Non – stop engine

[TemperateSeaIsland]

My only real nitpick is that it is not an engine as you can not draw work off of it but still, it's a very neat toy. Could you post a video of it in action? I'm curious to see the range in motion.

 

[thinhnghiem]

My only real nitpick is that it is not an engine as you can not draw work off of it but still, it's a very neat toy. Could you post a video of it in action? I'm curious to see the range in motion.

I really want to do that. But the size of a video clip will exceed allowed limit of this forum. Could you offer me a way to do?

Thanks

 

[Nabobalis]

I really want to do that. But the size of a video clip will exceed allowed limit of this forum. Could you offer me a way to do?

Thanks

Youtube.

 

[pgp_protector]

I really want to do that. But the size of a video clip will exceed allowed limit of this forum. Could you offer me a way to do?

Thanks

How to upload videos - YouTube Help

 

[thinhnghiem]

Hi all,

My total posts here is not enough to be able to post link here

Temporarily I send the URL to TemperateSeaIsland by private mesage

In there you can observe the orbit of the tail of the dragonfly. It is down by the attractive force between magnets and up again...

There is incorrect info in my first post. The upward pole of the medium magnet ( black and round in the screenshot) must be different from the downward pole of the tiny one (i.e. north to south, or south to north) to result in attraction force between them

 

[TemperateSeaIsland]

Here is the vid

Non stop engine model - YouTube

 

[Nabobalis]

Does look like it the amount of movement decays.

 

[Radagast]

Does look like it the amount of movement decays.

It looked stationary to me at the end, although there was a lot of camera movement.

And the movement that did exist early on seemed to be an effect of minor air currents -- which the wings make the toy sensitive to.

I doubt the magnet was even doing anything much. There doesn't seem to be any of the gravity/magnetism interaction that you get here:

Romp - YouTube

The dragonfly does look nice, though.

 

[DennisTate]

Do a search for Stanley Meyer hydrogen fuel vehicle to take a look at another angle on this idea.

 

[Eudaimonist]

The only way to create a "perpetual motion machine" is to find some sneaky way of introducing energy into the system. That can't effectively be done with a stationary magnet, and many have tried.

If you think you can do this without energy, you're working against the behavior of the universe (i.e. the "laws of physics"). The best you can hope for is a long-lasting effect.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[thinhnghiem]

To Nabobalis and Radagast,

I don't say about the movement of the wings. The movement I mentioned to belongs to the tail. It does not stop permanently. Instead, it is slow down to a threshold, and remains this status forever, as long as the magnet is still there

 

[Nabobalis]

To Nabobalis and Radagast,

I don't say about the movement of the wings. The movement I mentioned to belongs to the tail. It does not stop permanently. Instead, it is slow down to a threshold, and remains this status forever, as long as the magnet is still there

We know, the tail slows down and all you have left is a very very low friction system that bounces very weakly off the magnet. There is nothing here, I'm sorry.

 

[thinhnghiem]

We know, the tail slows down and all you have left is a very very low friction system that bounces very weakly off the magnet. There is nothing here, I'm sorry.

Not too bad as you said. When magnet is removed, the tail is motionless. Otherwise, it fluctuates slightly. Yes, I agree that its intensity is not high, but at least it does vibrate, and it keeps on without stopping

 

[Nabobalis]

Not too bad as you said. When magnet is removed, the tail is motionless. Otherwise, it fluctuates slightly. Yes, I agree that its intensity is not high, but at least it does vibrate, and it keeps on without stopping

It will stop. Given enough time. There is nothing to extract from this system.

 

[FrenchyBearpaw]

God did it

Sent from my tablet using CF

What'd god do?

 

[thinhnghiem]

Hi again,

Few months ago I had chance to post topic here about a non stop engine model. Now it has been improved and works well, and I would like to introduce my new model here.

1. Tools and facilities:
- The main component of this model is a wooden toy with dragonfly shape. Its head is a rectangle which is curved upward, with long tail
- A sharp pillar
- A medium sizes magnet (In attached screenshot it is the round and white piece)
- Some tiny magnets

2. Model
- Stick the tiny magnets under the tail of dragonfly shaped specimen. The gravity of magnets make this specimen settles down toward the tail.
- Then, touch the sharp peak of the rectangle head of the specimen very slightly into the top of the pillar. It makes the balance status of this dragonfly toy is very unstable. It is very easy to drop down as seen in attached screenshot
- Put the medium sized magnet vertically and so close to the tail of the specimen so that their facing poles are NOT the same (i.e. north to south or south to north)
- Keep the whole system in an insolated room, with all doors and windows are closed to prevent air wing influence.

