Obamagate Timeline...Explains A Lot

[Aldebaran]

And vise versa.

Not really. It's the job of those agencies to serve under the president. Not vice versa. It wouldn't be much different to say that if you don't like your employer, you're not required to do your job. When you're hired for a job, you have to do that job whether you like your boss or not.

 

[USincognito]

Not really. It's the job of those agencies to serve under the president. Not vice versa. It wouldn't be much different to say that if you don't like your employer, you're not required to do your job. When you're hired for a job, you have to do that job whether you like your boss or not.

My point was that if a president goes to war with the intelligence community he should expect some blowback.

 

[Aldebaran]

My point was that if a president goes to war with the intelligence community he should expect some blowback.

The president never declared war (whatever that means) on any agency or community. I believe he'd need to go through Congress to do that anyway.

 

[USincognito]

The president never declared war (whatever that means) on any agency or community.

I that helps you sleep at night...

 

[Aldebaran]

I that helps you sleep at night...

Knowing the truth usually does.

 

[USincognito]

Knowing the truth usually does.

Awww, how cute.

 

[Aldebaran]

Awww, how cute.

Let us know when you're ready to add to the discussion.

 

[USincognito]

Let us know when you're ready to add to the discussion.

Vise versa.

 

[Aldebaran]

Vise versa.

I thought I already put you on my ignore list, yet your post appeared on my screen. I'll get that corrected now.

 

[USincognito]

I thought I already put you on my ignore list, yet your post appeared on my screen. I'll get that corrected now.

Bye Felicia.

 

[bhsmte]

The president never declared war (whatever that means) on any agency or community. I believe he'd need to go through Congress to do that anyway.

What is your view of Trump's public comments about intelligence agencies? Positive or negative?

 

[JGG]

A Timeline of Events for Obamagate | politics

June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied. What’s really interesting is the FISA request was denied. That court has declined just 11 of the more than 33,900 surveillance requests made by the government. The FISA court has denied just .03% of all government FISA requests. The dots are slowly being connected regarding the Obama surveillance scandal, and it’s not looking good for Barack. The evidence is mounting there was a massive conspiracy to hurt President Trump. On June 27th of 2016, Bill Clinton met secretly with Obama Attorney General Loretta Lynch at the Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport. This scandal, with so many unanswered questions, has not been resolved. Lynch did recuse herself from the Clinton email scandal. However new evidence suggests that meeting wasn’t about whether Hillary would go to prison, but one with a more insidious intent. Right after this meeting, Loretta Lynch made her first FISA request to tap Trump’s phones. Let that sink in for a minute. Bill Clinton has a secret meeting with the one person in the world who can, all by herself, derail Trump’s campaign.

October 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration is now monitoring an opposing presidential campaign using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.

January 2017: Buzzfeed/CNN dossier. Buzzfeed releases, and CNN reports, a supposed intelligence “dossier” compiled by a foreign former spy. It purports to show continuous contact between Russia and the Trump campaign, and says that the Russians have compromising information about Trump. None of the allegations can be verified and some are proven false. Several media outlets claim that they had been aware of the dossier for months and that it had been circulating in Washington.

January 2017: Obama expands NSA sharing. As Michael Walsh later notes, and as the New York Times reports, the outgoing Obama administration “expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections....

January 2017: Times report. The New York Times reports, on the eve of Inauguration Day, that several agencies — the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Treasury Department are monitoring several associates of the Trump campaign suspected of Russian ties. Other news outlets also report the exisentence of “a multiagency working group to coordinate investigations across the government,” though it is unclear how they found out, since the investigations would have been secret and involved classified information.

February 2017: Times claims extensive Russian contacts. The New York Times cites “four current and former American officials” in reporting that the Trump campaign had “repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials. The Trump campaign denies the claims — and the Times admits that there is “no evidence” of coordination between the campaign and the Russians. The White House and some congressional Republicans begin to raise questions about illegal intelligence leaks.

March 2017: the Washington Post targets Jeff Sessions. The Washington Post reports that Attorney General Jeff Sessions had contact twice with the Russian ambassador during the campaign...The New York Times, in covering the story, adds that the Obama White House “rushed to preserve” intelligence related to alleged Russian links with the Trump campaign. By “preserve” it really means “disseminate”: officials spread evidence throughout other government agencies “to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators” and perhaps the media as well. It is also worth noting the Obama Administration had set up the meeting with Sessions and the Russian Ambassador last year

There are several other dates and info in-between. This is just the highlights. Pretty damaging for Obama, IMO. I certainly hope Congress investigates. This is the stuff of the Kremlin.

This is the level of reporting we are supposed to be working with? As reported by some guy who guys by the title Saverem, on some Internet forum? This is what passes for credibility?

The New York Times, the newspaper with the most Pulitzers in America is "fake news", but some guy on a message board has the real thing?

I should be careful. I just stated in another thread that Trump was the innovator of the Bleached Orangutan comb-over. I don't actually know for sure that that's true. Someone might use me a real news source.

 

[Aldebaran]

What is your view of Trump's public comments about intelligence agencies? Positive or negative?

If I'm only given the choice between positive and negative, then I'd say generally negative.

 

[bhsmte]

If I'm only given the choice between positive and negative, then I'd say generally negative.

Agree. In fact, he has made some serious claims about the intelligence community, which I have yet to see him substantiate. In acknowledging the reality of human nature, I don't think that will exactly endear him with those agencies.