New Jerusalem vs Babylon the Great

[Douggg]

Sounds like you have not received the truth of my testimony concerning Revelation 11:1-2. The whole Holy City of Revelation 11 is NOT a physical city in Jerusalem. Rather it represent the congregation of God all over the world making up of TWO GROUPS OF PEOPLE. The Elect and Professed Christians.

John was told to measure the temple, not the city.

The two witnesses will lie dead in the streets of Jerusalem - not a spiritualized city.

In literal fashion? No. I already explained the purpose of measuring the temple, the altar and those who worships.

You came up with no measurement in terms of a reed, or say a yardstick.

 

[Douggg]

What temple did Christ said that will be destroyed and what temple will Christ rebuilt in three days where He will be a chief cornerstone?

His body. Did anyone measure Jesus's body with a reed, or tape measure?

John was given a reed like unto a rod, and told to measure a physical temple - like those built with the aid of rods - the ancient equivalent of a construction layout tape. Rods were also used in constructing things level, the equivalent of a construction rod, or engineers rod.

 

[TribulationSigns]

John was told to measure the temple, not the city.

Read again:

Rev 11:1-2
(1) And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
(2) But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Both the temple and the court are part of the holy city, Selah!

The two witnesses will lie dead in the streets of Jerusalem - not a spiritualized city.

You misunderstood. The church is the EARTHLY REPRESENTATON of this spiritualized city! And that is WHY Jerusalem is used as a SIGN, FIGURE, or TOKEN of this spiritual Jerusalem! Selah!

The believers being dead or lifeless in the streets [plateia] or wide space of this great city signifies their state in the midst of the Church. The witness of God is no longer tolerated there and the power that these had to preach the Word of God there has been taken from them. They have been overcome and silenced by the beast released from the pit by God. This does not affect their Salvation of course, and that is why Revelation 7 says they all had to be sealed first before beast comes out of the bottomess pit! But the beast affects their witness or testimony in the Churches. They cannot effectively preach in the external covenant Church (court) anymore because the spirit of Satan is ruling there!! And the leaders (false prophets and christs) have departed from the faith unto doctrines of devils!

Rev 13:11
(11) And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

This beast is the army of false prophets and christs pretend to have power of God but is of the devils! This is why God says of this great city that, it is 'spiritually' called Sodom and Egypt. Because though the external Church still retains the name of Christ and is part of the city, SPIRITUALLY SPEAKING it has become as these two cities which were infamous for their abominations and bondage to Satan.

Rev 18:2
(2) And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

God is talking about false prophets and christts having the SPIRIT OF ANTICHRIST that will deceive many people of God's congregation to turn from God and forsake His laws. God speaks of them in the spiritual sense as being in bondage of Egypt and in the abominations of Sodom.

See this has NOTHING to do with physical city of Jerusalem, Judea or Jews as your carnal mind liked you to believe. You are looking at wrong place because you have denied that the church is a representative of God's Kingdom on earth through the Church.

You came up with no measurement in terms of a reed, or say a yardstick.

Again you did not read carefully what I said about the rod of a reed earlier. It has spiritual meaning if you look up in Scripture yourself. Else you are blind with your own carnal thinking. God did not ask John to measure something physically in a vision! For exmaple:

Rev 21:15-17
(15) And he that talked with me had a golden reed to measure the city, and the gates thereof, and the wall thereof.
(16) And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal.
(17) And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred and forty and four cubits, according to the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.

It is not a physical city but a spiritual city with exact dimension of all Elect from the Old Testament and the New - the 144,000!

Rev 7:3-4
(3) Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
(4) And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Rev 7:9
(9) After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

John heard the number, 144,000 to symbolize ALL the children of Isarel...in CHRIST that he SAW as a result! All Saints of the Old Testament and New Testament are the stones of the New Jerusalem, a Great City that Christ rebuilt! Not some physical city, but spiritual city for it is being measured of the Saints!

