Noah's Ark (2)

[Inan3]

Anyway. Whether or not I'm a Muslim, the reasoning still holds.

And while I got your point ... it's wrong reasonig. One is not the same as the other.

I KNOW you don't believe but that doesn't take away the fact that there IS only ONE God. That only keeps you from Him.

 

[Jazer]

So when you give up your world possessions and follow the lord, does food magically come to you? Or do you have to beg and/or rely on donations?

I got more stuff then I would ever know what to do with. Yes food magically comes to me and it seems to multiply itself. It try to give it away, but it seems that the more I give the more I get back in return and I end up with more then I had before. It's very common for us to invite 50 or 60 people over for dinner. Only it seems like they do not eat that much and end up taking most of it home with them.

 

[Insane_Duck]

I got more stuff then I would ever know what to do with. Yes food magically comes to me and it seems to multiply itself. It try to give it away, but it seems that the more I give the more I get back in return and I end up with more then I had before. It's very common for us to invite 50 or 60 people over for dinner. Only it seems like they do not eat that much and end up taking most of it home with them.

Yeah. Maybe we should ship some of that off to Africa, eh?

 

[Insane_Duck]

And while I got your point ... it's wrong reasonig. One is not the same as the other.

I KNOW you don't believe but that doesn't take away the fact that there IS only ONE God. That only keeps you from Him.

I KNOW you don't believe in Allah, but that doesn't take away the fact that there IS only ONE God. That only keeps you from Him

 

[visa]

You usually get to keep the god that gets to you first, from there on in he's the one.

 

[SkyWriting]

So how come the fish didn't die?

Likely most did. As you can surmise from the story only 2 or 4 of each are needed. Assuming God did cause the flood I can see how He could preserve 2 of any needed species in any temperature at any salinity needed. Some species do move from salt to fresh water today. Maybe the ones chosen to survive by GOD had that ability as well. That would be a smart move on God's part. I think He's that smart anyway.

 

[SkyWriting]

i bet he could also make special water that only drowns humans but no other life. or simply put air bubbles around all the other animals, and that the arc was just a test and that the other animals didn't really die except for the humans. apologetics at its finest.

But, if you claim it happened, you may as well claim the rest of the facts to be true as written as well. And work from there.

 

[SkyWriting]

You do realize that Skaloop and Orogeny are not really trying to prove Noah's Ark; they are showing that the people who get their information from Answers in Genesis and such-like have no imagination and little understanding of science. Off the tops of their heads in less than 24 hours they have come up with more convincing explanations than the YECs top experts have been able to in fifty years. Of course it's not perfect, it doesn't need to be. It just needs to be plausible.

Once you remove the assumption that it didn't happen, it's easier to see the likelihood that it did happen as written. Actually, the whole Bible is like that.

 

[Orogeny]

Once you remove the assumption that it didn't happen, it's easier to see the likelihood that it did happen as written. Actually, the whole Bible is like that.

Oops. I think you put the word 'assumption' where you meant to write 'evidence'. Either way, you're demonstrably wrong.

 

[SkyWriting]

You usually get to keep the god that gets to you first, from there on in he's the one.

That would be "Science" for me. But he looked silly with no clothes on.
So I went searching for one who wasn't such an Egomaniac.

 

[SkyWriting]

Oops. I think you put the word 'assumption' where you meant to write 'evidence'. Either way, you're demonstrably wrong.

You are free to offer details on any points you's like to demonstrate.
"Evidence" is a fair word as well. But "assumption" is much more accurate.

 

[SkyWriting]

Density stratification based on salinity (or temperature) is quite common. In fact, it was well demonstrated on the TV show Planet Earth.

What would keep the fish from rising into the fresh water layers is that they would be uncomfortable in fresh water, so they would swim back to a level at which they were comfortable. It is my understanding that swim bladders can be emptied and filled, and is actively controlled by the fish.

There is are only two fish to save. Two of any species that God would need to continue what ever lines of species He considers needed. And He designed them, so He would know.

In experiments, "Salinity stratification was enhanced under high flow condition" for those who worry about mixing, or Gods ability to foresee the conditions of anything.

 

[SignOfGod]

There is are only two fish to save. Two of any species that God would need to continue what ever lines of species He considers needed. And He designed them, so He would know.

So God NEEDED two of any species otherwise he would have been beaten, your God must be the most pathetic God any man has ever created, you talk as if you are about 12, are you 12?

In experiments, "Salinity stratification was enhanced under high flow condition" for those who worry about mixing, or Gods ability to foresee the conditions of anything.

Rubbish.

 

[SkyWriting]

So God NEEDED two of any species otherwise he would have been beaten, your God must be the most pathetic God any man has ever created, you talk as if you are about 12, are you 12?

Rubbish.

No, but he choose 2. He didn't need any at all. He does a lot of real things for symbolic reasons.

And you sound like a 13 year old trying to egg on a 12 yo in a fight.

 

[Orogeny]

In experiments, "Salinity stratification was enhanced under high flow condition" for those who worry about mixing, or Gods ability to foresee the conditions of anything.

In this publication, the salinity stratification that is being dealt with is upstream seawater incursion into a freshwater environment during rising tides. This is a very ephemeral stratification induced by tidal amplification in a small space (a river mouth), where stratification only occurs because of the rapid upstream progression of dense sea water. Were this salinity stratification allowed to hang around for more than a few hours, it would likely disperse. This example is in no way comparable to basin-scale salinity stratification, particularly when that basin would be Earth-sized.

 

[Orogeny]

You are free to offer details on any points you's like to demonstrate.
"Evidence" is a fair word as well. But "assumption" is much more accurate.

If you went back and read this thread, you'd see many points made that cannot be reconciled by flood geology.

But I'll just offer up the prevalence of tidal flat deposits throughout the rock record as evidence that it was not deposited by a global flood. One simple point that has no answer (that I've seen) from flood advocates. And as we know, all it take is one.

 

[Orogeny]

Rubbish.

The science he quotes is fine, but it doesn't apply to this problem.

 

[SkyWriting]

If you went back and read this thread, you'd see many points made that cannot be reconciled by flood geology.

But I'll just offer up the prevalence of tidal flat deposits throughout the rock record as evidence that it was not deposited by a global flood. One simple point that has no answer (that I've seen) from flood advocates. And as we know, all it take is one.

It only takes one explanation then:
I didn't say that it was deposited by "the flood".
End of problem.

 

[Orogeny]

It only takes one explanation then:
I didn't say that it was deposited by "the flood".
End of problem.

Then what was?

 

[SkyWriting]

Then what was?

We don't know
-When the food occurred
-What effect it had on the land masses
-or what the dynamics of the water movements were.

There is mention of "waters of the deep" being broken up
plus rain for a certain time. But this is a local description
of the rain. In my town it's not unusual to have my windshield
wipers working and drive into sunshine and dry roads.

So we really don't have enough data. "Biblical Flood Geology" is even more fictitious than mainstream science-fiction-geology is.