condemn the christian for Christ died to pay the penalty of our imperfections concerning the law.( our sins)
It is no longer a law written on tablets of stone( an external law) but a law written on tablets of human hearts 2cor3:3( an internal law)
What is in your heart, you in your heart want to obey( you have been born again) therefore Christ paid the penalty of the sins of those who have been born again of the spirit, those who in their hearts want to obey his father
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