Nothing but wars and killing

[Davy]

Do you attend church, btw? We are not to forsake assembly...maybe you could "convert" others to your way of thinking if you don't fit in...in the process you may add to your "learning" and find yourself converted...requires humility and the basis of which is that one is to be patient and gentle in discussions of doctrine ...as Apostle Paul commands Timothy.

I see you cannot... stick to the subject either!!! The landscape is Christ's future Millennium reign with His elect, a literal... reign, not a figurative one!

 

[throughfiierytrial]

So many with their own individual, unique interpretations of Revelation etc...

My thoughts exactly. So many do so and come away with a completely different end times scenario than what the Gospels teach as well as being in tension with I Thessalonians 4 and I Corinthians 15 and others. Seems no two interpretations of Revelation are alike on this board...they run ahead and neglect the Scriptures.

 

[throughfiierytrial]

You are definitely full of... yourself!

You want others to believe as YOU do, and you can't even keep the Revelation 20 Scripture about Christ's future LITERAL "thousand years" reign with His elect? How hypocritical.

My you seem full of anger and hatred toward others!

 

[Davy]

My you seem full of anger and hatred toward others!

And you still... cannot stick to the subject, which is about Christ's future literal "thousand years" reign with His elect, here on earth, as written in Revelation 20 and Zechariah 14. There, I gave you yet another proof of that with Zechariah 14.

 

[throughfiierytrial]

I see you cannot... stick to the subject either!!! The landscape is Christ's future Millennium reign with His elect, a literal... reign, not a figurative one!

Sorry, get past square one...Revelation is a revelation and it requires intepretation....there is symbolism, riddles and sayings of the wise in this Revelation. All Biblical concepts...see Proverbs 1:4-6...
for giving prudence to those who are simple,
knowledge and discretion to the young—
5 let the wise listen and add to their learning,
and let the discerning get guidance—
6 for understanding proverbs and parables,
the sayings and riddles of the wise.

 

[Davy]

Sorry, get past square one...Revelation is a revelation and it requires intepretation....there is symbolism, riddles and sayings of the wise in this Revelation. All Biblical concepts...see Proverbs 1:4-6...
for giving prudence to those who are simple,
knowledge and discretion to the young—
5 let the wise listen and add to their learning,
and let the discerning get guidance—
6 for understanding proverbs and parables,
the sayings and riddles of the wise.

Wow! You're so... smart! I would have never... figured that out!

But you still got an 'F' on your homework, because you LEFT the Revelation 20 Scripture as written.

 

[throughfiierytrial]

Sorry, get past square one...Revelation is a revelation and it requires intepretation....there is symbolism, riddles and sayings of the wise in this Revelation. All Biblical concepts...see Proverbs 1:4-6...
for giving prudence to those who are simple,
knowledge and discretion to the young—
5 let the wise listen and add to their learning,
and let the discerning get guidance—
6 for understanding proverbs and parables,
the sayings and riddles of the wise.

I see your frustrations, but they stem from your literalism. You seem to not see the prophecy of heaven in your other citations...probably due to not seeing the term Israel as all true believers...probably see them as literal too.

 

[throughfiierytrial]

Wow! You're so... smart! I would have never... figured that out!

But you still got an 'F' on your homework, because you LEFT the Revelation 20 Scripture as written.

My only real homework is the Scriptures for a life time and to pass it on to unbelievers.

 

[throughfiierytrial]

And you still... cannot stick to the subject, which is about Christ's future literal "thousand years" reign with His elect, here on earth, as written in Revelation 20 and Zechariah 14. There, I gave you yet another proof of that with Zechariah 14.

You are not past the guidelines of Christian conduct and you want me to believe God gave you wisdom of a Revelation?

 

[Davy]

I see your frustrations, but they stem from your literalism. You seem to not see the prophecy of heaven in your other citations...probably due to not seeing the term Israel as all true believers...probably see them as literal too.

God's Word does have some ideas that are symbolic, figurative, allegory, parable, etc., but NOT Christ's future literal "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20, which is also shown with the wicked still existing in the Zechariah 14 Scripture after His return.

Zechariah 14 even reveals that after Christ's future return, some nations will still be rebellious against Him, even though only He will be The KING over all peoples and nations in that future time.

But men's false doctrine of Amillennialism, that says Christ's 1,000 years reign is spiritual only, or figurative, treat all the wicked as being destroyed on the day of Christ's return, and they say that is when God's Eternal Kingdom comes. That's not... what God's Word shows, so that means Amil theory is a Cult.

 

[Davy]

You are not past the guidelines of Christian conduct and you want me to believe God gave you wisdom of a Revelation?

I am right with... the guidelines of TRUE Christian conduct, thank you! Apostle Paul said to REBUKE those who have fallen away to falseness, and that is what you are pushing with your "figurative" thinking of Christ's future "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20...

Rev 20:4-6
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
KJV

Not only does God's written Word reveal that future time is about a literal "thousand years" reign by Christ and His elect, it also reveals that is the time of the "resurrection"!

So now you even show you believe the resurrection is just... figurative.

 

[throughfiierytrial]

God's Word does have some ideas that are symbolic, figurative, allegory, parable, etc., but NOT Christ's future literal "thousand years" reign of Revelation 20, which is also shown with the wicked still existing in the Zechariah 14 Scripture after His return.

Zechariah 14 even reveals that after Christ's future return, some nations will still be rebellious against Him, even though only He will be The KING over all peoples and nations in that future time.

But men's false doctrine of Amillennialism, that says Christ's 1,000 years reign is spiritual only, or figurative, treat all the wicked as being destroyed on the day of Christ's return, and they say that is when God's Eternal Kingdom comes. That's not... what God's Word shows, so that means Amil theory is a Cult.

I believe there is no real means to discuss with you properly on this forum because our conclusions are in such opposition that it would require such a lot of untangling that we shall have to agree to disagree. Besides, I have already spent more time than advisable on this computer after my eye surgery...sorry...will pray for insight for you and continued progression in the faith for all...we shall learn for a lifetime. Godspeed!

 

[Davy]

I believe there is no real means to discuss with you properly on this forum because our conclusions are in such opposition that it would require such a lot of untangling that we shall have to agree to disagree. Besides, I have already spent more time than advisable on this computer after my eye surgery...sorry...will pray for insight for you and continued progression in the faith for all...we shall learn for a lifetime. Godspeed!

I guess you're right, MY conclusions are right with the written Bible Scripture! Yours are with men's doctrine of Amillennialism, a Cult doctrine not written in God's Word. You saved me your philosophical spiritual tirades away from Bible Scripture, thank you for that at least.