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New Creationist theory on how life spread out after the flood.

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At such a shallow depth,the wheel would have been long gone..decayed.
 
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One problem is people keep moving the goalposts.

One definition of creationism is that God created it all. It makes little to no assumptions of the steps that occurred.

Another, the one most people use is the ones who through a poor reading so scripture propose God did it in 6 days that occurred about 6000 years ago.

Rather large difference.
 
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That is simply not the case. C14 can only be used for very very recent dates anyway. We have tree ring data that goes back over 12,000 years alone that allows us to calibrate C14. And C14 dating is never used for evolution. It only goes back about 60,000 years.If you are conflating C14 dating with radiometric dating then frankly you do not know anywhere near enough about this subject to be commenting on it.
The founder of carbon dating himself even believed it would take no more than 30,000 years for the atmosphere on earth to reach equilibrium. Yet it still has not reached that state, which means the atmosphere can not be more than 30,000 years old.

No,just no. You have made two fatal flaws. The developer of C14 was talking about a start from zero C14 assuming a steady state. There has been some variation, but no insane variation in C14 dating back to 12,000 years.

For evolution, the onus is on the evolutionists to prove their theory correct which they have yet to do. The simple lack of "the missing link" should be enough to make you question evolution.

You are correct about the onus being on evolutionists. You are incorrect about them not providing sufficient evidence to "prove" the theory. And what "missing link"? That was an old term used by skeptics. We have long since filled in most of man's evolution from other apes.


Again, just no. Wrong. Major . We have observed this evolution in the fossil record. By your wording it is clear that you have no clue about how evolution works. As I have told many a creationist, you cannot debunk a theory that you do not understand.


That is right. Because it can be demonstrated how all of those traits aid in natural selection.



That is simple an argument form incredulity again. Climategate was nothing. It was not a scandal. It was a lot of noise by deniers and that is all.

The Greenhouse effect has been accepted as settled science for over 100 years. Do you seriously think that doubling the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere would have no effect? I used to be skeptical about AGW too, I would debate against it on websites, but like a good skeptic I did the right thing. I studied the problem. The more I studied it the more I found that the AGW crowd has the facts on their side.

Perhaps you should learn how to be a good skeptic. A good skeptic does not go only to the sites that feed your skepticism. You also need to go to websites that support the opposition.

I have no fear of articles in AiG or other creationist sites. I have found that ti is very rare NOT to find an article with obvious lies in them. If creationism was true you think that they would not have to lie.

So go to evolution and anti-evolution sites. Go to global warming and anti-global warming sites. See which ones are honest. If one side lies the other side can usually point it out. Evolutionists don't have to lie since they have the truth on their side.
 
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And LastSeven, Ron Wyatt was a huckster and a fraud. Even AiG disparages his work. From the Wiki article on Ron Wyatt:

 
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Good Christians almost never examine the arguments of the other side.

When I was interesting in Christianity I was exposed to differing schools of thought regarding the 'End Times'. I went to a Christian bookstore and purchased a couple of books, one from each side of a dispute.

The clerk happened to be an instructor at a Christian College. He remarked that no one EVER buys both those books. It simply did not happen, no one every checked out what the other side was saying.

BTW he was commending me. So I have to say almost. He at least would check out both sides and I hope he managed to inspire some of his students to do the same. But he has as much hope as Canute the Great of reversing the tide.
 
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Abiogenesis → foolishness?

No. Abiogenesis is only an unanswered question at this point in time. Parts of the answer have been found, but not the whole answer.

Huge move of the goal posts AV. Moving the goal posts is a tacit admission that you are wrong.
 
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LOL

What's that curvy thing at the end of my equation, scientist?
 
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