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Would you rape a woman if you believed God told you to?
God would not tell any of us to rape someone. The suggestion is perverse.
Excuse me, but what are you doing here anyway? Are you aware of the rule that only the OP is the only non-Christian allowed to reply in the Exploring Christianity forum? The Philosophy section is more geared for open debate.
It's quite interesting that nobody bothered with my presence in this thread until I asked this question. I think it just shows how morally disgusting your Bible is, and you know this, so you want to have me taken out of this thread. Did I make you squirm?
I know I am probably the worst person here, but i guess you don't know that. Even so What makes you think I haven't?Would you rape a woman if you believed God told you to?
I know I am probably the worst person here, but i guess you don't know that. Even so What makes you think I haven't?
What happened? You can ask a shock value question, yet i am not allowed to provide a "shock value" reply? How does that not dip into hypocrisy?OK, I think I'm done with this thread.
God would not tell any of us to rape someone. The suggestion is perverse.
Hope this clears things up a little.
GrayAngel said:and He actually considered the crime worthy of death.
again, No. I Identified the difference between Murder and putting someone to death several times now. Murder is always wrong.drich0150, your sense of morality is really skewed. You said you would murder,
And putting babies to death so they can be harvested for T cell research.. What is that if not sick?commit genocide, rape and own slaves just because God commanded you. That is just sick.
What you have failed to acknowledge is the actually commands of Christ and how I have taken these command to their extreme end.. To love the Lord God with all of my Being and to love my neighbor as myself.You are the type of person that if you were born into Islam you would strap bombs to your chest, if you were born in 1480 Spain you would have burnt people at the stake, if you were born in Nazi Germany you would have been involved in the death of millions of Jews.
Thank you. If being a luke warm member of society is what pop culture demands then I am proud to be labeled a fanatic for Christ.You are impressionable and more easily controllable than I. You represent the type of person that takes religion from innocent "social club" to fanatical cult.
Pop culture is flawed... but even it would never condone the acts that you said you would partake in.
said the slave.Slavery is evil, and will always be evil.
actually Racism is not even identified as a sin.Racism is evil, and will always be evil.
neither is thisSexism is evil,
nor this.and will always be evil. Genocide is evil, and will always be evil.
as I have pointed out Even though I am willing to go through the depths of Hell for my God, He does not want that for me or "us." So I am indeed content in living with in the parameters He has set fourth. So you see their is no need for change because even with in the parameters of popular culture I am well with in it's bounds.There is no excuse for these and the other acts you said you would do if God willed it. This is exactly why religion is evil, it's people like you. I hope you can change your mind about the things you have said here.
I'm sorry but it doesn't. The Bible is the WORD of GOD, he has ultimate say in what is finalized in his book. And in this book we have numerous testimonies of murder and rape. Here's one: Deuteronomy 20:10-14.
Christians would often sack cities in the "name of the Lord", and then "take wives as their own". I'm pretty sure when a random guy comes in, kills your husband, and takes you as a wife to have children with...the sex isn't consensual.
True! He has the poor, innocent rape victim tortured to death, awesome! Deuteronomy 22:23-24
again, No. I Identified the difference between Murder and putting someone to death several times now. Murder is always wrong.
And putting babies to death so they can be harvested for T cell research.. What is that if not sick?
What you have failed to acknowledge is the actually commands of Christ and how I have taken these command to their extreme end.. To love the Lord God with all of my Being and to love my neighbor as myself.
That said, To me it sounds as if you are projecting you newly found insecurities on to me. I have identified all of these qualities in great detail in your words and thoughts. and now somehow they have "magically" become my attributes with one paragraph of baseless conjecture.. Regroup and Try again.
Thank you. If being a luke warm member of society is what pop culture demands then I am proud to be labeled a fanatic for Christ.
As such your life of privilege is due to all of the things you have deemed "evil." Because you happily benefit from all of this, that in turn makes you just as evil.
And raze, killing a person for adultery (consensual or not) is EVIL.
I don't know if your married or not but if you are, put yourself in that position. Imagine that someone rapes your wife, if we go by the Bible then she is to be stoned to death.
I'm sorry but it doesn't. The Bible is the WORD of GOD, he has ultimate say in what is finalized in his book. And in this book we have numerous testimonies of murder and rape. Here's one: Deuteronomy 20:10-14.
Christians would often sack cities in the "name of the Lord", and then "take wives as their own". I'm pretty sure when a random guy comes in, kills your husband, and takes you as a wife to have children with...the sex isn't consensual.
This is God's book, not man's. That is something I think should be respected by Christians. OT God = NT God.
True! He has the poor, innocent rape victim tortured to death, awesome! Deuteronomy 22:23-24
I am also done here.... it's repulsive to see such barbarism coming from "good" Christian people.
This is just one more reason I'm glad I left Christianity.
So Abortion is murder? Then why is it the popular thing to do when the baby is not wanted?I don't care who you talk to. 99.9999% of people will agree that killing a baby is murder. Again, if you had a child you would understand this.