 

[Douggg]

Why would Gentiles want to trample on earthly Jerusalem when the supposed Antichrist supposedly becomes the beast?

It means the gentiles will control the city and suppress anyone opposing the beast, persecuting them, putting them in prison, or executing them.

 

[TribulationSigns]

His body. Did anyone measure Jesus's body with a reed, or tape measure?

John was given a reed like unto a rod, and told to measure a physical temple - like those built with the aid of rods - the ancient equivalent of a construction layout tape. Rods were also used in constructing things level, the equivalent of a construction rod, or engineers rod.

Sigh, you are being silly. Do you honestly think God gave John with rod with measurement like you posted? Really? Have you seen it yourself? How long is that rod John got in his vision, exactly? How big? What color? What material was it made of, humm? Did God tell you? Show me the Scripture then!

 

[Douggg]

Rev 11:1-2
(1) And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
(2) But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Both the temple and the court are part of the holy city, Selah!

The outer court was part of the temple complex. John was told not to measure it, because that is where the gentiles will be allowed to worship.

Revelation 11:1-8, the theme is about the Jews. The worship that will be going on, the daily sacrifice, the temple sanctuary, the inner court, is a function of Jewish activity.

The two witnesses will be in Jerusalem -because their fundamental role is to witness to the Jews.

 

[TribulationSigns]

It means the gentiles will control the city and suppress anyone opposing the beast, persecuting them, putting them in prison, or executing them.

My advise is to stop watching too much "left behind" series and start pay attention to what the Word of God actually talks about.

Rev 13:15
(15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Do you know what is the image of the beast and how it should speak. And who will not worship the image? And how they will be killed?

If you think the image of the beast is some statue standing in the physical temple that speaks, you are mistaken. Please look up in Scripture on what the image of Dear son is before you find out what is the image of the beast.

 

[Douggg]

Sigh, you are being silly. Do you honestly think God gave John with rod with measurement like you posted? Really? Have you seen it yourself? How long is that rod John got in his vision, exactly? How big? What color? What material was it made of, humm? Did God tell you? Show me the Scripture then!

You were trying to make an argument that the temple in Revelation 11 is not physical, by comparing Jesus's body being a temple.

John was given a reed to the measure the temple - so obviously is not speaking metaphorically like Jesus's body being a temple.

 

[Douggg]

My advise is to stop watching too much "left behind" series and start pay attention to what the Word of God actually talks about.

Rev 13:15
(15) And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Do you know what is the image of the beast and how it should speak. And who will not worship the image? And how they will be killed?

In Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The statue image of the beast, when Satan is cast down to earth, having but a time/times/half time left will incarnate the mute/lifeless statue image making it appear to come to life and speak.

Antiochus prefigured the end times abomination of desolation by placing a statue image of Zeus in the temple.

When Jesus returns, He will melt away the facade of the statue image, turning it to ashes, exposing Satan before kings, and everyone that had worshiped the statue image.

Ezekiel 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffick; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.

19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

 

[TribulationSigns]

The outer court was part of the temple complex. John was told not to measure it, because that is where the gentiles will be allowed to worship.

Sigh!!!

Do you realize that the Word is a spiritual rod which CORRECTS His People by showing them what the true form, and thus we see the symbolism here of measurement! It has NOTHING to do with measuring of physical things! It was given John to MEASURE the temple of God, and the altar and them that worship therein. For example, The Word "IS" the rule of God, the very yardstick against which the Temple body and worshippers therein may be TESTED for trueness! And this is "EXPLICITLY" shown to be true in an almost identical episode of this command to measure the Temple which is recorded in the book of Ezekiel:

Ezekiel 40:5

• "And behold a wall on the outside of the house round about, and in the man's hand a measuring reed of six cubits long by the cubit of a hand breadth: so He measured the breadth of the building, one reed; and the height, one reed."

