"New" CF

[Athene]

so like when we are talking abot UK law, we can set a rule that says that we can't have non UK members debating about our laws for example? and if there is a theological discussion does that mean we can set a rule that says that non-christians can not, well, start debating with us when it isn;t really wanted? or is everything open? I'm kinda confused at how all this works?

You need to remember that non-christians are also regulars on this forum and they will have just as much as say as you will.

Thanks for explaining!

One question (hope this doesn't sound pushy or anything )- how do you determine who 'we in the UK forum' are? Is that just all CF members who are from the UK, whether they've posted on the UK forum or not? Is it everyone who's ever posted on the UK forum? Would it include UK ex-pats? Or would it just be anyone who wants to join? And does this differ from the criteria for belonging to a particular congregational forum? Can you belong to two or more congregational forums at once?

Sorry, that seems to have turned out to be more than one question! None of the questions are intended as criticism, just to make me less confused

I think that will be up to you to decide, rules are going to be thought of by you people in a kind of wikipedia set up, you'll all have input, I'm guessing you'll probably give more weight to the suggestions of people who regularly post on the forum then to somebody who has never posted here before.

I'm not sure it would work like that...that would be even more legalistic than before My thinking is this...say I want to post a thread about the Monster Raving Loony Party...I could state in the OP that I want ONLY those who are eligible to vote in UK elections to participate. Some Outer Mongolian then jumps in & starts stirring things up, and won't quit when I ask him to butt out. I can then PM a mod to say this guy has broken the rules I set for my thread & won't leave when asked, can you whack him for me! So I set the rules for my thread, and I can run it how I like, with support from the mods as required, but not having to work through pages of rules as to what's permissible & what's not. Common sense prevails!

I hope...

Thread specific rules would be a nightmare to moderate and really confusing for people coming in to a forum if they can debate in one thread but not another.

I don't think Erwin has been online yet and I don't have any more info. I'll post in this thread when I find out more.

 

[Naomi4Christ]

so like when we are talking abot UK law, we can set a rule that says that we can't have non UK members debating about our laws for example? and if there is a theological discussion does that mean we can set a rule that says that non-christians can not, well, start debating with us when it isn;t really wanted? or is everything open? I'm kinda confused at how all this works?

We aren't quite sure exactly how it will work, but basically members of each community will have a say in how it is run.

How I see this working for the UK forum is that our lovely British wit and humour can be allowed to flourish here, rather than having to conform to
international standards of political correctness.

We actually have a rule on CF against sarcasm, which has the potential to gag British folks here, because sarcasm, irony, and double entendres are a cherished art-form for us.

We also like to have serious conversations here, which believe it or not, some folks object to - even though we are perfectly harmonious even when we argue.

As for membership of this forum, it's up to the regulars to propose. I imagine automatic members would be those who are British/Irish residents or nationals, and co-opted ones would be those who have a history of posting here. Therefore, someone couldn't come in out of the blue and start throwing their weight around. But we would welcome others, just as we do IRL, and once they'be been around for 30 years, we can adopt them as our own (you can tell I live in the South-East, eh)

We would have to be open-minded, and I think we are up to this. We are not going to test for Britishness or Anglophilia (I don't think).

 

[bunced]

Once they'be been around for 30 years, we can adopt them as our own (you can tell I live in the South-East, eh)

Only 30?? It's at least 45 in Norfolk where I live

 

[sebastian]

You need to remember that non-christians are also regulars on this forum and they will have just as much as say as you will.

That wasn't what I meant, I don't have a problem with non-christians.

 

[meebs]

What are your thoughts on it all?

Im just gonna sit back and watch.

By the way - nice usertitle!

 

[sebastian]

ok that kinda makes sense. guess we'll just wait and see.

 

[meebs]

I'm not sure it would work like that...that would be even more legalistic than before My thinking is this...say I want to post a thread about the Monster Raving Loony Party...I could state in the OP that I want ONLY those who are eligible to vote in UK elections to participate. Some Outer Mongolian then jumps in & starts stirring things up, and won't quit when I ask him to butt out. I can then PM a mod to say this guy has broken the rules I set for my thread & won't leave when asked, can you whack him for me! So I set the rules for my thread, and I can run it how I like, with support from the mods as required, but not having to work through pages of rules as to what's permissible & what's not. Common sense prevails!

I hope...

Hm...

What would apply to me?

Say i want to invite People who have a love for the UK but are from outside to join in the discussion?

 

[Pogue]

We actually have a rule on CF against sarcasm, which has the potential to gag British folks here, because sarcasm, irony, and double entendres are a cherished art-form for us.

Aah, it's so true! Sarcasm is second nature to me, and half the time I don't know if I'm being sarcastic or not. Isn't it true that sarcasm is seen as kind of snarky and nasty in the US? Whereas here, it's more like a gentle kind of teasing.

Only 30?? It's at least 45 in Norfolk where I live

I'm told that in Yorkshire, you don't truly belong unless your family have lived in Yorkshire, and never strayed out of it even ONCE, for at least 5 generations.

 

[bunced]

I'm told that in Yorkshire, you don't truly belong unless your family have lived in Yorkshire, and never strayed out of it even ONCE, for at least 5 generations.

I thought that was Wales Pogue

 

[Naomi4Christ]

I thought that was Wales Pogue

What about if you have a baby or get a dog?

My neighbours first spoke to me when the sprog arrived. And now that I have a puppy, everyone stops for a natter

 

[Pogue]

I thought that was Wales Pogue

Of course not! In the Blessed Land Of My Fathers (as I like to call it) it's at least 30 generations, and that's not taking into account the North/South Wales divide!

 

[meebs]

You know i reckon that if you had a bit of land measuring 1 square mile and 7 people lived on it, you'd have a divide and a loner!

 

[Naomi4Christ]

Of course not! In the Blessed Land Of My Fathers (as I like to call it) it's at least 30 generations, and that's not taking into account the North/South Wales divide!

In Wales, so I've heard, it is "that's the church I go to, that's the church I don't go to", which is very similar to my native Scotland.

Pubs and churches - they are all the same!

 

[meebs]

In Wales, so I've heard, it is "that's the church I go to, that's the church I don't go to", which is very similar to my native Scotland.

Pubs and churches - they are all the same!

I protest!

I've never been allowed to drink in a church

 

[Naomi4Christ]

I protest!

I've never been allowed to drink in a church

You should come to our church!

 

[meebs]

You should come to our church!

Is this typical in Scotland?

 

[fuzzymel]

We actually have a rule on CF against sarcasm, which has the potential to gag British folks here, because sarcasm, irony, and double entendres are a cherished art-form for us.

:o I never knew that. I must be very lucky because I am sarcastic a lot (I am British, I cant help it!).

See the rules are too long and hard at the moment. A lot of rules I only discovered I had broken after I had broken them and got my slap on the wrist. It can be very very frustrating.

Actually I am kinda afraid I will get in trouble for this post. If its bad let me know before telling me off and I will just change it. See I am constantely in fear of getting a slap on the wrist for seemingly innocent things.

 

[uberd00b]

what is it that some people are so hacked off about?

Well if you read the huge discussion thread about it (and I would highly recommend doing so, it's outstanding) one of the objections ran something like this (and i paraphrase);

"But but but...atheists and mormons will be able to post in our forums!"

Yes.

I mean no offence, but I lol'd.

 

[sebastian]

I mean no offence, but I lol'd.

 

[chadders]

Re: The new CF rules I can see both positive and negative. First off, an absolute democracy I don't see as a good thing. Maybe Moderators are fully elected by CF members, Super Moderators 50% CF Members and 50% Staff and Administrators only by Staff. That's my opinion at least.

Allowing a less strict classification of Christianism is a very good idea. People would often not try out to be a moderator because they didn't fit the extensively strict rules governing their participation.

RE: Atheists and other religions in the Christian forum area, so what? So long as people talk about what they're meant to be talking about in each section and everyone respects each others values I honestly don't see an issue. i.e. no starting up a christian vs. atheism debate in the youth ministry section for example.