I think it is the fact that it says nothing about not debating the issue - that is the key wording that is missing. It's usually people who want us to NOT use the words 'Messianic Judaism' because, they argue, we are not mainstream Messianic Judaism. There are several threads going at the moment that contain the same sort of arguments. We would like see a ban on debating the name of this part of CF. I'm sure we couldn't go to a Christian thread and debate whether they should have a denominational name because they are not real Christians!
We had a lot of trouble as I recall last year about the same thing. As you can see several regular posters consider this an issue that needs to be dealt with.
BTW this IS mainstream MJ so don't let anyone fool you
The real issue streams from Judaism as a whole , which still separates Jew from Gentile unless there is conversion
Since MJ doesn't require conversion, the MJ Jews (not all but a fringe group) just throw the baby out with the bath water and want to water down the Gentiles' obligation to Torah which for some is very offensive and rightly so
Both Messiah and Paul expounded on the status of all believers and they are all equal , Jew and Gentile are fellow heirs and partakers in the kingdom period
If some one feels called to Torah that is good because that is the calling of the Holy Spirit when done from a pure heart
Some may get mad, hopefully not all of you but if someone Jew or Gentile fails to feel called and never discovers Torah as a way to walk , they will not lose their salvation but they will probably not be considered great in the kingdom That's Abba's business not ours. But we here are those who do feel that Torah is valid and important to the degree we learn and apply it
Our Rabbi calls Gentiles who follow Torah RighteousGentiles, not to separate them from Jews who follow Torah ,which some do as a way to divide the body further , but he calls them Righteous to honor them for doing what they do
You all who follow Torah and Messiah should be honored not denigrated
But also we need to consider all precious in the body no matter if they follow Torah or not. We don't want them to feel classed out or second class to us right? As many who lash out are probably themselves feeling the need to justify what they feel called to because they don't want to be judged by us as second class
There is no justification in this forum , we are a forum that feels Torah is for all mankind but at the same time we don't want to compel folks to do Torah out of their flesh right?
We want to inspire them
If I make the changes , how can we as a group change the atmosphere here on our part?
Torah Folks here have been on the defensive for soooooo long
We need to walk in freedom from judgement now and shower others with that same freedom ....only inspire them to join us in their own discovery of walking in Torah