Again, this language of measuring the Temple of God signifies showing the true dimensions of the Temple. In other words, describe what true form it is. It's synonymous with 'declaring the true God,' for He is the true Temple. When we witness or preach the gospel faithfully, we are declaring God's Temple, that people will know that the house we visualize is in accordance with God's Word. We are showing the people the house of God that they can compare it against the house that they are serving in. And if they are not that very same house, with the very same dimensions or conformity, then they should repent and turn to 'this God' and serve Him in 'this house.' Measuring the Temple is how we check or examine things to make sure we serve in the true house of God. This isn't my speculation or a private interpretation of the passages, it is confirmed thoroughly in the book of Ezekiel. The context of Ezekiel is that He is having the same type visions of God which the Apostle John is having, and when speaking about this measuring.

Revelation 11:1-8, the theme is about the Jews. The worship that will be going on, the daily sacrifice, the temple sanctuary, the inner court, is a function of Jewish activity.

Nope!

Revelation 11:1-8 is about Elect having the power to testify God's Word to the World. They will not spew fire out of their mouth upon enemy if you will ever bother to check with rest of Scripture:

Jer 5:14
(14) Wherefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, Because ye speak this word, behold, I will make my words in thy mouth fire, and this people wood, and it shall devour them.

Same language! The Word of God that we testify with our mouth is as fire upon the enemy. You need to learn to start compare Revelation 11 with the rest of Scripture instead of take verses out of context and make it a literal fulfillment with strange idea of men spewing fires.

The two witnesses will be in Jerusalem -because their fundamental role is to witness to the Jews.

Jerusalem in Revelation 11 is the Church, a spiritual Judea with spiritual Jews and Gentiles, the Elect and Professed Christians. Elect will flee to the mountain of God while the rest stays in the church to be deceived by false prophets and Christ. This is why Christ warned, "whoso readeth, let him undersand". It obviously called for spiritual understanding -- something that we need to study to have wisdom of Christ. Not something you can make up based on what you read in Jerusalem Post!

Anyway, if you want to believe that God is talking about a physical city in the Middle East where two men will warn the Jews after the church raptured out, will start spew fire out of their mouths upon enemies or caused the rain to stop falling, before finally being killed by a man called "Antichrist", go ahead and sit in the sand of the Middle East thinking things will be physically fulfilled but it won't happen. You are totally missing the prophecies that are fulfilling right now. Only the signs that the Elect can "see."

Regarding our doctrines, as I always said, The Lord judges and I am comfortable with it.

 

[TribulationSigns]

View attachment 310227

And your charts are biblically wrong, too...

 

[Douggg]

Again, this language of measuring the Temple of God signifies showing the true dimensions of the Temple. In other words, describe what true form it is. It's synonymous with 'declaring the true God,' for He is the true Temple. When we witness or preach the gospel faithfully, we are declaring God's Temple, that people will know that the house we visualize is in accordance with God's Word. We are showing the people the house of God that they can compare it against the house that they are serving in. And if they are not that very same house, with the very same dimensions or conformity, then they should repent and turn to 'this God' and serve Him in 'this house.' Measuring the Temple is how we check or examine things to make sure we serve in the true house of God. This isn't my speculation or a private interpretation of the passages, it is confirmed thoroughly in the book of Ezekiel. The context of Ezekiel is that He is having the same type visions of God which the Apostle John is having, and when speaking about this measuring.

Are there people inside you? And an altar?

1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

 

[grafted branch]

The SAME Greek word for rod. And again it is u sed in the sense of rule and the strength of it in smiting or correction. The rod has always been a symbol of rule in the Scripture. For example:

If the rod represents rule and it’s used for smiting and correction, why is New Jerusalem or the body of Christ smitten twice? Once by John in Revelation 11 and once by the angel in Revelation 21.

 

[Douggg]

Ezekiel 40:5

• "And behold a wall on the outside of the house round about, and in the man's hand a measuring reed of six cubits long by the cubit of a hand breadth: so He measured the breadth of the building, one reed; and the height, one reed."