3. Operation:
- The attraction force between 2 magnets makes the tail of the specimen is pulled down slightly, before it is up again. Then a new period starts with the up and down movement of the specimen tail, again and again etc.
- The position of the medium sized magnet is adjustable so that it can give best result to the movement of the specimen. If the distance between magnets is so far, the force intensity is so weak to result in movement. Otherwise, the strong attraction force from the medium sized will also prevent the specimen from moving.

I let my model there overnight to make sure that there is no stopping. And luckily it does not stop until now.

I post my article here so that any interesting individual can follow and replicate my experiments.


All of my expectation that you can contact me and replicate my experiment

Thinh from Vietnam

 

[Strathos]

I was wondering, could the universe itself be considered a perpetual motion machine? According to cosmologists it will keep expanding infinitely.

 

[BarryDesborough]

Dears,

I am investigating a way to make an engine that can run continuously. Currently, my result is so positive.

1. Tools and facilities:
- The main component of this model is a wooden toy with dragonfly shape. Its head is a rectangle which is curved upward, with long tail
- A sharp pillar
- A medium sizes magnet (In attached screenshot it is the round and black piece)
- A tiny magnet

2. Model
- Stick the tiny magnet under the tail of dragonfly shaped specimen. The gravity of magnet makes this specimen settles down toward the tail.
- Then, touch the sharp peak of the rectangle head of the specimen very slightly into the top of the pillar. It makes the balance status of this dragonfly toy is very unstable. It is very easy to drop down as seen in attached screenshot
- Put the medium sized magnet at the base of the pillar so that its upward pole is the same as the downward pole of the tiny one (i.e. south to south, or north to north), and they are face to face as shown in attached screenshot
- Keep the whole system in an insolated room, with all doors and windows are closed to prevent air wing influence.

3. Operation:
- The attraction force between 2 magnets makes the tail of the specimen is pulled down slightly, before it is up again. Then a new period starts with the up and down movement of the specimen tail, again and again etc.
- The position of the medium sized magnet is adjustable so that it can give best result to the movement of the specimen. If the distance between magnets is so far, the force intensity is so weak to result in movement. Otherwise, the strong attraction force from the medium sized will also prevent the specimen from moving.

I let my model there overnight to make sure that there is no stopping. And luckily it does not stop until now.

I post my article here so that any interesting individual can follow and replicate my experiments.


All of my expectation that you can contact me and replicate my experiment

Thinh from Vietnam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perpetual_motion

 

[Hopes]

Dears,

I am investigating a way to make an engine that can run continuously. Currently, my result is so positive.

1. Tools and facilities:
- The main component of this model is a wooden toy with dragonfly shape. Its head is a rectangle which is curved upward, with long tail
- A sharp pillar
- A medium sizes magnet (In attached screenshot it is the round and black piece)
- A tiny magnet

2. Model
- Stick the tiny magnet under the tail of dragonfly shaped specimen. The gravity of magnet makes this specimen settles down toward the tail.
- Then, touch the sharp peak of the rectangle head of the specimen very slightly into the top of the pillar. It makes the balance status of this dragonfly toy is very unstable. It is very easy to drop down as seen in attached screenshot
- Put the medium sized magnet at the base of the pillar so that its upward pole is the same as the downward pole of the tiny one (i.e. south to south, or north to north), and they are face to face as shown in attached screenshot
- Keep the whole system in an insolated room, with all doors and windows are closed to prevent air wing influence.

3. Operation:
- The attraction force between 2 magnets makes the tail of the specimen is pulled down slightly, before it is up again. Then a new period starts with the up and down movement of the specimen tail, again and again etc.
- The position of the medium sized magnet is adjustable so that it can give best result to the movement of the specimen. If the distance between magnets is so far, the force intensity is so weak to result in movement. Otherwise, the strong attraction force from the medium sized will also prevent the specimen from moving.

I let my model there overnight to make sure that there is no stopping. And luckily it does not stop until now.

I post my article here so that any interesting individual can follow and replicate my experiments.


All of my expectation that you can contact me and replicate my experiment

Thinh from Vietnam

All perpetual motion machines fail because of friction. Now if there was a way to get it down to absolute zero it might work. So far I don't think science can do that.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

What you describe is a rudimentary form of a perpetual motion machine. I can tell you, without even looking at the picture or reading more than 5 sentences from your OP, that it will not work.

Hi Freodin,

My guessing is that the movement originated from the attraction force of the magnets, and the hooking up of the toy.

Actually, as I sated in my post, I put it in isolated room and it vibrated slightly for whole day. It does not stop until now. That's the reason I posted it here for any explanation, or any body can try again.

Thanks

Bolding mine.

That is the key point - it stopped. It doesn't matter if it stops a minute after you start it, or a year. The key is, that it will always stop. There is absolutely no way you can make such a machine (in theory or in practice) which will indefinitely put out more energy than you put in, since this is what you will need to make a perpetual motion machine.