No need for so called "clobber passages" if:

[Trashionista]

I believe that anyone who doesn't accept the Mercy and Grace offered by our Lord and Saviour will cause themselves to go into the Lake of Fire. This is why I try so hard to show everyone that we need a Saviour and that God loves us so much He sent His only Son to be that Saviour, that bridge to back to Him.

All through the Bible we see how sin separates us from God. From the very beginning when Adam and Eve were cast out of the Garden of Eden to this very day we are all sinners, and in need of repentence.

The only difference from Genesis to now is that God knew we couldn't live the way He wanted, so He sent His son to suffer and die for us. He sent His son whose blood covers all our sins to be the answer we needed to again fellowship with God.

Scientific proof wouldn't be more accurate then the word and knowledge of our Lord, and it amazes me that we think that if we can't proof it by our knowledge it isn't so.

Faith in things not seen is what we are ask to have, and that doesn't mean until we can prove it. That means faith until we know by sight which we won't have until we go home to be with Him or He comes for us.

How can man think himself so great that he can prove all things of God? We can't even make dirt, and we think we can prove that we know everything that God can do?

God can do all things, whether we understand the how, what, when or why. So again by faith we must put our trust in God, and take Him at His word. Not try and make His word say something that makes more sense to us, who don't even use have of the brain God gave us.

One of our biggest mistake was when we listened to people back in the 70's and only started speaking of the Love of God, leaving out jealous, wrath, judge, etc. In Jude 1 we see how some people we can win to the Kingdom with the love side, but in the very next verse we see how some must be saved by fear.

Why fear? Because some will not be worried about not totally surrendering to a God that only is Love. Why won't they? Because they don't believe that an only Loving God would want them to give up all their sins.

Again. You have no concrete, scientific proof. You have faith its all true, but nothing concrete.

And I wasn't asking for the Coles Notes version of your feelings on God. Though it did highlight my original point, which you failed to actually answer, so well done.

 

[Phinehas2]

Dear Quirk,

I'd say feeling the need to lecture a homosexual with the tenets of the Bible after seeing them in Church is being disrespectful.

Anyone can come to church, I was referring to Christians who already knwo the truth and can be restored from sin Gal 6.

 

[savedandhappy1]

I'd say feeling the need to lecture a homosexual with the tenets of the Bible after seeing them in Church is being disrespectful.

So everyone that goes to church is saved?

Does every church teach the Word or do some/many teach for itchy ears?

Is anyone that goes to your church that if you hadn't seen them there you would witness to or invite them to church because of the way they act/live when they aren't in church.

What do we do with the scriptures that tell us what to do if a brother/sister is sinning? Beside the scriptures in Matthew, there are other scriptures that tell us how we are to handle brother/sisters who are sinning. There is even some scriptures that tell if the person will not repent to put them out, so how does seeing someone at church change anything the scriptures tell us we are to do as disciples of Christ? Do you have scriptures, that I could study, that explain your beliefs?

1 Tim 5:17-25
17 Let the elders who rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the word and doctrine. 18 For the Scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it treads out the grain,” and, “The laborer is worthy of his wages.”
19 Do not receive an accusation against an elder except from two or three witnesses.
20 Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also may fear.
21 I charge you before God and the Lord Jesus Christ and the elect angels that you observe these things without prejudice, doing nothing with partiality.
22 Do not lay hands on anyone hastily, nor share in other people’s sins; keep yourself pure.
23 No longer drink only water, but use a little wine for your stomach’s sake and your frequent infirmities.
24 Some men’s sins are clearly evident, preceding them to judgment, but those of some men follow later.
25 Likewise, the good works of some are clearly evident, and those that are otherwise cannot be hidden.


Titus 1:10-16
10 For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision,
11 whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain.
12 One of them, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons.”
13 This testimony is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith,
14 not giving heed to Jewish fables and commandments of men who turn from the truth.
15 To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are defiled and unbelieving nothing is pure; but even their mind and conscience are defiled.
16 They profess to know God, but in works they deny Him, being abominable, disobedient, and disqualified for every good work.

 

[savedandhappy1]

Again. You have no concrete, scientific proof. You have faith its all true, but nothing concrete.

And I wasn't asking for the Coles Notes version of your feelings on God. Though it did highlight my original point, which you failed to actually answer, so well done.

Nothing concrete????????? Like scientific proof is concrete, boy could we look back at how many times science has stated something as fact to only change that later on down the line.

As I have said on many post I put my trust in God, not man, and I sure don't think that man knows more than God.

Coles Notes version, sorry I have no idea what you are referring to so if you could give me the post or explain that would be nice.

"So well done" which means what? That I put my trust in the word of God not man or what exactly? That if science can't prove that God says homosexuality is a sin then it isn't? What is science suppose to tell me anyhow? Are they to tell me that even though we can see with our own eyes how the male and female bodies fit together perfectly, and the male male or female female bodies don't is just a figment of our imagination?

What do you believe science can tell us about the mind of God, and how He made us when it comes to sexual matters?

As I have said before we can't even make dirt, but yet I am to believe they know this.

Do you believe it is loving to tell someone that if they stick a knife in a plug in they could die? If you saw me doing something that the Bible says would keep me from inheriting the Kingdom of God would you do as the Bible says to do or would you love me so much you said nothing?

1 Tim 4:12-16
12 Let no one despise your youth, but be an example to the believers in word, in conduct, in love, in spirit,[b] in faith, in purity.
13 Till I come, give attention to reading, to exhortation, to doctrine.
14 Do not neglect the gift that is in you, which was given to you by prophecy with the laying on of the hands of the eldership.
15 Meditate on these things; give yourself entirely to them, that your progress may be evident to all.
16 Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you.

James 5:19-20
19 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back,
20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.

What are we to do with the scriptures above?

By the way sarcasim doesn't become you, but if it makes you think you have proven something by it......................

 

[AetheriusLamia]

I don't understand your point, OP.