Again, this language of measuring the Temple of God signifies showing the true dimensions of the Temple.

The house in Ezekiel 40 is not the temple, but the Lord's house, i.e. Jesus's house.

The temple is in Ezekiel 41.....

1 Afterward he brought me to the temple, and measured the posts, six cubits broad on the one side, and six cubits broad on the other side, which was the breadth of the tabernacle.

And they are physical structures, not spiritualized concepts.

 

[Zao is life]

The New Jerusalem in Revelation 21 is a separate issue than John's measuring of the temple in Revelation 11.

Separate by over a thousand years.

The temple in Revelation 11 is not a "New Testament Teimple". It will be a physical temple, on the temple mount, in Jerusalem.

No. The New Jerusalem is not separated by a thousand years between the New Testament temple John is speaking of in Revelation 11:1-2 and the New Heavens and New Earth. There is no thousand-year gap between the blessing of those who came out from great tribulation and the blessing described in New Jerusalem:

Key statements in each of the two passages below:

1. Throne of God/Tabernacle of God with the people mentioned below.
2. God will wipe away all tears from their eyes.
3. They will drink from the fountain of the water of life freely.

Revelation 7
13 And one of the elders answered, saying to me, Who are these who are arrayed in white robes, and from where do they come?
14 And I said to him, Sir, you know. And he said to me, These are the ones who came out of great tribulation and have washed their robes, and have whitened them in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore they are before the throne of God, and they serve Him day and night in His temple. And He sitting on the throne will dwell among them.
16 They will not hunger any more, nor thirst any more, nor will the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will feed them and will lead them to the fountains of living waters. And God will wipe away all tears from their eyes.

Revelation 21
1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth. For the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. And the sea no longer is.
2 And I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of Heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her Husband.
3 And I heard a great voice out of Heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they will be His people, and God Himself will be with them and be their God.
4 And God will wipe away all tears from their eyes. And there will be no more death, nor mourning, nor crying out, nor will there be any more pain; for the first things passed away.
5 And He sitting on the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And He said to me, Write, for these words are true and faithful.
6 And He said to me, It is done. I am the Alpha and Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who thirsts I will give of the fountain of the water of life freely.
7 He who overcomes will inherit all things, and I will be his God, and he will be My son.
8 But the fearful, and the unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, will have their part in the Lake burning with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.

The saints who come out of the great tribulation are seen in New Jerusalem immediately following the close of this current Age.

 

[TribulationSigns]

Are there people inside you? And an altar?

1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

You are being ridiculous. You were not paying attention to what I wrote so please read again slowly:

"Therefore, the house of God MEASURED is the form of Christ. Revelation 11 clearly tells us WHO, WHAT and HOW these are to be MEASURED. The Temple, the Altar, and those that worship thereini are to be MEASURED with the reed like a rod. it is by NO MEANS the measuring of a physical literal temple as Doug believe because the believers are "also" to be measured. But this is signifying the measuring of RIGHTEOUSNESS for the exhortation and correction of the body of Christ. Let me break this down for Doug to understand:

1.) The HOLY TEMPLE is measured: Imagery of the body or tabernacle of Christ. He is the true Holy Temple of heaven into which only the righteous enter. And being in 'this form' (Romans 8:29) is the only way anyone can measure up, that they can see the Kingdom of God.

2.) The ALTAR is measured: Imagery of the righteous work of Christ, the 'only' way (Hebrews 10:19-20) to enter and become Holy. Christ was laid on that Altar and his blood shed for His people, and that is what makes those who worship in this Holy Temple 'measured' as righteous, that they can conform to it's true dimensions

3.) The PEOPLE are measured: Imagery that those who worship in 'this' Holy Temple are righteous living stones (because they are in Christ, who was sacrificed for them) that they can be measured as inclusive in the Lord's House (Ephesians 2:13)."

 

[TribulationSigns]

The house in Ezekiel 40 is not the temple, but the Lord's house, i.e. Jesus's house.

