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Everything secular is suspect, all the time, until tested and proven.The interesting part about this, is that secular science once again can give credence to the Bible, are my numbers therefore still suspect?
The phrase “fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail” does not mean that the Flood was only 15 cubits deep, for the phrase is qualified by the one which immediately follows: “and the mountains were covered.”
Whenever anyone believes what is false as a premise, they will defend it 'to the end' if YHWH does not grant that the veil be removed.
Since YHWH says clearly all that He Purposed, Planned, Directed and Accomplished,
anyone who denies YHWH or 'changes' His Word [to accommodate false teachings] must be wrong. (well, that's understood from the start, anyway) ...
You are correct about the implications... Simple math.
Let’s try to put that in another perspective. The Atlantic Ocean is about 80,000,000 miles³. That means, there needed to be more water than could be contained by ten Atlantic Oceans to cover the whole Earth. If this is indeed the case as you imply, where did the 250% extra water go?
Regards, GBTG
Look at just two assumptions you begin with:
1. Mountains the same before the flood.
2. Earth the same size before the flood.
What in the Bible or science supports mountains or the Earth being smaller than it is currently?
Regards, GBTG
@Aman777
No offense brother but your interpretation is so far removed from accurate I know not what to say. At first I was amuzed but now I am truly disheartened. I hope you don’t share this view anywhere but on these forums! Please do not give a rebuttal trying to demonstrate this wild interpretation of scripture as anything remotely Biblical. I have seen your reasoning and scriptural references prior and need not read another ludicrous adaptation of the Bible. I respect that you feel strongly about your interpretation, but you and I will never agree.
Regards, GBTG
What in the Bible or science supports mountains or the Earth being smaller than it is currently?
Regards, GBTG
You do not accept the explanation science has for this?There are seashells on top of
every mountain
Anstey is incorrect, just add up the years between births from Arphaxad born two years after the flood to Abraham. All that matters is how many years an individual lived before the next in the genealogical line is born then how many years this newest individual lived before the next in the genealogical line is born, etc, etc, etc, etc.
How many years each individual actually lived before death is inconsequential.
Abraham was born 292 years after the flood, there is no disputing this, I don't know where Anstey is getting this addition 58 years from.
Eber named his son Peleg for the division of the earth that occurred before Peleg was born during Eber's lifetime.
See Genesis 10:25
Now lets do the math according to Genesis 11:10-19
The Flood is Year Zero.
+2 Arphaxad is born
+35 Salah is born
+30 Eber is born
+34 Peleg is born (in whom was named for the division of the earth a la tower of Babel)
What does that add up to... 111 years. The tower of Babel occurred 111 years after the Flood.
It had to be a local flood!
Abraham was born approximately 292 years after the Flood.
What verse are you talking about?Another question is what did the OT writers mean by ‘the whole world’?
What verse are you talking about?
What in the Bible or science supports mountains or the Earth being smaller than it is currently?
Regards, GBTG
Another question is what did the OT writers mean by ‘the whole world’? As far as I’ve been able to find out all references, maybe apart from poetic phrasing in the psalms, to the world mean the ANE, as in the area inhabited by the peoples of the OT, roughly stretching from the Black Sea area down to the Persian Gulf and North Africa.
The word you are translating "whole" actually is the world all. And it qualifies the heavens or the atmosphere not the earth. We are told that the windows of heaven were opened at this time. This would have had an effect on all of the atmosphere of all of the earth.Genesis 7:17-ff, vs 19 in particular
Then refute me Scripturally if you can. i can easily refute your religion since it's really easy to refute an ancient goat herder's religion, which many THINK is true. Only the people of the last days, with the increased knowledge of our time, can possibly understand Genesis according to the Lord.
Dan 12:4 ¶ But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Is your view true Scripturally, Scientifically and Historically...or is it a half truth?
Your forgot about the flood which totally destroyed Adam's entire world. (Kosmos) ll Peter 3:6 The Scoffers of the last days make the same mistake.
There in lies the problem! I think you would agree that no scriptural rebuttal on my part would be considered accurate, because your mind is already made up as to what is correct because "you" are enlightened and know better. Espousing nonsense then and asking for rebuttal is like saying "1+1=egg, go ahead and prove me wrong."
God would not tell Moses to write Genesis so that only a few with "increased knowledge" could understand. Unless you think God to be a prankster, or chose only you, or select few to share His insights...
Goat herder or not I can recognize 1+1=egg as nonsense! Likewise, I understand that God intended the book of Genesis to everyone for salvation. Unless my "thinking" is wrong?
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