New York Gov. Hochul defends her record on crime, blames 'human emotion' for increased sense of fear

[Valletta]

"I deal with two things here: I deal with real facts and I deal with people’s fear, and I address both," she said at a press conference alongside Attorney General Letitia James. "The crime related to guns is going down… We’re seeing progress there, but human emotion is different. I understand that."
New York Gov. Hochul defends her record on crime, blames 'human emotion' for increased sense of fear

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Democrats, forever blaming other people and Republicans for problems they and their policies have created and perpetuated. Only problem is half the country eats that stuff up like candy.

 

[Valletta]

Democrats, forever blaming other people and Republicans for problems they and their policies have created and perpetuated. Only problem is half the country eats that stuff up like candy.

Yes, but hopefully there will come a time in places like New York, where there are almost no Republicans to blame, that enough people will see through the blaming and the name calling and the fear mongering.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Yes, but hopefully there will come a time in places like New York, where there are almost no Republicans to blame, that enough people will see through the blaming and the name calling and the fear mongering.

That requires independent thinking and critical thinking. Something which a large portion of the country lacks. But I hear you

 

[FreeinChrist]

Yes, but hopefully there will come a time in places like New York, where there are almost no Republicans to blame, that enough people will see through the blaming and the name calling and the fear mongering.

Most Dangerous Cities in the US 2022

According to July, 2022 crime statistics, The below list is the most dangerous cities in the US in 2022 by Rank, crime data based on the violent crimes(Murder, Rape, Robbery, Aggravated Assault). In 2022, The top 10 most dangerous cities in the US are Little Rock, Memphis, Tacoma, Detroit, Pueblo, Cleveland, Springfield, Lansing, Kansas City and Chattanooga.
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Check the list of the top 30 most dangerous cities. New York is not listed.

Cities experiencing the largest increase in violent crime:
Cities with the Highest Increase in Homicide Rates

In order to determine which cities have the biggest homicide problems, WalletHub compared 50 of the largest U.S. cities based on per capita homicides in Q3 2022, as well as per capita homicides in Q3 2022 vs. Q3 2021 and Q3 2020.
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hmmm... where is New York City?

And from the insurance industry:
Revealed – America's safest and most dangerous cities in 2022

A separate study by analytics firm NeighborhoodScout, meanwhile, revealed the most dangerous cities in America based on raw crime data it compiled from all 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the country. The company ranked each city according to violent crime rates and the likelihood of a person becoming a victim. These are the ones that came out on top.​

1. Monroe, Louisiana
2. Memphis, Tennessee
3. Saginaw, Michigan
4. Detroit, Michigan
5. St. Louis, Missouri
6. Alexandria, Louisiana
=7. Pine Bluff, Arkansas
=7. Little Rock, Arkansas
9. Albany, Georgia
10. South Bend, Indiana​

Where is New York in that list?

Critical thinking indeed.

 

[Valletta]

Most Dangerous Cities in the US 2022

According to July, 2022 crime statistics, The below list is the most dangerous cities in the US in 2022 by Rank, crime data based on the violent crimes(Murder, Rape, Robbery, Aggravated Assault). In 2022, The top 10 most dangerous cities in the US are Little Rock, Memphis, Tacoma, Detroit, Pueblo, Cleveland, Springfield, Lansing, Kansas City and Chattanooga.
​

Check the list of the top 30 most dangerous cities. New York is not listed.

Cities experiencing the largest increase in violent crime:
Cities with the Highest Increase in Homicide Rates

In order to determine which cities have the biggest homicide problems, WalletHub compared 50 of the largest U.S. cities based on per capita homicides in Q3 2022, as well as per capita homicides in Q3 2022 vs. Q3 2021 and Q3 2020.
​

hmmm... where is New York City?

And from the insurance inductry:
Revealed – America's safest and most dangerous cities in 2022

A separate study by analytics firm NeighborhoodScout, meanwhile, revealed the most dangerous cities in America based on raw crime data it compiled from all 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the country. The company ranked each city according to violent crime rates and the likelihood of a person becoming a victim. These are the ones that came out on top.​

1. Monroe, Louisiana
2. Memphis, Tennessee
3. Saginaw, Michigan
4. Detroit, Michigan
5. St. Louis, Missouri
6. Alexandria, Louisiana
=7. Pine Bluff, Arkansas
=7. Little Rock, Arkansas
9. Albany, Georgia
10. South Bend, Indiana​

Where is New York in that list?

Critical thinking indeed.

I assure you that violent crime is out of control in New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia. I also assure you that our southern border is not safe and secure. Your leaders on the left may tell you to the contrary, so I strongly urge you to view video that is out there as well as recordings from people in the neighborhoods that you question. I'm a researcher, it is in my nature to run down information, and of course no one has the time to research everything, but I think we all could do better.

