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Oathkeeper pleads guilty to seditious conspiracy

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I doubt it will make any difference...to you.
btw, why did you put quotes around the word trials>
What?.....you don't believe prosecutors put on trials for public consumption?
 
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What can I say, I know the various Jan 6. investigations pretty well (DOJ including charged defendants, Congressional, open source online, and major media).
Well, you spend far more time on that than I am willing to devote........
 
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Clearly, LOL.:ebil:
Clearly I have more important things to do than scour the internet.....I will let you do that for me, thank you in advance......
 
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Clearly I have more important things to do than scour the internet.....I will let you do that for me, thank you in advance......
ROFLOL. I live to serve.
 
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You don't believe prosecutors put on trials for public consumption?

No, they put on trials because defendants have the constitutional right to trial by jury. Prosecutors would rather just take guilty pleas. The DOJ prosecutors have over 250 of those. All of the trials have been the choice of the defendant.
 
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Well, it most certainly is not 'external'......

Then I don't believe you know or even understand this country. It would be a waste of my time (which I decline to waste) to attempt to explain it to you.......Maybe one of your progressive liberal friends could affirm your belief and save me the trouble of the explanation......

I have had an interest in the US for many decades. Specifically the politics. Thirteen presidents, although Nixon was the one I first one in which I took an interest (but I'm old enough to remember lying in bed wondering if the end was coming during the Cuban crisis). I have been to the States 4 times and the last twice were both for a few months driving many thousands of miles. And my wife and I literally just agreed this morning to get out there again early next year.

So I'm not some spotty faced liberal leftwing neophite who has a bone to pick with America. I love your country. And I've propped up more bars and conversed with more Americans, from NY to the Bay and from Deadwood to Galveston than you could imagine. And hence I love Americans. They are almost always warm hearted and welcoming.

So it was acutely distressing to watch the scenes unfold at the Capitol. It's acutely depressing to see both right and left politicising everything. Where on earth are the reasonable men and women who can get you out of this mess? Where is the attempt to find common ground going to come from? Whatever happened to consensus politics?

I don't understand your country? Well, I don't understand how you could have allowed it to come to this.
 
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I have had an interest in the US for many decades. Specifically the politics. Thirteen presidents, although Nixon was the one I first one in which I took an interest (but I'm old enough to remember lying in bed wondering if the end was coming during the Cuban crisis).
But all that has been through reading and observation not direct experience and there is a world of difference between the two. You want to understand it? Then you gotta live it.
Where on earth are the reasonable men and women who can get you out of this mess?
Around here they are called the silent majority; the ones who don't go out protesting, campaigning, stirring the pot. We are the ones that move and change elections which, if indications are correct, you will get to see come this November.
I don't understand your country? Well, I don't understand how you could have allowed it to come to this.
You come across more worried than we are. I suggest you take a nice deep breath and relax. Everything is going to be just fine. And remember that famous man and his slogan:
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Clearly I have more important things to do than scour the internet.....I will let you do that for me, thank you in advance......

You mean like waste time on a discussion forum arguing about something that you've never bothered to look into with those who actually have paid attention? Yes, clearly a fantastic use of your time.

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You come across more worried than we are. I suggest you take a nice deep breath and relax. Everything is going to be just fine. And remember that famous man and his slogan:

Every American I speak with, including myself, is deeply concerned for America no matter what side of politics they are on. The concern is just not strictly due to January 6th, but the cause for concern definitely includes January 6th for almost all (again both sides of the fence).

Has it occurred to you that maybe you are simply not concerned enough?
 
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You don't believe prosecutors put on trials for public consumption?
You asked me to post videos, did you watch them?

Prosecutors don’t put on trials, the defendant chooses whether they want a trial or not.
 
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Of course some trials are just show trials. That's gone on for years......

Do you believe those who were involved in the Jan 6th activities should be held accountable or not?
It's really hard to tell from your peanut gallery comments.
 
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Around here they are called the silent majority; the ones who don't go out protesting, campaigning, stirring the pot. We are the ones that move and change elections which, if indications are correct, you will get to see come this November.

I'll just note that it's extremely difficult to see oneself as part of the problem. Especially, as has been noticed, when one doesn't think that the problem exists in the first place.

The rest of the world looked on in horror, and your attitude has been 'Nothing to see here...just some folks letting off steam...just some 'show trials' set up by the liberal left'.
 
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I'm going to guess the Feds infiltrated his group, spurred them on, tracked them to DC and then took them down. Lesson: if you meet some hot-shot advocating illegal actions, walk away.
bwahahaha like those idiots needed spurring on bwahaha
 
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I've seen the pattern many times over many years. The Feds have been leaning on this guy for over a year, so the outcome is expected. Whatever - do remember my advise.
Why are you defending a common criminal and avowed seditionist?
 
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Why are you defending a common criminal and avowed seditionist?

Because one persons hate America terrorist is another persons save America patriot.
 
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