New theory ..Daniel's 4th beast is not Rome but is yet to be revealed..

[Grip Docility]

What? Explain yourself.

Acts 1 the Quote is the key to word search for and the preceding scripture is mega important.

 

[Grip Docility]

Any one in particular?

Not really. They all reveal the same thing and it is horrific!

 

[TribulationSigns]

Acts 1 the Quote is the key to word search for and the preceding scripture is mega important.

I’m not going to do your game. You need to quote scripture and explain your position concerning Zechariah 14. If you don’t, please shut up. So far, You don’t know how to explain ur position. Speak up and explain yourself else shut up. Simple as that.

 

[Grip Docility]

I’m not going to do your game. You need to quote scripture and explain your position concerning Zechariah 14. If you don’t, please shut up. So far, You don’t know how to explain ur position. Speak up and explain yourself else shut up. Simple as that.

My position is irrelevant.

All Love to you, Brother.

I’m pretty difficult to “shut up”.

 

[dfw69]

I’m not going to do your game. You need to quote scripture and explain your position concerning Zechariah 14. If you don’t, please shut up. So far, You don’t know how to explain ur position. Speak up and explain yourself else shut up. Simple as that.

Dude you don't have to be so rude...that man does not have to answer your questions if he chooses not to do so....who are you?

 

[dfw69]

My position is irrelevant.

All Love to you, Brother.

I’m pretty difficult to “shut up”.

Probably best to ignore this guy...

 

[TribulationSigns]

Dude you don't have to be so rude...that man does not have to answer your questions if he chooses not to do so....who are you?

Do you really realize that Grip did not want to answer or explain his position upfront when asked but instead telling us to look up in Act 1 and Zechariah 14 and expected us to figure out his position? Really, that is absurd. That is not how biblical discussion works. I have explained my position with Scripture to you earlier today, and a link to an article explaining Feast of the Tabernacles of Zechariah 14 in details, UNLIKE GRIP.

Who am I is irrelevant. Focus on discussion/subject, not a persona. If ANYONE can't answer my question honestly and without Scripture support, then don't say anything.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Probably best to ignore this guy...

Doesn't matter. I will refute anyone post, Lord willing, for anyone to read.

 

[TribulationSigns]

My position is irrelevant.

Of course. Your position can't be considered as long as you won't explain it.

All Love to you, Brother.

Getting into sentimentality instead of honest discussion won't do you any good.

 

[dfw69]

Do you really realize that Grip did not want to answer or explain his position upfront when asked but instead telling us to look up in Act 1 and Zechariah 14 and expected us to figure out his position? Really, that is absurd. That is not how biblical discussion works. I have explained my position with Scripture to you earlier today, and a link to an article explaining Feast of the Tabernacles of Zechariah 14 in details, UNLIKE GRIP.

Who am I is irrelevant. Focus on discussion/subject, not a persona. If ANYONE can't answer my question honestly and without Scripture support, then don't say anything.

I don't know if you guys have any beef with each other but man telling another man to shut up is not Christian or mature ....lets just try to get past this without any nonsense ok?

 

[Grip Docility]

I don't know if you guys have any beef with each other but man telling another man to shut up is not Christian or mature ....lets just try to get past this without any nonsense ok?

No beef here. Erm, I do like Brisket, but no Beef with @TribulationSigns , on my part.

He’s still my Brother in Christ.

 

[dfw69]

No beef here. Erm, I do like Brisket, but no Beef with @TribulationSigns , on my part.

He’s still my Brother in Christ.

That he is....

 

[dfw69]

Doesn't matter. I will refute anyone post, Lord willing, for anyone to read.

Refute away but lets do things unto edification and love as good witnesses for Jesus ...not provoking one another

 

[dfw69]

Grip ...I'm just curious as to why you did not answer him directly?

 

[Grip Docility]

Grip ...I'm just curious as to why you did not answer him directly?

If someone is genuinely interested in someone else’s view, the search is exciting.

I also believe 1 John 2:27

Also, I was providing an exciting opportunity to see a possible perspective and desiring to see if the idea I am currently at would be reached from the reading.

Humility was something involved, as well.

 

[dfw69]

If someone is genuinely interested in someone else’s view, the search is exciting.

I also believe 1 John 2:27

Also, I was providing an exciting opportunity to see a possible perspective and desiring to see if the idea I am currently at would be reached from the reading.

Humility was something involved, as well.

I see ....well I like to be taught ones view but that's one way to go...

 

[Douggg]

I mean why can't they live in peace ?....just love one another ...treat each other right and fair.....its basics...like kids playing with one another ..but something more sinister is afoot ...but ok ...

dfw, in the case of Islam, one of the basics of that religion is if any lands become under muslim control - should muslims lose control of it - then muslims can't rest until it is back under muslims control. Which means muslims impose muslim sharia law in those lands. Who in their right mind wants that?

 

[Douggg]

There is one more spin on this,

Israel is the center point and all kingdoms that rule over her are of the beast.

In Revelation 17:10 it is kings, not kingdoms. Daniel 7 indicates that the little horn and ten kings are of the fourth kingdom - that is what is in the text.

A 7 headed dragon is in revelation and it’s heads could be seen like so;

Egypt
Assyria
Babylon
Persia
Greece
Rome
Islam (Ottomon Empire)

It is kings, not kingdoms, in the text.

The 7th is wounded and an 8th that “was one of the 7” and encompasses all Beast geography will take hold as the full power of Satan. It’s a theory

You are taking the wrong approach. Overall, study the end times prophecies to track the arch villain of the end times. He is on two tracks...

1. To become the Antichrist - the King of Israel, illegitimate. What does the person do that makes the Jews think he is the promised great king of Israel?

2. To become the little horn in Daniel 7 and 8 before the seven years begin. And for the second part of the 7 years, the beast - both as King of the fourth empire, the Roman Empire, in the end times the EU.

Most of Revelation is about the person when he is the King of the Roman Emire, in the end times the EU.

In Revelation 13, the composite makeup of the beast indicates that the EU will have gained control of the territories once belonging to Babylonian, Medes-Persians, Greek empires. Which is basically hold the oild rich territories in the middle east.

 

[Grip Docility]

In Revelation 17:10 it is kings, not kingdoms. Daniel 7 indicates that the little horn and ten kings are of the fourth kingdom - that is what is in the text.

It is kings, not kingdoms, in the text.


You are taking the wrong approach. Overall, study the end times prophecies to track the arch villain of the end times. He is on two tracks...

1. To become the Antichrist - the King of Israel, illegitimate. What does the person do that makes the Jews think he is the promised great king of Israel?

2. To become the little horn in Daniel 7 and 8 before the seven years begin. And for the second part of the 7 years, the beast - both as King of the fourth empire, the Roman Empire, in the end times the EU.

Most of Revelation is about the person when he is the King of the Roman Emire, in the end times the EU.

In Revelation 13, the composite makeup of the beast indicates that the EU will have gained control of the territories once belonging to Babylonian, Medes-Persians, Greek empires. Which is basically hold the oild rich territories in the middle east.

For me, each diadem represents a man in power, but the body and heads represent nation and geography.

In my opinion.

 

[Grip Docility]

dfw, in the case of Islam, one of the basics of that religion is if any lands become under muslim control - should muslims lose control of it - then muslims can't rest until it is back under muslims control. Which means muslims impose muslim sharia law in those lands. Who in their right mind wants that?

This is true.