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Noah way?

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with God all things are possible. Without God, all things are impossible.
Inventing a magic man in the sky to try and answer your questions is something a child does, if you don't know the answer to a question making something up is never a good idea because you still don't know the answer, you only think you do, adults stop doing things like that when they become adults, they put away childish things.
 
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Inventing a magic man in the sky to try and answer your questions is something a child does, if you don't know the answer to a question making something up is never a good idea because you still don't know the answer, you only think you do, adults stop doing things like that when they become adults, they put away childish things.

God usually doesn't change things, He changes me.
And that's a miracle in the experience. If you ever try to
stop a panic by yourself, or in someone else, it's tough.
 
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The difference is, with God all things are possible.

Let's see how that applies in the real world.

You are on a jury for a murder trial. The prosecution presents a ton of forensic evidence including fingerprints, DNA, shoe prints, tire prints, etc. that all tie the suspect to the commission of the crime. The defense attorney gets up and says, "Well, God actually made all of that evidence, and you can't prove me wrong because all things are possible with God."

Would you buy this argument? If not, why should we buy yours?
 
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The Australian Aboriginal people have an answer. According to their creation story, the animals were brought to the island continent by boat. Their ancestors brought animals with them as a food source. After that the only explanation I can think of is they cross bred animals with other kinds. Maybe rabbits with possums to get a kangaroo.

I see that Genesis is not the only myth you think is real.
 
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After that the only explanation I can think of is they cross bred animals with other kinds. Maybe rabbits with possums to get a kangaroo.

Cross breed rabbits with possums to get kangaroos? Oh my goodness, I really don't know of anyway to respond to this.

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An atheist asserting that the flood of Noah never happened? Who would have thought? I'm astounded! Let's examine this deeper, though. As it turns out, there WAS a witness. Let's see what He said about it.

<snipped for sanity>

We know that we can't attribute this to a Noachian paradigm because the Noachian is a geologic system and early time period on the planet Mars. Clearly, this doesn't explain anything for us.

No, you most definitely do NOT have an eye witness. You have a book. You have a book, written by unknown authors, with characters who who make a variety of unusual and conflicting claims. One of these characters makes a claim regarding the history of the earth.

It is not that you believe an eye witness. You believe a character's claim in an old book. You need to convince us that this book is worth believing in before we can go any further.
 
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How is that not possible and yet all of life; plant and animal; evolving from some magic Frankencell IS possible? The difference is, with God all things are possible. Without God, all things are impossible.

So... without god, I can't get up in the morning? Get dressed? Eat breakfast?

I don't buy this. Everything is possible without god. God doesn't make anything more possible or probable.
 
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Inventing a magic man in the sky to try and answer your questions is something a child does, if you don't know the answer to a question making something up is never a good idea because you still don't know the answer, you only think you do, adults stop doing things like that when they become adults, they put away childish things.

It's a bit more complicated than that. We have many historical books from different people and time periods that all speak of the same God. It's a written history of Israel.

Just as America was not made up, God was not made up either. Both are based on historical, eyewitness evidence. If you want to accuse anyone of making something up then your argument is with Israel and their history, not with Christians.
 
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It's a bit more complicated than that. We have many historical books from different people and time periods that all speak of the same God. It's a written history of Israel.
Just because people speak of something means nothing, is the Kraken or the Cyclops or all of the Greek Gods real just because people spoke of them?
Just as America was not made up, God was not made up either. Both are based on historical, eyewitness evidence. If you want to accuse anyone of making something up then your argument is with Israel and their history, not with Christians.
You are believing people who said they saw a God, by your reasoning Joseph Smith told the truth as well.
 
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That is correct. Unless you think evolution produced the operating system you use to do those things. Which is highly illogical.

Just out of curiosity, could you state in a formal logical syllogism showing how evolution is illogical?

Just to say something is illogical is not very productive as I see the terms logical and illogical being thrown about by people who don't seem to understand the basics or application of logic.

Dizredux
 
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Just out of curiosity, could you state in a formal logical syllogism showing how evolution is illogical?

Just to say something is illogical is not very productive as I see the terms logical and illogical being thrown about by people who don't seem to understand the basics or application of logic.

Dizredux

ED is not big on backing his statements with objective evidence. I have yet to see him produce any.
 
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That is correct. Unless you think evolution produced the operating system you use to do those things. Which is highly illogical.

Hahahahahahah... Oh, wait... are you serious?

So, what every single living thing does is illogical? A bacteria can't do anything without god telling it to. Illogical, I do not think this word means what you think it means.
 
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The issue is that there would still have to be a relatively similar gene pool elsewhere, where the source animals came from. You don't find humans only on Australia, likewise you shouldn't have Australia be the only natural home of kangaroos and other creatures exclusive to Australia if they arrived there at the same time humans did.

All living marsupials - such as wallabies, kangaroos and opossums - all originated in South America, a new genetic study suggests.

Yep – the animals most famous for populating Australia actually started out on another continent altogether. But marsupials – a group of mammals known for toting their young in belly pouches on the females – are still common in South America, too.

The recent study used new genetic data about some of these species to trace the family tree.

Marsupials Not From Down Under After All | LiveScience
 
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I believe one of AV's answers to this involved Unicorns giving birth to tree sloths and aardvarks.
That was a theory I jettisoned in favor of God sending them back to their points of origination via an Acts 8 miracle.

I believe they stepped through the door of the Ark and were instantly back where they came from.

What's your answer, by the way?
 
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All living marsupials - such as wallabies, kangaroos and opossums - all originated in South America, a new genetic study suggests.

Yep, and they migrated to Australia when the two continents were still in contact. Millions of years later the two continents pulled apart, and Australia remained isolated from the other continents. After this split, placental mammals evolved on the other continents. Since Australia stayed isolated from those continents, placental mammals didn't make it to Australia outside of a few exceptions (humans, their dogs, and bats).

Australia is known for not having placental mammals. So how is it that after this supposed flood, none of the placental mammals made it? How did the slow little koala outrun the cheetah or wolf? Was there some sort of force field that kept placental mammals out?
 
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