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Nun Automatically Excommunicated For Approving Abortion
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Bishop Tobin of Rhode Island makes the diocesan Catholic hospital withdraw its membership in the CHA.
Bishop Olmsted announces that a hospital executive, a Sister of Mercy, has been automatically excommunicated because she made a medical decision to hasten the death of an 11 week-old fetus who would have died anyway, taking his/her mother with him/her, days...or weeks...later.
Some bishop in Oregon makes a hospital take the cross off its roof because of some imagined slight (I can't remember what.)
It seems to me as if the crux of the matter is that maybe the bishops think these hospitals are just too darn independent.
They talk about the threat of health care to conscience protections, and they root around in medical records and 1700 page bills looking for a phrase....or a word....or a syllable...that makes it seem that abortion might....or possibly....or perhaps....be financed by people using their own money that they received as government discounts...
The CHA probably wonders why the USCCB didn't hire members of the CHA to assess the health care bill rather than Right to Life lawyers with an agenda--to find something, anything, even a comma that doesn't look right to them.
It's a power struggle, it seems to me. Sadly, it will probably end with the Sisters of Mercy and other Catholic health systems transferring ownership to lay advisory boards because they're just fed up.
And I think that's what happens in most cases of micromanagement. Those being micromanaged start withering and choking and dying. If this continues, it will probablyo be the end of the Catholic hospital system in the US.
Bishop Olmsted announces that a hospital executive, a Sister of Mercy, has been automatically excommunicated because she made a medical decision to hasten the death of an 11 week-old fetus who would have died anyway, taking his/her mother with him/her, days...or weeks...later.
Some bishop in Oregon makes a hospital take the cross off its roof because of some imagined slight (I can't remember what.)
It seems to me as if the crux of the matter is that maybe the bishops think these hospitals are just too darn independent.
They talk about the threat of health care to conscience protections, and they root around in medical records and 1700 page bills looking for a phrase....or a word....or a syllable...that makes it seem that abortion might....or possibly....or perhaps....be financed by people using their own money that they received as government discounts...
The CHA probably wonders why the USCCB didn't hire members of the CHA to assess the health care bill rather than Right to Life lawyers with an agenda--to find something, anything, even a comma that doesn't look right to them.
It's a power struggle, it seems to me. Sadly, it will probably end with the Sisters of Mercy and other Catholic health systems transferring ownership to lay advisory boards because they're just fed up.
And I think that's what happens in most cases of micromanagement. Those being micromanaged start withering and choking and dying. If this continues, it will probablyo be the end of the Catholic hospital system in the US.
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Because we know that we can not kill ppl. If it wasn't a situation where the baby was killed, we would be okay- but the killing, death, murder of was used as a treatment and that's not cool.
Okay-- serving Christ is having faith in what He said, and trusting in God's will.
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It was a situation where a 27 year old mother carrying an 11 week old baby was going to die if she continued to carry the child which would have killed the baby too.
Now, can God intervene? Of course He can. But do we do well to stand back and wait for Him to do so or not do so as He sees fit when we can do something to ensure that at least one person survives?
No.
I believe it to have been God's will for the doctors and nurses to do what was necessary to save the mother's life. A terrible price was paid for that but it was not blithely entered into and morally it is EXACTLY analogous to an ectopic pregnancy.
Now, can God intervene? Of course He can. But do we do well to stand back and wait for Him to do so or not do so as He sees fit when we can do something to ensure that at least one person survives?
No.
I believe it to have been God's will for the doctors and nurses to do what was necessary to save the mother's life. A terrible price was paid for that but it was not blithely entered into and morally it is EXACTLY analogous to an ectopic pregnancy.
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Except when it comes to ectopic pregnancies, I guess. But that's somehow different though I cannot see how.
We're having the same conversation in the other thread. I'm going to vacate this one.
We're having the same conversation in the other thread. I'm going to vacate this one.
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good because i can only handle repeating myself in one thread at a time...
but if you can't see how, that's okay... the Church is there for us when we can't see how... that is why Christ gave it to us.
we are either going to trust that Christ knows better or we aren't.
but if you can't see how, that's okay... the Church is there for us when we can't see how... that is why Christ gave it to us.
we are either going to trust that Christ knows better or we aren't.
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