New Creationist theory on how life spread out after the flood.

[HitchSlap]

What about them? Didn't I already answer the question? An all powerful God can create a system of galaxies in any state he chooses. Those craters could have appeared naturally and gradually over the course of time, or he could have painted each one individually with the tip of his finger in a matter of seconds.

Are you suggesting your concept of a god is deliberately deceptive?

 

[Lethe]

I am no scientist but have read enough to know that these theories have huge holes in them. If you really cared to know you could spend a few weeks doing your own research.

If I really cared to know, I'd have spent my whole adult life taking science classes, math classes, and statistics classes. Oh wait a minute, that's what I did.

I'm no ignorant layperson, but if I was, I guess I'd make wild assertions about a science that conflicts my thin, brittle, beliefs.

 

[lasthero]

The founder of carbon dating himself even believed it would take no more than 30,000 years for the atmosphere on earth to reach equilibrium. Yet it still has not reached that state, which means the atmosphere can not be more than 30,000 years old.

I'm guessing you're talking about Willard Libby. When did he say this?

The simple lack of "the missing link" should be enough to make you question evolution.

If you're talking about transitional fossils, we've found plenty.

List of transitional fossils - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The odds of all the necessary molecules mutating at the same time to create legs are incredible and statistically impossible even over billions of years.

Care to share your calculations?

The theory of natural selection is supposed to explain "survivability" traits, yet humans have the ability to be artistic and musical and thoughtful for no apparent useful reason.

So? So what? At best, this is an argument from ignorance.

There's just not enough information. And the fact that it's such a hugely political issue makes it incredibly susceptible to tampering, as we've seen with climategate and other UN sanctioned "studies".

There's plenty of information, and the fact that it's politicized has nothing to do with the actual research done by actual scientists documented in actual scientific papers. If you have some problem with the methodology, you can find these papers and pick them apart yourself, if you have the acumen for it. If not, your doubts are unfounded.

 

[HitchSlap]

You sound like a spoiled child who feels his parents rules are unfair.

If you don't believe that God exists then there's no point in trying to play by "his rules". I get that. But if you choose not to "play by his rules" because you don't like the idea of an authoritative God over your life, then you're just being arrogant and foolish.

I reject the god of the Bible's morality, and unless you condone slavery, you do too.

 

[CabVet]

Carbon dating assumes that the carbon that has been entering the earth's atmosphere has been doing so at a consistent rate. This is a huge assumption. It also assumes that the ratio between C12 and C14 has always been a constant. Without knowing the correct ratio, you can not know the correct age. Some scientists have even referred to the state of carbon dating as a crisis due to its unreliability and inaccuracy.

Not true.

The founder of carbon dating himself even believed it would take no more than 30,000 years for the atmosphere on earth to reach equilibrium. Yet it still has not reached that state, which means the atmosphere can not be more than 30,000 years old.

Not even remotely true.

For evolution, the onus is on the evolutionists to prove their theory correct which they have yet to do. The simple lack of "the missing link" should be enough to make you question evolution.

Evolution has been tested and proved to be correct, over and over and over again. There are hundreds, if not thousands of transitional fossils out there for you to examine if you want.

No creature has ever turned into anything new. Even the extremely fast life of the fruit fly has never yielded any evidence of evolution. Though there may be variations in creatures they always remain the same creature. A fish does not turn into a reptile. It's physically impossible.

That only comes to demonstrate how little you know about evolution. If anything similar to what you describe were to happen, that would disprove evolution.

The odds of all the necessary molecules mutating at the same time to create legs are incredible and statistically impossible even over billions of years. It just wouldn't happen.

That's a well known statistical fallacy.

The theory of natural selection is supposed to explain "survivability" traits, yet humans have the ability to be artistic and musical and thoughtful for no apparent useful reason. Everything about the creatures on earth screams intelligent design, but I guess that's too obvious for the "scientists".

Natural selection is not a theory and nothing remotely resembling what you describe. Nothing "screams" intelligent design, not one thing. But I guess that's too complicated for the "theologists".

I don't even want to get started on global warming. There's just not enough information. And the fact that it's such a hugely political issue makes it incredibly susceptible to tampering, as we've seen with climategate and other UN sanctioned "studies". Personally I doubt that man made CO2 could affect the planet in such a drastic way that some people are predicting.

Yeah, please don't get started, you should read about it first.

 

[HitchSlap]

It's a ridiculous notion, obviously. What's even more ridiculous is your insinuation that one believer speaks for all. There are obviously many disagreements within Christianity, just as there are disagreements within every belief system, even science.

You would think an omniscient god as described in the Bible could have been a little clearer in his dictates to his followers. It might have kept the estimated 30,0000 Christian denominations to a minimum.

