NO MORE PREACHING ON HELL

[miknik5]

1 John 2

 

[Ken Rank]

Here lately I have wondered why I do not hear ANY sermons preached on hell. I grew up Pentecostal and all those years I would hear preaching on hell fire, repent and give your life to Christ. Many times I saw the Holy Spirit convict people during these sermons and they would practically run to the altar. It seems here lately and has been happening for years now that preachers no longer preach on this matter. Why has everything turned into a pretty package, tickle your ears service?? Why have we strayed away from this? The preacher used to pour out his heart to the congregation, pleading the case of Jesus to turn from the wickedness of this world for there is a heaven and there is a hell, choose today who you will serve, repent for the time is drawing near. What happened to this teaching and preaching, it seems it has all but vanished?

The good news is not that if you don't say a repeat after me prayer you are going to be tortured in fire for eternity... that is not good news. The good news is that a Kingdom is coming, life of offered.... and a King will reign.

 

[miknik5]

Sir. About the woes to the whitewashed Pharisees

Can you explain to any man how they can wash the slate of their soul clean where GOD sees?

 

[Neogaia777]

Many have a hard time defending against people who have very valid questions about it (hell) like why A God of love would send people to hell for infinite torment, for finite, often done in ignorance, behavior or sins...

This is a different generation, and hell has to "make sense" to them, cause, if and when it doesn't, many are turned off from hearing anymore from preachers who can't defend an against the most simple, basic, logical and valid questions about it... And turned off from God also...

Many can't do that, many can not make the concept of hell, make logical sense... (I think I can though)...

Is the "fire" a "literal" fire for example...?

Many who preach hellfire and brimstone, want to make people to afraid to ask questions like these to them, and when someone does ask them a valid honest question about it, if the person preaching it, gets stumped or doesn't have an answer, they often get angry, fly off the handle, and tells the person with the question that they are the Devil, or under the power of Satan, and will burn in hell, (for their questions)...

These and other things is why it isn't preached much anymore...

The "fear factor" doesn't really work anymore... Not with this generation... And this generation is turned off by those trying to spread fear in the name of righteousness...

God Bless!

I listened to a pastor who preached it, and, afterward asked him some questions, and He (knew about my cigarette smoking) and told me I was under the power and influence of Satan, and that I was in danger of going to hell forever, cause of my cigarette smoking... That it was a tool of the Devil...

Needless to say, I don't talk to him, nor listen to him anymore...

God Bless!

 

[Solomons Porch]

Many have a hard time defending against people who have very valid questions about it (hell) like why A God of love would send people to hell for infinite torment, for finite, often done in ignorance, behavior or sins...

This is a different generation, and hell has to "make sense" to them, cause, if and when it doesn't, many are turned off from hearing anymore from preachers who can't defend an against the most simple, basic, logical and valid questions about it... And turned off from God also...

Many can't do that, many can not make the concept of hell, make logical sense... (I think I can though)...

Is the "fire" a "literal" fire for example...?

Many who preach hellfire and brimstone, want to make people to afraid to ask questions like these to them, and when someone does ask them a valid honest question about it, if the person preaching it, gets stumped or doesn't have an answer, they often get angry, fly off the handle, and tells the person with the question that they are the Devil, or under the power of Satan, and will burn in hell, (for their questions)...

These and other things is why it isn't preached much anymore...

The "fear factor" doesn't really work anymore... Not with this generation... And this generation is turned off by those trying to spread fear in the name of righteousness...

God Bless!

Which is why today pastors, teachers etc are depending upon their flesh for a message. They have left the ANOINTING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. If they will follow HS and letting the anointing of God take over, they will not have to search for answers, because at that point the anointing of the HS is preaching and He knows the Fathers ways and wills. That anointing is what breaks the yoke of bondage. When a pastor or other is being led of the Spirit, you can feel it stirring in the depths of your being. You want have a question at the time, cause the anointing of God is in the house.

 

[miknik5]

The good news is not that if you don't say a repeat after me prayer you are going to be tortured in fire for eternity... that is not good news. The good news is that a Kingdom is coming, life of offered.... and a King will reign.

The kingdom is already being built up in THE BODY of THE SON

Either inside
Or outside THE DOOR

 

[Na Nach Oi!]

Yes because they did not believe the Kingdom of GOD was upon them and instead of entering in they interfered and prevented those who wanted to enter in through THE DOOR from entering in

It could be addressed to churchian leaders/pastors too.

They corrupt the truth because of the greed of money and fame (i.e. worshipping Mammon).

