Nutty. Car crashes into crowd at "unite the right" white nationalist rally.

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And they didn't get a permit either...



The Nationalist group had a permit to march. Antifah didn't have a permit. One doesn't have to agree with a group to agree they have a right under the constitution to gather.

Your picture evokes the military. The guys I served with would absolutely support the constitution.

I believe your misrepresenting the military.
 
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And they didn't get a permit either...

The difference being that the American soldiers were not a bunch of rabid communists unlike the protesters. Do you think they would fight for our Capitalist society that (Insert idiotic leftists Propaganda here)....
 
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And they didn't get a permit either...

One thing that you are proving here is that violence will not destroy fascism or white supremacists. After all, we pounded both Germany and Italy into the ground as hard as we could, and here we are seventy years later with both philosophies still around.

More recently antifa started stepping up their violent attacks all throughout the presidential campaign and the earlier primaries. What has been the result of that? The alt-right certainly has not been silenced, they've only been emboldened. Even two years ago the rally in Charlottesville would not have received the support that it did, due to social pressure alone. And it's not like the attendees were afraid of being violently attacked; most of them came with the expectation that they would be attacked.

Violent resistance doesn't seem to a do a thing to stop fascism or white supremacists. That's just taking an honest read on history. Advocating violence does have the following effects:
  • Since mobs often do not spend much time thinking about their actions, the violence will inevitably spread beyond the intended targets. There have already been people who were wrongfully identified as being part of the Charlottesville rally and who have been targeted.
  • When violence is the go-to strategy, it makes having a reasonable discussion almost impossible. How can anyone be expected to calmly discuss matters with someone, when the other person has demonstrated that he might start throwing punches or worse in response to the wrong opinions?
  • It heightens division to a degree that is difficult to pull back from. If we are simply discussing the issue, most people can remain neutral or consider both sides. It is possible to have nuance, to agree with people in some ways while condemning much of what they say. But if your position is what is used to figure out whether you should be assaulted, the situation becomes different. You either need to throw your lot in with those seeking violence, merely for your own self-preservation, or refuse to do so, which usually leads to you being considered part of the "enemy." It turns everything into an "us" versus "them" affair, and one that can't be solved by talking, so that violence inevitably escalates more and more and more.
 
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The difference being that the American soldiers were not a bunch of rabid communists unlike the protesters. Do you think they would fight for our Capitalist society that (Insert idiotic leftists Propaganda here)....

My grandfather, an american soldier, fought against fascism for our democratic society, not our capitalist society... fascists are also capitalists.
Heck, even Totalitarianism and Capitalism are hardly mutually exclusive.
China is by far the largest capitalist economy on the planet.

It's democracy that we defend against fascism & totalitarianism.
 
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My grandfather, an american soldier, fought against fascism for our democratic society, not our capitalist society... fascists are also capitalists.

Fascists endorsed socialism, specifically corporatism. This was true of Germany, Italy and Spain. Fascists of the time generally had a great deal of contempt for both Capitalism and Communism, and saw themselves as a "third way" in economics.
 
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My grandfather, an american soldier, fought against fascism for our democratic society, not our capitalist society... fascists are also capitalists.
Heck, even Totalitarianism and Capitalism are hardly mutually exclusive.
China is by far the largest capitalist economy on the planet.

It's democracy that we defend against fascism & totalitarianism.
That was supposed to be an example of the mindless Marxists talking points and wasn't meant to be taken seriously.
 
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Fascists endorsed socialism, specifically corporatism.

Any insight on the difference between Donald Trump's Corporatism and Fascist Corporatism?

I realize I may be asking you to split hairs, but please go ahead, because I haven't yet found a blade sharp enough to split that hair.
 
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Any insight on the difference between Donald Trump's Corporatism and Fascist Corporatism?

I realize I may be asking you to split hairs, but please go ahead, because I haven't yet found a blade sharp enough to split that hair.
There is quite a bit different. Seriously this statement displays a complete ignorance of the economic policy of the Reich. You really need to educate yourself on the 25 point program of the Nazis.
Here is a place to start: National Socialist Program - Wikipedia
 
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How dreadful it is that there exist racists and nationalists, and how dreadful that they and those who oppose them are so willing to resort to violence over the past several days. This is terrorism.

One dead, 19 injured after car plows into protesters during clashes at 'Unite the Right' rally

And to add insult to injury they had to weaponize and destroy a fine piece of American steel doing it.

If you are such a miserable excuse for a human being that you absolutely, positively HAVE to drive a car into a crowd can't you use, I don't know, a Toyota Celica or maybe a Taurus why use a nice sports car like a Dodge Challenger.

Geeeezzz....
 
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White nationalism absolutely is racism, as is black nationalism.

I'm pretty white, and some people might call me a "nationalist" (since I'm not a globalist)... So does that make me a white nationalist?

...You can answer when you come back.
 
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