 

[FreeinChrist]

I don't buy your assurances as they are biased. Crime statistics are more factual. Crime is up in most places but it has gone up and is higher per capita in many places more than New York. including many red states.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Most Dangerous Cities in the US 2022

According to July, 2022 crime statistics, The below list is the most dangerous cities in the US in 2022 by Rank, crime data based on the violent crimes(Murder, Rape, Robbery, Aggravated Assault). In 2022, The top 10 most dangerous cities in the US are Little Rock, Memphis, Tacoma, Detroit, Pueblo, Cleveland, Springfield, Lansing, Kansas City and Chattanooga.
​

Check the list of the top 30 most dangerous cities. New York is not listed.

Cities experiencing the largest increase in violent crime:
Cities with the Highest Increase in Homicide Rates

In order to determine which cities have the biggest homicide problems, WalletHub compared 50 of the largest U.S. cities based on per capita homicides in Q3 2022, as well as per capita homicides in Q3 2022 vs. Q3 2021 and Q3 2020.
​

hmmm... where is New York City?

And from the insurance industry:
Revealed – America's safest and most dangerous cities in 2022

A separate study by analytics firm NeighborhoodScout, meanwhile, revealed the most dangerous cities in America based on raw crime data it compiled from all 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the country. The company ranked each city according to violent crime rates and the likelihood of a person becoming a victim. These are the ones that came out on top.​

1. Monroe, Louisiana
2. Memphis, Tennessee
3. Saginaw, Michigan
4. Detroit, Michigan
5. St. Louis, Missouri
6. Alexandria, Louisiana
=7. Pine Bluff, Arkansas
=7. Little Rock, Arkansas
9. Albany, Georgia
10. South Bend, Indiana​

Where is New York in that list?

Critical thinking indeed.

the vast majority of those places are Democrat strongholds, so perhaps NYC isnt on "the list" but my point remains. Dem policies perpetuate crime and lawlessness

 

[wing2000]

I assure you that violent crime is out of control in New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia. I also assure you that our southern border is not safe and secure. Your leaders on the left may tell you to the contrary, so I strongly urge you to view video that is out there as well as recordings from people in the neighborhoods that you question. I'm a researcher, it is in my nature to run down information, and of course no one has the time to research everything, but I think we all could do better.

...human emotion.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Most Dangerous Cities in the US 2022

According to July, 2022 crime statistics, The below list is the most dangerous cities in the US in 2022 by Rank, crime data based on the violent crimes(Murder, Rape, Robbery, Aggravated Assault). In 2022, The top 10 most dangerous cities in the US are Little Rock, Memphis, Tacoma, Detroit, Pueblo, Cleveland, Springfield, Lansing, Kansas City and Chattanooga.
​

Check the list of the top 30 most dangerous cities. New York is not listed.

Cities experiencing the largest increase in violent crime:
Cities with the Highest Increase in Homicide Rates

In order to determine which cities have the biggest homicide problems, WalletHub compared 50 of the largest U.S. cities based on per capita homicides in Q3 2022, as well as per capita homicides in Q3 2022 vs. Q3 2021 and Q3 2020.
​

hmmm... where is New York City?

And from the insurance industry:
Revealed – America's safest and most dangerous cities in 2022

A separate study by analytics firm NeighborhoodScout, meanwhile, revealed the most dangerous cities in America based on raw crime data it compiled from all 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the country. The company ranked each city according to violent crime rates and the likelihood of a person becoming a victim. These are the ones that came out on top.​

1. Monroe, Louisiana
2. Memphis, Tennessee
3. Saginaw, Michigan
4. Detroit, Michigan
5. St. Louis, Missouri
6. Alexandria, Louisiana
=7. Pine Bluff, Arkansas
=7. Little Rock, Arkansas
9. Albany, Georgia
10. South Bend, Indiana​

Where is New York in that list?

Critical thinking indeed.

Political Party of Current Mayor
1. Monroe, Louisiana - Independent
2. Memphis, Tennessee - Democrat
3. Saginaw, Michigan - Not sure on party, probably Independent
4. Detroit, Michigan - Democrat
5. St. Louis, Missouri - Democrat
6. Alexandria, Louisiana - Democrat
=7. Pine Bluff, Arkansas - Democrat
=7. Little Rock, Arkansas - Democrat
9. Albany, Georgia - Democrat
10. South Bend, Indiana - Democrat

I can go through the other list too if you'd like, but I think I've proven my point.

 

[Valletta]

...human emotion.

The attacks are real: Woman shoved down Queens subway stairs in unprovoked attack

 

[wing2000]

The attacks are real: Woman shoved down Queens subway stairs in unprovoked attack

Your prior post simply proved the governor's point.

I assure you that violent crime is out of control in New York City, Chicago, and Philadelphia. I also assure you that our southern border is not safe and secure.

Ignore the data.

 

[Fantine]

the vast majority of those places are Democrat strongholds, so perhaps NYC isnt on "the list" but my point remains. Dem policies perpetuate crime and lawlessness

8 of those 10 cities were in Republican states. Look again. It is campaign season and lies are running fast and loose. Republicans try to fuel fear of crime as the way to get votes. I find this kind of ironic because the biggest crime of 2021, the insurrection that threatened to bring down our country, had nothing to do with Democrats or their policies.

