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No common ancestor between man and ape has been found.

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According to the Smithsonian Institute, a common ancestor between apes and humans has never been found. Look at bottom right of image- "The last common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees.... We do not yet have its remains."
If no evidence has been found, how do you know it actually existed?

Genetics | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program

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Bait and switch fail.

A "common ancestor between apes and humans" is not the same thing as "the last common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees".

As to how we know it existed and we share common ancestors with the apes - there's the genetic studies and the fossil evidence. Here's a 2009 study that provides quite a good overview of the evidence of the 100-110 ancestor species between us and the Chimp-Human Last Common Ancestor.

We've probably learned more about how COMPLEX the hominid-pan speciation event was in the last 15 years than we did in the previous 150 years. The best available evidence points to multiple hybridisation events over period of at least 4 million years.

Seriously, educate yourself on the topic. Then you wont look so foolish.
 
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Bait and switch fail.

A "common ancestor between apes and humans" is not the same thing as "the last common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees".

As to how we know it existed and we share common ancestors with the apes - there's the genetic studies and the fossil evidence. Here's a 2009 study that provides quite a good overview of the evidence of the 100-110 ancestor species between us and the Chimp-Human Last Common Ancestor.

We've probably learned more about how COMPLEX the hominid-pan speciation event was in the last 15 years than we did in the previous 150 years. The best available evidence points to multiple hybridisation events over period of at least 4 million years.

Seriously, educate yourself on the topic. Then you wont look so foolish.
Has the remains of a common ancestor ever been found? Can you show me where it was found?
 
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Has the remains of a common ancestor ever been found? Can you show me where it was found?
This is as ridiculous as me stating that if you can't show me the remains of your great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather then he never existed.

Seriously, do you guys ever think through what you're asking? Think about it - you're asking for us to show you the remains of a great-great-great-<insert appropriate number of greats>-grandparent. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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This is as ridiculous as me stating that if you can't show me the remains of your great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather then he never existed.

Oddly enough there's a portait of my great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather - Mad Samuel, High Sheriff of Oxford in Oxford City Hall.

His grave wasn't marked, so after a mere 250 years there's no other proof that he existed, so it's not entirely surprising that no-one's found whatever remains of our last common ancestor with the great apes from 6,000,000 years ago.
 
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Ahem.. GENETICS!!! You're welcome.
Yup. To show that you and your second cousin are related, we do a DNA test -- we don't dig up your great-grandfather.
 
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Sure, but that's not a statement about the origin (or shape) of our bodies.

But God made us in His image. So, how come people believe we evolved from apes?

I personaly believe we are unique. Gods own sons and daughters. Ok, we may share dna with many apes etc but i still believe we are unique.
 
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But God made us in His image. So, how come people believe we evolved from apes?
I believe we evolved from apes because all of the evidence shows we did. Since being made in God's image doesn't tell us how we were made physically, what does that have to do with the question of whether we evolved?
 
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Bait and switch fail.

A "common ancestor between apes and humans" is not the same thing as "the last common ancestor of humans and chimpanzees".

As to how we know it existed and we share common ancestors with the apes - there's the genetic studies and the fossil evidence. Here's a 2009 study that provides quite a good overview of the evidence of the 100-110 ancestor species between us and the Chimp-Human Last Common Ancestor.

We've probably learned more about how COMPLEX the hominid-pan speciation event was in the last 15 years than we did in the previous 150 years. The best available evidence points to multiple hybridisation events over period of at least 4 million years.

Seriously, educate yourself on the topic. Then you wont look so foolish.
Hybridization?
Could you elaborate?
 
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UC Davis: "If no evidence has been found, how do you know it actually existed?"

Well, we know, for example, because of this evidence from comparative chromosome analysis of humans and apes. What is your answer to Kenneth Miller's powerful argument?

kenneth miller chimpanzees youtube chromozones - Bing video
 
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I believe we evolved from apes because all of the evidence shows we did. Since being made in God's image doesn't tell us how we were made physically, what does that have to do with the question of whether we evolved?
We didn’t evolve from apes

We intermingled
Which is exactly what hybridization is claiming
 
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Sure, but that's not a statement about the origin (or shape) of our bodies.
The origin of our bodies was pure
The origin of the bodies of apes was pure

Until both intermingled

Then the gene pool became....impure
 
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Yup. To show that you and your second cousin are related, we do a DNA test -- we don't dig up your great-grandfather.
That shows the results of intermingling of two species

That also shows GOD’s grace in not letting this unusual cross breeding to result (any longer) in viable offspring
 
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Yes it is
Which is why the word of GOD states it is wholly wrong

No, your claim that human hybridized with apes is wrong, on several levels. Humans evolved from a common ancestor with apes. Also, humans ARE apes.
 
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