 

[LastSeven]

This cannot be overstated: you have no clothes. You have no evidence that you would consider in opposition. You have nothing but faith. And faith is a glorification of ignorance.

Faith is nothing like what you claim.

Proverbs 14:14
The faithless will be fully repaid for their ways, and the good rewarded for theirs.

Proverbs 16:6
Through love and faithfulness sin is atoned for; through the fear of the Lord evil is avoided.

Proverbs 28:20
A faithful person will be richly blessed, but one eager to get rich will not go unpunished.

Luke 7:50
Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”

Luke 17:19
Then he said to him, “Rise and go; your faith has made you well.”

Luke 18:42
Jesus said to him, “Receive your sight; your faith has healed you.”

Romans 3:22
This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.

Romans 14:23
everything that does not come from faith is sin.

 

[HitchSlap]

Science has disproved nothing from scripture. In fact, as archaeological discoveries continue around the world, science continues to validate scripture.

Don't be ridiculous! There hasn't been one archaeological discovery to support the Exodus story. It's a completely fictitious story. It never happened.

 

[HitchSlap]

I don't just think I'm right. I know I'm right.

God exists.

How would you know if you were wrong?

 

[Lethe]

What's even more ridiculous is your insinuation that one believer speaks for all. There are obviously many disagreements within Christianity, just as there are disagreements within every belief system, even science.

But here's a newsflash: Science resolves its conflicts with evidence. Meanwhile, Christianity gets more and more factionized by the year.

When there IS something there, we can all talk about it, we can debate about the details we can barely make out, but when we get a better view those disagreements come in to line.

When there ISNT something there, you get bickering and splintering ad nauseum.

 

[CabVet]

Faith is nothing like what you claim.

It's not what you claim either.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Things not seen, yet, creationists keep trying to disprove evolution and "prove" creationism with outlandish "theories". So much for faith.

 

[lasthero]

And by the way, here's the truth on 'Climategate'.

“Climategate”

You're the one who needs to do some research, or at least research that isn't heavily biased.

 

[Lethe]

Faith is nothing like what you claim.

Proverbs 14:14
The faithless will be fully repaid for their ways, and the good rewarded for theirs.

Proverbs 16:6
Through love and faithfulness sin is atoned for; through the fear of the Lord evil is avoided.

Proverbs 28:20
A faithful person will be richly blessed, but one eager to get rich will not go unpunished.

Luke 7:50
Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”

Luke 17:19
Then he said to him, “Rise and go; your faith has made you well.”

Luke 18:42
Jesus said to him, “Receive your sight; your faith has healed you.”

Romans 3:22
This righteousness is given through faith in Jesus Christ to all who believe.

Romans 14:23
everything that does not come from faith is sin.

Yeap. I'll totally take the opinion of a book that states the earth is flat, that there are "waters above" and "waters below." Sounds like a right sound book of definitions there.

 

[AV1611VET]

Don't be ridiculous! There hasn't been one archaeological discovery to support the Exodus story.

I wonder why!?

Psalm 34:16 The face of the LORD is against them that do evil, to cut off the remembrance of them from the earth.

Psalm 109:15 Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.

And while these verses aren't specifically talking about the Exodus, the principle certainly is there.

 

[LastSeven]

Don't be ridiculous! There hasn't been one archaeological discovery to support the Exodus story. It's a completely fictitious story. It never happened.

Really?

Chariot wheels and bones found in the water.

 

[Lethe]

Your reasoning is about as sound as the 9/11 truther over in f71, news.

 

[freezerman2000]

Shoot..I thought this was about volcanos making life spread all over the planet?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Really?

You might want to google Ron Wyatt chariot wheel red sea hoax.

 

[lasthero]

First off, LastSeven, I don't know why you feel that a few bones in the Red Sea proves that Pharaoh's forces all died there. People drown. It happens a lot. It's no big stretch of the imagination to say that, even if the Exodus story were true, it wasn't the first time someone died in that particular body of water, nor was it the last.

Also, about that picture of the wheel - here's an interesting video that deals with it.

Biblical Archaeology VI - YouTube

To sum up, archaeological pictures typically are taken with markers that give you some indication of how big they are. It's more than a little telling that this picture is missing such a marker. There are several other problems with it, and I have to wonder why whomever took this picture didn't take it out of the water for closer inspection.

 

[HitchSlap]

I wonder why!?


And while these verses aren't specifically talking about the Exodus, the principle certainly is there.

No, I don't wonder why, but you should. There is no evidence. The Exodus story is fictitious, and nobody believes this story as factual history with the exception of religious adherents.