 

[Valletta]

8 of those 10 cities were in Republican states. Look again. It is campaign season and lies are running fast and loose. Republicans try to fuel fear of crime as the way to get votes. I find this kind of ironic because the biggest crime of 2021, the insurrection that threatened to bring down our country, had nothing to do with Democrats or their policies.

The cities have their own police forces, they are not patrolled by the state.
There was no "insurrection," that's fake news. What a bunch of baloney, how many people really thought there was an attempt to take over the U.S. government? As to the victims of violence, these are real people, with real families. Here is a list of those who have been shot and KILLED in Chicago so far THIS YEAR:
Homicides in Chicago: A list of every victim | Chicago Sun-Times
There was one person shot and killed at the Capitol, her name was Ashli Babbitt, she was unarmed and gunned down from a distance.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

8 of those 10 cities were in Republican states. Look again. It is campaign season and lies are running fast and loose. Republicans try to fuel fear of crime as the way to get votes. I find this kind of ironic because the biggest crime of 2021, the insurrection that threatened to bring down our country, had nothing to do with Democrats or their policies.

no no, we aren't talking about states, we are talking about cities. Goalpost changing mid discussions is unfortunately no allowed. But it was a clever attempt. I suppose the cities that burned and countless lives lost in the BLM/Antifa riots were nothing either...

 

[FreeinChrist]

the vast majority of those places are Democrat strongholds, so perhaps NYC isnt on "the list" but my point remains. Dem policies perpetuate crime and lawlessness

The point is this thread was created to mock the Governor of New York (Gov. Hochul )because of the crime in some of the cities, specifically NYC. and then extend it to all Dems. So don't change the goalpost from the OP and leave out the governors of Missouri, Arkansas, Kansas, Oklahoma, etc. Many are Republican strongholds. It is silly to pretend it is a Dem problem and not a Republican problem too. It is more than who is the mayor. The cities are in Red states and bound by state laws too. Who are the Governors of those Red States?

 

[FreeinChrist]

The cities have their own police forces, they are not patrolled by the state.

Check your own OP and the title of this thread. The article in the OP is about the Governor of New York, correct? It is criticizing that Governor for crime in NYC, right?

Don't change the goal posts and insist the crime in Red states are because of the mayors and not the governors, but then criticize the governors in blue states for crime in their cities. That is very hypocritical.

There was no "insurrection," that's fake news. What a bunch of baloney, how many people really thought there was an attempt to take over the U.S. government? As to the victims of violence, these are real people, with real families. Here is a list of those who have been shot and KILLED in Chicago so far THIS YEAR:
Homicides in Chicago: A list of every victim | Chicago Sun-Times
There was one person shot and killed at the Capitol, her name was Ashli Babbitt, she was unarmed and gunned down from a distance.

Stop perpetuating the lie about Jan. 6th. Babbitt was committing a crime and not following the orders of Capitol Police who were protecting House members nearby. I am surprised more insurrectionists weren't killed. And yes, the insurrectionists did plan to disrupt the certification of the election, and cause enough problem so Trump could use the Insurrection act. They were committing a crime and many have been sentenced in court.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

The point is this thread was created to mock the Governor of New York (Gov. Hochul )because of the crime in some of the cities, specifically NYC. and then extend it to all Dems. So don't change the goalpost from the OP and leave out the governors of Missouri, Arkansas, Kansas, Oklahoma, etc. Many are Republican strongholds. It is silly to pretend it is a Dem problem and not a Republican problem too. It is more than who is the mayor. The cities are in Red states and bound by state laws too. Who are the Governors of those Red States?

you are right, the point of the thread is aimed at Democrats. You listed a bunch of cities and tried to make the connection between how safe NYC is and how it isnt listed as dangerous per statistics. I pointed out that you made my point for me. As the vast majority of those cities are run by Democrats. My initial comment was that Democrats and their policies perpetuate crime. Again, you made my point for me. Thank you

 

[FreeinChrist]

you are right, the point of the thread is aimed at Democrats. You listed a bunch of cities and tried to make the connection between how safe NYC is and how it isnt listed as dangerous per statistics. I pointed out that you made my point for me. As the vast majority of those cities are run by Democrats. My initial comment was that Democrats and their policies perpetuate crime. Again, you made my point for me. Thank you

Actually you missed the mark. The point of the thread was to blame the GOVERNOR of New York for NYC crime. You moved the goalposts by blaming the mayors of the cities rather than the governors. Pretty simple to understand.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

Actually you missed the mark. The point of the thread was to blame the GOVERNOR of New York for NYC crime. You moved the goalposts by blaming the mayors of the cities rather than the governors. Pretty simple to understand.

We can do this all day, I'd rather not though. I never once mentioned cities in any of my initial remarks. I made a comment generalizing Democrats and their policies as the foundation of lawlessness in the country (synopsis). You replied to that comment by posting two separate links showing that NYC (the crown jewel of the Empire State) is not listed among the most dangerous. You brought cities into the discussion, not me.

I merely pointed out that by trying to make your point that NYC is not as crime ridden as people claim it is, you helped me make my point that Democrat policies do contribute to high crime rates as I showed 8 of the 10 cities on one such list are governed by a Democrat. Again thank you for your contribution!