 

[Neogaia777]

Which is why today pastors, teachers etc are depending upon their flesh for a message. They have left the ANOINTING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. If they will follow HS and letting the anointing of God take over, they will not have to search for answers, because at that point the anointing of the HS is preaching and He knows the Fathers ways and wills. That anointing is what breaks the yoke of bondage. When a pastor or other is being led of the Spirit, you can feel it stirring in the depths of your being. You want have a question at the time, cause the anointing of God is in the house.

One has to be prepared to answer some very valid questions about God and the concept of hell, before they preach it nowadays, and many cannot, and are not prepared to... That's why I think that many aviod it...

God Bless!

 

[Solomons Porch]

I listened to a pastor who preached it, and, afterward asked him some questions, and He (knew about my cigarette smoking) and told me I was under the power and influence of Satan, and that I was in danger of going to hell forever, cause of my cigarette smoking... That it was a tool of the Devil...

Needless to say, I don't talk to him, nor listen to him anymore...

God Bless!

I have come across those kinds of pastors and I do not agree with the "method" of delivering the message. I have experienced those kind. BUT just because one does it does not mean they all do this, nor should they. There is a way of delivering the truth (in love). I have came across alot of pastors that were working under the influence of a "religious spirit" and thankfully, I was saved, sanctified and filled with the Holy Ghost well enough to know and discern the spirit behind the message, so to speak. The anointing is what breaks bondage, and the anointing is love and it is powerful.

 

[miknik5]

Which is why today pastors, teachers etc are depending upon their flesh for a message. They have left the ANOINTING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. If they will follow HS and letting the anointing of God take over, they will not have to search for answers, because at that point the anointing of the HS is preaching and He knows the Fathers ways and wills. That anointing is what breaks the yoke of bondage. When a pastor or other is being led of the Spirit, you can feel it stirring in the depths of your being. You want have a question at the time, cause the anointing of God is in the house.

The HOLY SPIRIT glorifies THE SON

 

[Solomons Porch]

The HOLY SPIRIT glorifies THE SON

Amen sister YES he does !!!

 

[Pastor Glenn]

Here lately I have wondered why I do not hear ANY sermons preached on hell. I grew up Pentecostal and all those years I would hear preaching on hell fire, repent and give your life to Christ. Many times I saw the Holy Spirit convict people during these sermons and they would practically run to the altar. It seems here lately and has been happening for years now that preachers no longer preach on this matter. Why has everything turned into a pretty package, tickle your ears service?? Why have we strayed away from this? The preacher used to pour out his heart to the congregation, pleading the case of Jesus to turn from the wickedness of this world for there is a heaven and there is a hell, choose today who you will serve, repent for the time is drawing near. What happened to this teaching and preaching, it seems it has all but vanished?

 

[Ken Rank]

The kingdom is already being built up in THE BODY of THE SON

Either inside
Or outside THE DOOR

Oh, hey thanks.

 

[miknik5]

I often say.....OH ITS ABOUT TO GET DEEP UP IN HERE
I dont wanna swim in shallow waters, I wanna go to those parts not explored. When I would sometimes teach a class, i would say, hey yall i hope you brought your scuba gear cause its gonna get deep in here today. I dont want milk, I want steak steak and more steak.

You have to ask HIM.
And what exactly do you think would be more?

All you will come back to is what you began in is what you will end in

Faith directed in and on HIM

From Faith----->to Faith
From First------>to last

 

[miknik5]

Oh, hey thanks.

Why do you thank me?
What can I do?

 

[Pastor Glenn]

I used to be a credentialed Pentecostal Pastor. The church that I was serving with stopped preaching the Gospel and anything to do with the person of the Holy Spirit became watered down. Things became a 3 ring circus and what amounted to a seeker friendly, lets have fun in church club. Sadly, this has become the norm for many churches. Congregations wanting to hear only "feel good sermons" by shallow people in pulpits. There has definately been a falling away and my heart breaks. I am now attending a strong, Bible believing church and involved in global online ministry.

http://www.youthpatchministries.weebly.com/

 

[Ken Rank]

Why do you thank me?
What can I do?

I was kind of being sarcastic, I shouldn't have, I don't know you. But when I get a reply that seems to hint that I have no clue what Scripture says... I tend to get a little snarky. My apologies.

 

[Solomons Porch]

I used to be a credentialed Pentecostal Pastor. The church that I was serving with stopped preaching the Gospel and anything to do with the person of the Holy Spirit became watered down. Things became a 3 ring circus and what amounted to a seeker friendly, lets have fun in church club. Sadly, this has become the norm for many churches. Congregations wanting to hear only "feel good sermons" by shallow people in pulpits. There has definately been a falling away and my heart breaks. I am now attending a strong, Bible believing church and involved in global online ministry.

Patch Ministries

The gospel being deluted and the Holy Spirit being left out, grieves my spirit.