Just wow. To deny the temple in Ezekiel 40 to be the Lord's House is absurd!

Didn't you read the Scripture? When Jesus' earthly parent found child Jesus in the temple:

Luk 2:48-49
(48) And when his parents saw him, they were astonished. And his mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us so? Behold, your father and I have been searching for you in great distress.”
(49) And he said to them, “Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father's house?”

Where was found at? Of course, the Temple. Likewise...later Jesus went to the temple:

Joh 2:15-17
(15) And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
(16) And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
(17) And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.

Wasn't the temple a house of the Lord where Christ threw the sellers and buyers out?

Therefore, Ezekiel was indeed talking about the temple in both chapter! It is NOT a physical temple. You still did not understand the measurement part and probably the house of God too. Only the Spirit of God can help you understand.

Good night!

 

[Zao is life]

Rev 11:1-3
(1) And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
(2) But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.
(3) And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

What @Douggg fails to realize is that the "reed like unto a rod" was used to measure to show God's scepter is for rule in "CORRECTING" any deviations in His House, sacrifice or people! We read the same illustration carefully as seen in the language of Revelation chapter 2.

Rev 2:27
(27) And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

The SAME Greek word for rod. And again it is u sed in the sense of rule and the strength of it in smiting or correction. The rod has always been a symbol of rule in the Scripture. For example:

Psa 110:2
(2) The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

Eze 19:14
(14) And fire is gone out of a rod of her branches, which hath devoured her fruit, so that she hath no strong rod to be a sceptre to rule. This is a lamentation, and shall be for a lamentation.

This reed or stick we see in Revelation is the rule of God used for MEASURING the temple, but is also likened unto a rod to symbolize it is a rod of CORRECTION from this ruler God. Correction to those who are His children, whom He loves.

Selah!

Therefore, the house of God MEASURED is the form of Christ. Revelation 11 clearly tells us WHO, WHAT and HOW these are to be MEASURED. The Temple, the Altar, and those that worship thereini are to be MEASURED with the reed like a rod. it is by NO MEANS the measuring of a physical literal temple as Doug believe because the believers are "also" to be measured. But this is signifying the measuring of RIGHTEOUSNESS for the exhortation and correction of the body of Christ. Let me break this down for Doug to understand:

1.) The HOLY TEMPLE is measured: Imagery of the body or tabernacle of Christ. He is the true Holy Temple of heaven into which only the righteous enter. And being in 'this form' (Romans 8:29) is the only way anyone can measure up, that they can see the Kingdom of God.

2.) The ALTAR is measured: Imagery of the righteous work of Christ, the 'only' way (Hebrews 10:19-20) to enter and become Holy. Christ was laid on that Altar and his blood shed for His people, and that is what makes those who worship in this Holy Temple 'measured' as righteous, that they can conform to it's true dimensions

3.) The PEOPLE are measured: Imagery that those who worship in 'this' Holy Temple are righteous living stones (because they are in Christ, who was sacrificed for them) that they can be measured as inclusive in the Lord's House (Ephesians 2:13).

And don't forget that the messenger stood, and says "rise" [egeiro] (meaning to raise up) and measure these things. It is not that John was laying down, but is language signifying that those who measure the Temple of God ust be those who are "risen in Christ" first. Christ is our support, as He is the first risen from the dead. And because He is risen and is our support, we also rise. it is by His power and through His faith that we have ability to conform to His Image. Pleaes read 1st Corth 15:20 and Romans 8:29 where the very same Greek word "rise" is used. It is signified in the symbology of John, when we are called of god to measure the Holy Temple, we also are commanded to be risen up together with Christ, and be confirmed (measured) into His image. the image of the Holy Temple with EXACT DIMENSIONS. Indeed, that is the only way we will even have true knowledge of the "true" dimensions of the Temple of Heaven, unlike Doug's literal interpretation of the vision.

Thank you for the above. Very useful and important facts, so I also appreciated seeing it.

