New Indian textbooks purged of nation’s Muslim history

[durangodawood]

Well, how 'bout that!?

And academia thinks the Crusades were a Christian undertaking!

Of course they were.

Did God tell His children to kill each other?

Who knows? He's certainly done it before according to the Bible.

 

[AV1611VET]

They were all Christians acting in the belief that it was their duty to rape, pillage and murder their fellow Christians in the name of God.

Methinks Occam needs a barber who can put two and two together.

Why not stop dancing around and just accept that Christians frequently behave badly ...

I'll do better than that.

Christians are sinners, saved by grace.

... and that Christianity is not the moral Disneyland you'd like it to be?

"Moral Disneyland" is a contradiction in terms.

 

[AV1611VET]

The excommunication was revoked the following year (1203).

So?

In any case it doesn't matter.

Actually it does.

The point we're arguing is about judging Christians by what they do - not what they say.

They have to be Christians first, before you judge them as Christians though ... right?

In this case an entire Christian army ...

* cough *

... and its leaders were happy to rape, pillage and murder fellow Christians ...

"Fellow" Christians?

So it's a nice Sunday day out.

People are in church worshiping God in song and fellowship.

And suddenly an army shows up to rape, pillage and murder them.

And, of course, they're going to claim it's in the name of God.

So one of the church members gets his Bible and attempts to show this army that it can't possibly be in the name of God, and he gets diced up.

Years later, academians claim this army was doing the right thing; and you expect me to agree with that???

... in the name of God and profit.

We know better though, don't we?

 

[AV1611VET]

Of course they were.

Who knows?

You just contradicted yourself.

He's certainly done it before according to the Bible.

What school taught you that?

 

[RDKirk]

Nope. You need to read a little history. Christian zealotry killed a lot of people. The First Crusade (for instance) was set in motion at the behest of Urban ll as a call to Christians to claim Jerusalem from pagan occupation.

By the time Urban II made that call, Muslims had gone far beyond Jerusalem to invade deeply into what had been Christian Europe and Asia (as "Asia" was considered at that time) and had become a significant existential threat. Remember that Jerusalem had been Christian as well, so that wasn't an invasion of Muslim territory, that was the re-taking of Christian territory.

 

[AV1611VET]

Remember that Jerusalem had been Christian as well, so that wasn't an invasion of Muslim territory, that was the re-taking of Christian territory.

Jesus said Jerusalem would be trodden down of the gentiles, until He came back.

It's what is called: "The times of the Gentiles."

But the Crusaders thought they would jump the gun and liberate Jerusalem themselves.

Crusaders: "Don't worry, Jesus. We'll handle this."

And they got a wake-up call.

Just like the Israelites did when God said they would wander in the wilderness for forty years because of their unbelief.

They had a quick change of mind and entered the Promised Land gung-ho.

And got a reality check.

Numbers 14:40 And they rose up early in the morning, and gat them up into the top of the mountain, saying, Lo, we be here, and will go up unto the place which the LORD hath promised: for we have sinned.
41 And Moses said, Wherefore now do ye transgress the commandment of the LORD? but it shall not prosper.
42 Go not up, for the LORD is not among you; that ye be not smitten before your enemies.
43 For the Amalekites and the Canaanites are there before you, and ye shall fall by the sword: because ye are turned away from the LORD, therefore the LORD will not be with you.
44 But they presumed to go up unto the hill top: nevertheless the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and Moses, departed not out of the camp.
45 Then the Amalekites came down, and the Canaanites which dwelt in that hill, and smote them, and discomfited them, even unto Hormah.

History repeated itself with the Crusaders.

Hypocritical academia will credit the Crusades as a Christian undertaking, just because the undertakers said they were doing it in the name of God; but won't do the same with the Boston Tea Party crusaders, who dressed themselves up as Indians.

Let Hitler put on a belt buckle that says GOTT MIT UNS, and academia thinks he was a born-again Baptist.

But let the violent Sons of Liberty dress head-to-toe as Native Americans, and academia sees through it.

You couldn't pay me to go to college today.

I'd kill myself first.

 

[AV1611VET]

Who knows? He's certainly done it before according to the Bible.

QV please: My Crusades Challenge

 

[Landon Caeli]

Jesus said Jerusalem would be trodden down of the gentiles, until He came back.

It's what is called: "The times of the Gentiles."

But the Crusaders thought they would jump the gun and liberate Jerusalem themselves.

Crusaders: "Don't worry, Jesus. We'll handle this."

And they got a wake-up call.

Just like the Israelites did when God said they would wander in the wilderness for forty years because of their unbelief.

They had a quick change of mind and entered the Promised Land gung-ho.

And got a reality check.

Numbers 14:40 And they rose up early in the morning, and gat them up into the top of the mountain, saying, Lo, we be here, and will go up unto the place which the LORD hath promised: for we have sinned.
41 And Moses said, Wherefore now do ye transgress the commandment of the LORD? but it shall not prosper.
42 Go not up, for the LORD is not among you; that ye be not smitten before your enemies.
43 For the Amalekites and the Canaanites are there before you, and ye shall fall by the sword: because ye are turned away from the LORD, therefore the LORD will not be with you.
44 But they presumed to go up unto the hill top: nevertheless the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and Moses, departed not out of the camp.
45 Then the Amalekites came down, and the Canaanites which dwelt in that hill, and smote them, and discomfited them, even unto Hormah.

History repeated itself with the Crusaders.

Hypocritical academia will credit the Crusades as a Christian undertaking, just because the undertakers said they were doing it in the name of God; but won't do the same with the Boston Tea Party crusaders, who dressed themselves up as Indians.

Let Hitler put on a belt buckle that says GOTT MIT UNS, and academia thinks he was a born-again Baptist.

But let the violent Sons of Liberty dress head-to-toe as Native Americans, and academia sees through it.

You couldn't pay me to go to college today.

I'd kill myself first.

If it weren't for the crusades, all of Europe would have been Muslim. Watch:

 

[AV1611VET]

If it weren't for the crusades, all of Europe would have been Muslim. Watch:

Interesting that he says THE EXACT SAME THING that academia says about the Crusaders.

To wit, they "robbed, raped, and killed Christians."

Your video doesn't say one thing about the Crusaders robbing, raping, and killing Christians.

In fact, he says the Crusaders "were trying to free their fellow brothers and sisters from Jihad."

Was it so THEY could rob, rape, and kill them?

 

[Landon Caeli]

Interesting that he says THE EXACT SAME THING that academia says about the Crusaders.

To wit, they "robbed, raped, and killed Christians."

Your video doesn't say one thing about the Crusaders robbing, raping, and killing Christians.

In fact, he says the Crusaders "were trying to free their fellow brothers and sisters from Jihad."

Was it so THEY could rob, rape, and kill them?

What..???

The crusades were defensive. Their sole purpose was to defend Europe from Jihad. Remember, if it was rogue battles, not approved by the clergy, it wasn't a legit Crusade.

 

[AV1611VET]

What..???

The crusades were defensive. Their sole purpose was to defend Europe from Jihad. Remember, if it was rogue battles, not approved by the clergy, it wasn't a legit Crusade.

Perhaps Bill Warner, Ph.D., needs to get out a little more and talk to people like Occams Barber?

But I see he's a Ph.D. though, and that explains a lot.

 

[Landon Caeli]

Perhaps Bill Warner, Ph.D., needs to get out a little more and talk to people like Occams Barber?

But I see he's a Ph.D. though, and that explains a lot.

You can side with the Muslim Jihadi's over the Christians if you want to. That's up to you.

 

[AV1611VET]

You can side with the Muslim Jihadi's over the Christians if you want to. That's up to you.

Oh, please.

What kind of twisted logic is that?

How about I just believe that the Crusades were done IN SPITE OF THE BIBLE, and not WITH RESPECT TO IT?

 

[Pommer]

You can side with the Muslim Jihadi's over the Christians if you want to. That's up to you.

“Crusade” is Latin for “jihad”

 

[durangodawood]

You just contradicted yourself.

No I didnt. Those responses were to 2 different questions. Christianity is not God. Christianity is what Christians make it.

What school taught you that?

Its in the Bible. Depends who you think are "children of God" tho.

 

[Landon Caeli]

“Crusade” is Latin for “jihad”

Source

 

[Landon Caeli]

Oh, please.

What kind of twisted logic is that?

How about I just believe that the Crusades were done IN SPITE OF THE BIBLE, and not WITH RESPECT TO IT?

Think of the crusades as the first NATO.

 

[AV1611VET]

Think of the crusades as the first NATO.

I'll pass.

 

[Landon Caeli]

 

[AV1611VET]

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What are they doing when they're not fighting?

You know? between battles?

Are they robbing and raping Christians?