 

[miknik5]

The GOOD NEWS is the GOSPEL of the UNFATHOMABLE GIFT of GOD's MERCY and GRACE and LONG SUFFERING PATIENCE upon
HIS DISOBEDIENT CHILDREN that in HIS GREAT LOVE HE provided THE ONE AND ONLY WAY back into HIS PRESENCE by through and in and THE BODY of HIS SON

THE TRUE VEIL by which all men must come to THE FATHER

 

[Greg J.]

Here lately I have wondered why I do not hear ANY sermons preached on hell. I grew up Pentecostal and all those years I would hear preaching on hell fire, repent and give your life to Christ. Many times I saw the Holy Spirit convict people during these sermons and they would practically run to the altar. It seems here lately and has been happening for years now that preachers no longer preach on this matter. Why has everything turned into a pretty package, tickle your ears service?? Why have we strayed away from this? The preacher used to pour out his heart to the congregation, pleading the case of Jesus to turn from the wickedness of this world for there is a heaven and there is a hell, choose today who you will serve, repent for the time is drawing near. What happened to this teaching and preaching, it seems it has all but vanished?

This is indeed a serious and widespread problem. I suspect it is mostly prevalent in countries where life can be comfortable without God. Our culture has been built up with our comfort in mind—but not for no reason. The drifting away from God that happened early last century (and earlier) in America has generally increased the spiritual discomfort and pain in people. It is so normal now that it isn't labeled as pain or discomfort. We've accepted it as normal because it is accepted as normal in our culture.

Over the years our culture has responded to this by increasing our need for pain relief, which naturally people want ASAP. The only way to get relief from this kind of pain is becoming more connected to God, however, since that doesn't work quickly enough, people have turned to everything else anyone can think of to try—which primarily is to cover the pain with pleasure and satisfying activities. i.e., everything enjoyable even if it has nothing to do with God. God is not even an appropriate mainstream media subject any more because just hinting that a person is morally accountable to someone who cannot be escaped creates such discomfort.
There are lots of exceptions, but still there is a pattern of people that have become hypersensitive to pain. We're already have a persistent baseline pain. We naturally veer off anything that causes additional discomfort. Perhaps you have noted the pattern of rising fear in the country. There's an enormous number of things people are afraid of these days (open the newspaper) instead of trusting that God is in control.

Hence the advent of too "seeker-friendly" churches. These are churches that want to comfort people, which is a good goal, actually, but they also are looking to short-term comfort rather than long-term. Generally speaking, long-term comfort comes at the expense of short-term comfort, because the rock solid source of long-term comfort is that God transforms you, often through the refiner's fire. It's why Jesus has become a good investment. We want to know going with God will produce greater comfort.

There are Christians in the world today whose lives and culture make it seem like they are already in hell and the end must be upon us all. They are a lot more satisfied with the belief that the next life will be happy than we are without being demanding for comfort in the short-term from God.

The loss of God has resulted in a loss of "community," by which I mean a connectedness to the love one should be experiencing—even from one's own family. I'm sure you've all heard of or experienced the fact that 40 years ago, everyone knew their neighbors, but now it is common to know only one or two (or no) neighbors where you live. That's what's comfortable now. People cause people pain. (This is also why IMO there is a rise in having pets, pampering services, the entertainment industry, eating food for comfort, the transformation of gyms to health clubs, and anything that makes you feel inclusiveness.) Even farther back—80 years ago, people relied on each other a lot more, too (we weren't so rich and it wasn't as long since we were a farming culture).

The result is seeker-friendly churches, not to mention companies that make an effort to be fun to work at. It's all a grasping at being a replacement for God and a family that loves and accepts you as you are.

So preaching about tithing, hell, suffering, and anything that costs you much is uncomfortable. And where there is discomfort, there will be people removing themselves from its source (hence the rise in divorce, frequency of job changes, etc.).

The solution (of course) is Jesus. Knowing you are accountable to a higher power that will judge you and knows everything you've done has a big psychological impact on society (in addition to the spiritual impact of more of the power of God and his love in one's life). Many churches have failed to accept that people will leave their church if they speak the truth, in part due to failing to recognize that it is God who draws people to Jesus, not comfy teaching. Comfy teaching draws people, but it isn't as strongly to Jesus. (Hence spiritually dead churches.) The Word of God is not a Nerf light saber, it is a sharp, dividing sword. If it is being softened, it will not be as effective in doing what it does (which is not to say there is no place for a soft sword at times).

The only solution I'm aware of is to (re)dedicating one's heart to Jesus and preaching the truth in love and leaving the consequences to God. It seems the Lord is going to have to allow horrors and catastrophes to drive us to rely on each other and for us to hear the hope held out in the Gospel. Pray that the Lord will instead grant us a revelation of his love and an increase in the supernatural spiritual gifts which can be great sources of faith and comfort.