@Douggg The word for rod in Revelation 11:1 is also seen in Revelation 12:5 & Revelation 19:15 (the rod of iron); and also in 1 Corinthians 4:21:
"What do you desire? Shall I come to you with a rod, or in love and the spirit of meekness?"
It's also seen in Revelation 12:5 & Revelation 19:15 (the rod of iron).

However (just to point this out to @TribulationSigns), egeiro is not always found in reference to the resurrection. There are many verses where it is not. I'm going to quote some where it is not used in reference to the resurrection and examples where it is:

Examples where it is not are Matthew 2:13; Matthew 8:15; Matthew 8:25; Matthew 24:11; Acts 10:26 (and there are a good few other verses where egeiro is not in reference to the resurrection).

Egeiro is more often used in reference to the resurrection than to anything else. Examples where egeiro is used in reference to the resurrection, where egeiro is the verb, and anastasis (THE resurrection) is the noun, are-

1 Corinthians 15:12-15
"Now if Christ be preached that he rose [ ἐγείρω (egeirō) ] from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection [ ἀνάστασις (anastasis) ] of the dead?
But if there be no resurrection [ ἀνάστασις (anastasis) ] of the dead, then is Christ not risen [ ἐγείρω (egeirō) ].
And if Christ be not risen [ ἐγείρω (egeirō) ], then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up [ ἐγείρω (egeirō) ] Christ: whom he raised [ ἐγείρω (egeirō) ] not up, if so be that the dead rise [ ἐγείρω (egeirō) ] not."

1 Corinthians 15:20-23
“But now is Christ risen [ ἐγείρω (egeirō) ] from the dead, and become the fristfruits [ ἀπαρχή (aparchē) ] of them that slept (koimaō). For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection (anastasis) of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive [ ζωοποιέω, ( zōopoieō) ].

συνεγείρω (synegeírō): Risen with Christ

When syn appears prefixed to egeírō (synegeírō), it shows that the resurrection of the individual believer in Christ is something which occurs with Christ's resurrection. It's the same prefix we get with words like synthesis and synchronize.

Colossians 3:1
"If ye then be risen with [συνεγείρω synegeírō] Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God."

Compare the above with Romans 6:5:
"For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:"

 

[Douggg]

@Douggg The word for rod in Revelation 11:1 is also seen in Revelation 12:5 & Revelation 19:15 (the rod of iron); and also in 1 Corinthians 4:21:
"What do you desire? Shall I come to you with a rod, or in love and the spirit of meekness?"
It's also seen in Revelation 12:5 & Revelation 19:15 (the rod of iron).

I understand. Rod, though, can be used in several ways. As a measuring tool. And differently, as in spare the rod and spoil the child, as a means of disciplining.

As a side note - in surveying, the steel measuring tape surveyors used before the days of what is called the total station, was called a "chain". My background is engineering, and I have done some surveying myself - 40 years ago

 

[Zao is life]

Just wow. To deny the temple in Ezekiel 40 to be the Lord's House is absurd!

Didn't you read the Scripture? When Jesus' earthly parent found child Jesus in the temple:

Luk 2:48-49
(48) And when his parents saw him, they were astonished. And his mother said to him, “Son, why have you treated us so? Behold, your father and I have been searching for you in great distress.”
(49) And he said to them, “Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father's house?”

Where was found at? Of course, the Temple. Likewise...later Jesus went to the temple:

Joh 2:15-17
(15) And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
(16) And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.
(17) And his disciples remembered that it was written, The zeal of thine house hath eaten me up.

Wasn't the temple a house of the Lord where Christ threw the sellers and buyers out?

Therefore, Ezekiel was indeed talking about the temple in both chapter! It is NOT a physical temple. You still did not understand the measurement part and probably the house of God too. Only the Spirit of God can help you understand.

Good night!

Copy @Douggg I believe that (possibly) Ezekiel's temple is symbolic of the temple in the New Heavens and New Earth: