Wow... thanks and good bye. Just because a person calls themselves a christian doesn't make them one. A husband can be in church, raise his hands and praise the Lord and be cheating on his wife. He is not a christian. His life doesn't bear fruit of a christian.
I agree with you on principle - that person is not a true Christian. But how do you expect a website to be able to know that the "husband" you referring to who goes to church, raises his hands, and praises the Lord, is also cheating on his wife?
If we find out, do you want the website to ban this member? Or remove the Christian faith icon from this member? What should a website be able to do? This "husband"'s church may excommunicate him, but can a website do that? I go back to the first question, how would CF know that this "husband" is a wife-cheater?
I agree with you 100%... you cannot, however, disregard the absolute truth of Scripture. In the Word of God homosexuality is an abomination. To allow a homosexual couple to add wedding rings to their profile is an abomonation to God! Throws the Word right into the face of God.
We are basically allowing wedding rings on members' profiles so that members can show that they are wearing a wedding ring. It is not an endorsement of gay marriages. I personally don't support gay marriages. But if a gay person comes into my home, or my church, and is wearing a wedding ring, even though I don't support gay marriages, do I FORCE this gay person to take off his ring? How do we know if someone is gay in the first place? How do we prove it? Do we send in private investigators?
To say "if you say you're a christian, you're a christian, who are we to judge" slaps the teachings of Jesus right back in His face!!! He was all over the Pharisees for not being who they said they were. And, to limit my ability to judge the fruit of another's life and interact with them accordingly limits my ability to fulfill what God has called me to do... what He has called you to do.... be salt and light.
What you stated here is exactly what I am trying to achieve - the Pharisees were the religious folk stuck to legalism who refused to mingle with non-believers - Jesus was opposite - he went to meet the prostitutes, the tax collectors. Let us not be white-washed tombs, like the Pharisees. I agree with you on this point.
Do I want to keep nonbelievers out... absolutely NOT! Do I want to sit in judgement over their lifestyles... yes... over them... NO. Jesus loved the sinner and hated the sin. We cannot embrace the sin at the same time we embrace the sinner and expect God to bless it.
We agree here.
This isn't about legalism or doctrine. It is about being Christian--Christ-like! The new CF just doesn't fit the bill... Erwin might consider changing the name to Religious Forum... that is what you've ended up with... Religion. Having a form of Godliness but denying the power thereof....
I don't see how the new CF, which still has a completely Christian focus, will end up as Religious forums. The membership will not allow it, and neither would I.