Northeast wolves.

[Sammy-San]

In this State we have two varieties. Var. a. Grey Wolf. White or greyish white in winter ; in summer it has short reddish hairs. This is the most common kind. Var. b. Black Wolf. Entirely black, more bulky and powerful than the preceding. Very rare.

Were those Canis lyacon? I read occidentalis was in New york. https://www.fws.gov/midwest/wolf/aboutwolves/pdf/thielwydeveneasternwolfstatusreview8august12.pdf

This article says canis lyacon was in New York, and Connecticut. https://www.fws.gov/midwest/wolf/aboutwolves/pdf/thielwydeveneasternwolfstatusreview8august12.pdf

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Were those Canis lyacon? I read occidentalis was in New york. https://www.fws.gov/midwest/wolf/aboutwolves/pdf/thielwydeveneasternwolfstatusreview8august12.pdf

This article says canis lyacon was in New York. https://www.fws.gov/midwest/wolf/aboutwolves/pdf/thielwydeveneasternwolfstatusreview8august12.pdf

Canis lupus lycaon

 

[Shemjaza]

Canis lupus lycaon

Ah, the famous Dog Wolf Wolf.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Ah, the famous Dog Wolf Wolf.

Yes, one-time nemesis of Man Wise Wise

 

[Sammy-San]

Canis lupus lycaon

Where did you get that from?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Where did you get that from?

Subspecies of wolf...eastern timber wolf= Canis lupus lycaon
Some say it is its own species Canis lycaon like red wolf Canis rufus

 

[Sammy-San]

Subspecies of wolf...eastern timber wolf= Canis lupus lycaon
Some say it is its own species Canis lycaon like red wolf Canis rufus

Documents of the Senate of the State of New York

It means occidentalis being in new york. occidentalis is the great plains wolf, not the eastern wolf.

It also mentions Canis nubilus being in new york.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Documents of the Senate of the State of New York

It means occidentalis being in new york. occidentalis is the great plains wolf, not the eastern wolf.

It also mentions Canis nubilus being in new york.

Nubilus was in Western US (buffalo wolf or Great Plains wolf) and Occidentalis (Mackenzie wolf) in western Canada.

 

[Sammy-San]

Nubilus was in Western US (buffalo wolf or Great Plains wolf) and Occidentalis (Mackenzie wolf) in western Canada.

They werent in the east?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

They werent in the east?

No

 

[Sammy-San]

No

Do you think the wolf with reddish hairs in the summer and the black bulky wolf were lyacon?

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Do you think the wolf with reddish hairs in the summer and the black bulky wolf were lyacon?

that depends...there were black phase red wolves as well black wolves in Western Canada.

 

[Sammy-San]

that depends...there were black phase red wolves as well black wolves in Western Canada.

The colors of the wolves don't unravel this mystery.

 

[Sammy-San]

that depends...there were black phase red wolves as well black wolves in Western Canada.

I read black wolves came from mixing with domestic dogs-thats just an opinion that isnt necessarily true.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I read black wolves came from mixing with domestic dogs-thats just an opinion that isnt necessarily true.

then why are there black phase squirrels LOL?

 

[Sammy-San]

then why are there black phase squirrels LOL?

It could be that those black wolves were an extinct unnamed subspecies.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

It could be that those black wolves were an extinct unnamed subspecies.

Doubt it. Is this a hobby of yours?

 

[Sammy-San]

Doubt it. Is this a hobby of yours?

It's fun to have an answer for stuff.

 

[Sammy-San]

Doubt it. Is this a hobby of yours?

Short reddish hairs in the summer-that doesn't prove it was a red wolf.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Short reddish hairs in the summer-that doesn't prove it was a red wolf.

Never said it did! Coyotes and Eastern wolves also can have a buff/reddish tint to it too