New theory ..Daniel's 4th beast is not Rome but is yet to be revealed..

[Grip Docility]

For your information, the Dispensationalists and Futurists misinterpreted Zechariah 14 because they believe this has to do with the physical war against modern national Israel nor the Second Coming. God did not talk about that. If you read the article below, it will show biblically that this has to do more with the FIRST Coming of Christ, the Fall of Old Testament Congregation (mountain divided) to make the way for the remanent escape into the New Testament congregation, where Christ becomes a chief cornerstone and built the church under the Feast of Tabernacle since Pentecost. Spiritual discernment!

To learn more about it, may read the following article below:

Feast of Tabernacle

Acts 1 and Zechariah 14, though.

For your information.

 

[dfw69]

Joel 3, though

Lots of scripture ....not sure what you want me to see...are you making a case against Islam?

 

[Grip Docility]

Lots of scripture ....not sure what you want me to see...are you making a case against Islam?

Well, I’m pointing out it inhabits most Beast territory intimately.

In opinion.

 

[dfw69]

Islam would serve that deception well.

It’s like the Pharisees that persecuted Christ, but worse.

The Anti Christ does take over the Holy City.

Sorry did not see this reply till now...

I'm not sure what's really going on over there...rumor is Jews want to return to the old ways and it is them that persecute Arab and Palestines...they believe the philistine must be put down ....they believe that's their land ...they once walked in peace with Arabs but Zionism is rising and taking thier land back....some Arabs do rise up in retaliation but in vain

 

[Grip Docility]

Sorry did not see this reply till now...

I'm not sure what's really going on over there...rumor is Jews want to return to the old ways and it is them that persecute Arab and Palestines...they believe the philistine must be put down ....they believe that's their land ...they once walked in peace with Arabs but Zionism is rising and taking thier land back....some Arabs do rise up in retaliation but in vain

This is where I have to disagree.

I have researched the matter in horrific depth. That is not the case.

Israel is a sliver amongst a vast land of people that ache to wipe it out.

I believe Jesus is the One true temple of God. I don’t support the temple rebuilding.

 

[dfw69]

Well, I’m pointing out it inhabits most Beast territory intimately.

In opinion.

Sure and I understand but your seeing things from current events....what they want us to see and believe....but wht if the end times is much farther away ....the world under the sun in those days will be much different from today ...

Lets say Islam nations do unite under some caliph or messiah type...what then?...say Israel gets the victory ...and we Christians expect Jesus right?...but instead they will say God gave them the victory and they begin to establish the kingdom without Jesus...what will that say to Christians? Will Christians fall away because Jesus did not show up? ....truth is , the true prophetic events will still be a way off down the road....

 

[Grip Docility]

Sure and I understand but your seeing things from current events....what they want us to see and believe....but wht if the end times is much farther away ....the world under the sun in those days will be much different from today ...

Lets say Islam nations do unite under some caliph or messiah type...what then?...say Israel gets the victory ...and we Christians expect Jesus right?...but instead they will say God gave them the victory and they begin to establish the kingdom without Jesus...what will that say to Christians? Will Christians fall away because Jesus did not show up? ....truth is , the true prophetic events will still be a way off down the road....

That is where we must be vigilant, but acknowledge that what will be, will be and the Lord will place us where we best serve in such matters.

To know exact details is impossible.

But, Islam sure does seem to be growing and not passing.

 

[dfw69]

This is where I have to disagree.

I have researched the matter in horrific depth. That is not the case.

I mean why can't they live in peace ?....just love one another ...treat each other right and fair.....its basics...like kids playing with one another ..but something more sinister is afoot ...but ok ...

Israel is a sliver amongst a vast land of people that ache to wipe it out.

But why?...hatred just does not appear for no reason unless injustice has been committed in some form ...

I believe Jesus is the One true temple of God. I don’t support the temple rebuilding.

I agree ....imo the temple is bad news bro no doubt...I see christians post saying "exciting times "....and I'm like smh....

But if Jesus does not return nor rapture us and Judaism rises and a temple is built and a new world order is in placed ....what then ? Seriouly what should we do?.

Obey Judaism? ...obey noachide laws?...pay temple tax the half shekiel if it meant life or death?

 

[TribulationSigns]

Acts 1 and Zechariah 14, though.

For your information.

Your point is?

 

[dfw69]

That is where we must be vigilant, but acknowledge that what will be, will be and the Lord will place is where we best serve in such matters.

To know exact details is impossible.

But, Islam sure does seem to be geowing and not passing.

Yeah


I'm at a place of wondering what to do if my theory is correct and the temple is built ...and a new world order comes......what should I do as a Christian? ...die for Jesus?...obey the laws of the land?...is it lawful to walk in the noachide laws?.... Convert is not an option ...but jesus did say whoever seeks to save his life shall loose it....in those days, death would be better than to covert imo...for conversion would mean to deny Jesus

 

[Grip Docility]

I mean why can't they live in peace ?....just love one another ...treat each other right and fair.....its basics...like kids playing with one another ..but something more sinister is afoot ...but ok ...

But why?...hatred just does not appear for no reason unless injustice has been committed in some form ...

I agree ....imo the temple is bad news bro no doubt...I see christians post saying "exciting times "....and I'm like smh....

But if Jesus does not return nor rapture us and Judaism rises and a temple is built and a new world order is in placed ....what then ? Seriouly what should we do?.

Obey Judaism ...obey noachide laws...pay temple tax the half shekiel if it meant life or death?

Read books written by Muslim Palistinians that became Christians.

Eye opening.

 

[dfw69]

Read books written by Muslim Palistinians that became Christians.

Eye opening.

Any one in particular?

 

[Grip Docility]

Yeah


I'm at a place of wondering what to do if my theory is correct and they temple is built ...and a new world order comes......what should I do as a Christian? ...die for Jesus?...obey the laws of the land?...is it lawful to walk in the noachide laws?.... Convert is not an option ...but jesus did say whatever seeks to save his life shall loose it....in those days, death would be better than to covert imo...for conversion would mean deny Jesus

Fear not, Brother. Jesus knows your devotion and will guide you through all.

 

[dfw69]

Fear not, Brother. Jesus knows your devotion and will guide you through all.

Amen bro ....thanks for your encouragement...

 

[Grip Docility]

Your point is?

“A sabbath day Journey”, away.

 

[Grip Docility]

Amen bro ....thanks for your encouragement...

I remember the terror of really seeing how far wrong Western eschatology was and seeing the real horrors of the East.

I Love you, in Christ, Brother, and assure He wants us to hold our peace.

Your courage and study, mixed with humility and sincere search, that is open, is a blessing.

Thank you, as well. <3

 

[dfw69]

I remember the terror of really seeing how far wrong Western eschatology was and seeing the real horrors of the East.

I Love you, in Christ, Brother, and assure He wants us to hold our peace.

Your courage and study, mixed with humility and sincere search, that is open, is a blessing.

Thank you, as well. <3

I just try to grip docility....

 

[Grip Docility]

Amen bro ....thanks for your encouragement...

Daniel 10:12 is the key to what you are praying to understand.

I’m passing it on. I reached a point I desired peace over knowing things I couldn’t do anything to change. I have large gaps of questions that I prefer to remain there.

I’m very sincere. Christ bless, keep and preserve you to eternity.

 

[dfw69]

Daniel 10:12 is the key to what you are praying to understand.

I’m passing it on. I reached a point I desired peace over knowing things I couldn’t do anything to change. I have large gaps of questions that I prefer to remain there.

I’m very sincere. Christ bless, keep and preserve you to eternity.

Yes good scripture ...God answers prayers....thanks bro

Same to you man..
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.I'm hoping my rapture theory turns out to be true ...if not ...its gonna be a long night so to speak....

 

[TribulationSigns]

“A sabbath day Journey”, away.

What? Explain yourself.