Noah way?

[2PhiloVoid]

Instead of quoting the lyrics that fed the insanity, I'll quote some that references it after the fact:

I got the revolution blues, I see bloody fountains
And ten million dune buggies comin' down the mountains
Well, I hear that Laurel Canyon is full of famous stars
But I hate them worse than lepers and I'll kill them in their cars

Reading about the "interpretation" of Revelation that lead to the events referenced in those lyrics did not want me to "know the rest" or take it seriously.

I love Neil Young---he was a childhood radio staple. But, there's a reason I'm anti-Revolutionary myself, and in all that I could ever say here on CF, it should be hyper-clear that I could never be a 'Manson fan.' The book of Revelation also isn't similar to his thought in any respect, so implying that it is without academic discernment is a little disconcerting to me when I see someone intelligent such as yourself imply there is any sort of insinuated similarity.

 

[Hans Blaster]

I love Neil Young---he was a childhood radio staple.

I didn't listen to much as a child, but I've been trying to make up for it for the last 1/3 century.

But, there's a reason I'm anti-Revolutionary myself, and in all that I could ever say here on CF, it should be hyper-clear that I could never be a 'Manson fan.'

I find Manson and his cult fascinating, but I am hardly a 'fan'.

The book of Revelation also isn't similar to his thought in any respect, so implying that it is without academic discernment is a little disconcerting to me when I see someone intelligent such as yourself imply there is any sort of insinuated similarity.

I'm not sure what my academic training is supposed to make of an apocalyptic religious text, or any text, religious or not. (I did have a lit class in college, but that was a long time ago.) As a matter of education I have a B.S. from the liberal arts college. The same degree that the CS students and pre-med students were taking. My studies beyond that put aside such fuzzy things to consider the nature of physical reality.

As for the text, I have been aware of many things derived from or inspired by it and I am just not captivated by the sort of story they tell. Manson's version doesn't seem that more wild than others I have become aware of. As such, the actual text has no interest and certainly no appeal to me.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I didn't listen to much as a child, but I've been trying to make up for it for the last 1/3 century.

Enjoy that. I know I do.

I find Manson and his cult fascinating, but I am hardly a 'fan'.

I kind of figured you weren't a fan. I'd be shocked if anyone said they were................................

I'm not sure what my academic training is supposed to make of an apocalyptic religious text, or any text, religious or not. (I did have a lit class in college, but that was a long time ago.) As a matter of education I have a B.S. from the liberal arts college. The same degree that the CS students and pre-med students were taking. My studies beyond that put aside such fuzzy things to consider the nature of physical reality.

That's impressive, but sometime in the future, maybe Jesus will become more relevant for you, without having to set any Physics aside.

As for the text, I have been aware of many things derived from or inspired by it and I am just not captivated by the sort of story they tell. Manson's version doesn't seem that more wild than others I have become aware of. As such, the actual text has no interest and certainly no appeal to me.

Manson doesn't impress me.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Enjoy that. I know I do.

I kind of figured you weren't a fan. I'd be shocked if anyone said they were................................

That's impressive, but sometime in the future, maybe Jesus will become more relevant for you, without having to set any Physics aside.

If they found him in his tomb the archeology would be quite interesting. Until then he is just another ancient religious figure and physics or not I have need for them.

Manson doesn't impress me.

I didn't say I found him impressive. He was a nut job. The way people could fall for his insanity was fascinating. I have had a passing interest in cults since then.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

If they found him in his tomb the archeology would be quite interesting. Until then he is just another ancient religious figure and physics or not I have need for them.

I didn't say I found him impressive. He was a nut job. The way people could fall for his insanity was fascinating. I have had a passing interest in cults since then.

You and me both; which is why I've had a moderate interest in neuro-science and the social sciences since I took an Intro to Neuroscience class way back in 1987 at the first university I attended.

I'm all about "understanding" the epistemic strains of thought in religions and cults..............and politics.

 

[FredVB]

That's never made sense to me. Doesn't it mean God is intentionally designing bacteria to be resistant to our antibiotics? Or in classic predator/prey evolutionary arms races, is that God designing things to counter His other designs?

God is then not lacking in knowledge of results from anything, and processes that are possible with parameters are set in place for anything. The curse in the world spreads from resistance from any of us with our free will to anything of God, so things happen contrary to some of our interests because of that.

The question of God's existence does not affect the science of biological evolution at all, one way or the other. If you think that the theory of evolution contradicts your beliefs about God, then the contradiction is with those beliefs, not God's existence.

My beliefs are not set. They can change. I would not say God changes. Any evolution happening is subject to that.

Why would the universe need an external intelligence to start? There is nothing about the Universe that caring is required for.

Evolution and the origin of the universe are very different topics.

Atheism is about if a person believes in god or not. It has nothing to do with science, morality, etc.

Is this supposed to mean something?

There is necessary existence eternal and without beginning and without limit, without any interruption, being necessary, the universe is not that, it having a beginning, having limitation, having interruption in its constituency. If certain parameters independent of one another were slightly different from one another from the time of the big bang that is said to have started the universe life that is possible in the universe would not then be possible. There is indeed abundant provision for us, and we are with capacity provided to for all that we do understand. That is my answer to that. As for evolution, the Provider for our life and what we have would not have a hands off to any evolution happening. Some does, and there are parameters with processes set in place with laws in which they work, for that. Atheism is not needed for considering these things, it would be an unproven approach.

 

[Aaron112]

Honesty, honesty, is there any honesty anymore, anywhere ? Well, yes, but not usually known. Trusting those in power is not honesty nor is it helpful.. Trusting the Truth, Seeking the Truth, eventually leads, for one, to antoine bechamp and the truth about disease, etc.... the money-grubbers hate it and have silenced it for over a hundred years and will silence the truth even more as they use ai to 'catch' it whenever it pops up anywhere.

 

[Aaron112]

Patterns of animal distribution were one of the principal evidences that inspired Darwin to formulate the Theory of Evolution.

Somehow not quite.
All the patterns of and in life, in the world, reveal the creation of and by the Almighty Creator of LIFE!

When, how, or why anyone took their observations to believe or come up with fairy tales is what? Human? (as humans not set apart in Jesus , are, and remain until the end of the world , sinful, thus wrong.

 

[Aaron112]

Part of the problem is the absence of pre-Noah cartography.

Nah. No problem. We lived for thousands of years without even ever thinking of it or any need or question... right?
(or if there is a problem, what problem ? )