How can you say that when you have openly admitted that your "morals" are dictated to you by pop culture?I have made it clear, several times, that I am against that. I believe the discussion here was about personal morals, not the morals of the masses. Don't confuse the two.
What are you even talking about? You have never even pointed to one Scripture in the Christian Doctrine that dictates any of these things are or have been commanded.I'm sure synonyms of love are going to be rape, genocide, murder, and slavers... oh wait, they aren't.
I know what I said, I also said that because we are told to not do these things then that is what I do. I also remember telling you that because we are told to love our lord God with all of our being and to love our neighbor as myself then this is the focus of my efforts.. But it is evident your need to win an argument supersedes the need for you to represent my position accurately.You need to go back and read the post where you said you would do all of the horrible things we are talking about... particularly post 113.
Do you believe you are the only one who has served his country?I wouldn't even give you the compliment of being called a member of society. You should be an outcast. People like you don't deserve the Constitutional rights I fight for every day.
who says you? who are you?I'm sorry that your racist, sexist, homophobic, genocidal, jealous, murderous, child killing, slave condoning God doesn't define his core attributes as sin. They are sin.
again who says you?They are evil. And they are wrong.
How do you define evil? is it tied to your emotions?You can put whatever label you want on them, they are wrong. I mean, am I the only person here that thinks this way? Am I the only one here who thinks all of the above is pure evil?
Yet you still enjoy a life style that is the direct result of everything you have just condemned. that is like being apart of the wall street protests and then driving home in the Bentley your portfolio paid for. You are enjoying a way of life that millions died and suffered to provide. How is this not from the deepest level of hypocrisy?I understand that America has done a lot of evil things in the past. Was I there? No. Could I have possibly stopped them from doing those things? No. I am here, now, in 2011. I can't go back in time and stop all of the injustices done.
Yes. you can do what your "brothers" have done...I am over 50% native American, so I know what was done to us. I know that American soldiers raped, pillaged, and plundered the land we once owned. Was it right? No. Again, can I do anything about it?
apparently not all who share your blood line think in the same way.What's done is done, and the only thing we can do is move on from it.
apparently you have never been poor or spent any real time with them, trying to provide them with their basic needs. Because if you had then you would see the foolishness in this statement:The poor are not slaves...the poor are the poor. Do I have sympathy for them? Yes. Do I donate my time and money to help them? Yes.
Perhaps it would be better stated to say the "poor" are not slaves in the colonial north American sense of the term.But they are not slaves.
Racism is not alway bound to the Idea of Hate. racism can simply mean discrimination or class distinction or so say the dictionary. (look it up before you speak it will save us time)Racism is not a class distinction. Racism is hate.
please...Specifically hating someone because they are a different skin color than someone else. If you hate a man because he is white it does not matter if he is poor, middle class, or rich. You are hating him because of his skin color, and not because of his social status.
You are really grasping at straws here. Show me one nation that had established itself as a power and had not embraced a "baby boomer" policy.. this can only happen if women are encouraged to full fill their God given roles.. Why do they do this? Why did we do this after WWII? What event would spawn the need for so many people? Why would a nation need so many young men after establishing itself as a power?Sexism, is not a vital part of the construction of a nation. Sexism has been proven to be very helpful for the construction and development of any nation. There are physical differences between the genders, but a woman's thoughts and opinions are just as valid as a mans. For example, 99.999999% of women will say that killing a baby is evil... see, already a woman's opinion is better than yours.
If I were to agree with that, WHICH I DON'T, it doesn't matter if you happily benefit or not. If you benefit from it, you are evil... which would make you evil. Hmmmm...
But you can indeed change what you do now, and if you really are 1/2 Indian then you have options others do not.Again, can I change the past? Nope. Would I if I could.
That is my point. What you deem as "sins" really aren't. they are only sins to the self absorbed. and since you are not willing to give up anything that brings you comfort, then I guess you are working with the correct "sin" list.Yes indeed. Just because I enjoy electricity, washing machines, the football games that are currently on, and AC doesn't make me evil. If we were to go by your reasoning, then mankind is doomed to be evil forever. I refuse to be judged by the "sins of my fathers"
Not even close.I am not being hypocritical here. I never said I wanted to leave America. I am not condemning the country for it's past actions. Like humanity, morality has evolved over time. What once was common practice (slavery, objectifying of women, human sacrifice) is now considered evil. Purchasing a human being for manual labor and no pay is evil. Saying that women are inferior to men, and that they should know their role, is evil. The slaughter of humans in the name of a deity, is evil.
People like you will continue to slow the evolution of human morality because of your adherence to Bronze Age scribbling.
And raze, killing a person for adultery (consensual or not) is EVIL. I don't know if your married or not but if you are, put yourself in that position. Imagine that someone rapes your wife, if we go by the Bible then she is to be stoned to death. And before you give some crappy excuse that we are not under the law any more, remember: Matthew 5:17-20
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