Neo-Darwinian evolution is in trouble INSIDE the scientific community

[bhsmte]

God's flock seems to have been 1/3 all along ... oh well, the Devil gets most of em.

Anyone who disagrees with your theology, is with the devil?

 

[pitabread]

I just said, some churches teach or influence their flock to accept misinterpretations and so maybe move to another church.

How do you know you're not accepting a misinterpretation? What if Biblical 'literalism' isn't the way to go?

 

[Ronald]

Anyone who disagrees with your theology, is with the devil?

No, there you go twisting and misinterpreting things.
Everyone who ends their life without reconciliation with God through Christ is lost and therefore a child of Satan. You are either a child of God or one of The Devil, there is no choice, free will at death (as if you could will yourself elsewhere). "I'm not gonna burn in that Lake of Fire, you cant throw me in there ... I'm gonna go float somewhere else ... reincarnate into another human or animal or empty myself into the universal energy, the all nothingness or create my own paradise ... or as atheists would assume, seice to exist".
Satan has everyone who rejects Jesus.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, there you go twisting and misinterpreting things.
Everyone who ends their life without reconciliation with God through Christ is lost and therefore a child of Satan. You are either a child of God or one of The Devil, there is no choice, free will at death (as if you could will yourself elsewhere). "I'm not gonna burn in that Lake of Fire, you cant throw me in there ... I'm gonna go float somewhere else ... reincarnate into another human or animal or empty myself into the universal energy, the all nothingness or create my own paradise ... or as atheists would assume, seice to exist".
Satan has everyone who rejects Jesus.

So what of the countless people that never heard of Jesus or had a faulty education about him? Are they doomed too?

 

[bhsmte]

No, there you go twisting and misinterpreting things.
Everyone who ends their life without reconciliation with God through Christ is lost and therefore a child of Satan. You are either a child of God or one of The Devil, there is no choice, free will at death (as if you could will yourself elsewhere). "I'm not gonna burn in that Lake of Fire, you cant throw me in there ... I'm gonna go float somewhere else ... reincarnate into another human or animal or empty myself into the universal energy, the all nothingness or create my own paradise ... or as atheists would assume, seice to exist".
Satan has everyone who rejects Jesus.

Opinion. Which you are welcome to.

 

[Heissonear]

On the TOE
I read the post that displayed apparent transitional forms of reptiles to birds, etc. -- HOGWASH! All you have is bones that look similar, a lot of guessing and assumptions. You can not tell me how scales turned into feathers -- LOL, that is absurd. I suppose a lizard climbed up a tree and jumped off a branch to capture a bug and fell to the ground and frayed his scales and over millions of years those scales turned into feathers and then one day, he jumped off that branch and flew away? LOL.
Most of the so-called examples missing links between ape and man are nothing more than hoaxes, 100% ape or 100% man with similar bone structures. We are vastly more superior to apes, no need to prove it, look at what we've done, there is no relative between us. But the movie Planet of the Apes might deceive you, that's pure fiction. We are creative, imaginative and intelligent beings a hundred times over. We make decisions within the realm of morality and virtue, animals don't. Animals cannot create symbols that have meaning and use them to communicate. Surprisingly language was also created, it could not have evolved structurally and uniformly in order that translations between them could be possible or meaningfully understood. Believe it or not, at one time there was one language.
The human brain is said to have 10 billion nerve cells, each having 10 - 100 thousand connecting fibers which come to 1 quadrillion connections. Imagine a forest twice the size of Alaska containing 10,000 trees per square mile with each tree having 100,000 leaves. Let's say they are all connected. That's how many connections their are in your brain - well ... maybe not the atheist. This would represent more than 100 times the connections in the combined communication systems on the planet ... and this evolved? ... all manufactured by nature choosing beneficial mutations over time?
Thoughts, emotions, ideas, talent, love, hope and faith are not chemicals in the brain. Happiness is a state of being, not a chemical. If they were chemicals, we would have found them and marketed them so the rest of mankind could all be genius, talented, loving and happy people. Morals and values are not chemicals either. Thoughts and emotions are transmitted by chemicals, they are not chemicals. All these are not physical, they do not have mass and therefore could not have come through physical processes from other things. Physical laws cannot provide the information in a book by randomly combining letters and punctuation. You can see in any form of communication that the information given or received is not physical. Written or spoken words carry information. You can't open up a brain and see thoughts and information or say, "looky here, we have musical talent or genius. The initial spark of a thought or idea is not physical. Where do they come from? And the curious question evolutionists should have is, "Where does all the information come from"? The information in the DNA molecule is mind boggling, it is a language, a digital, error correcting code that holds information, consists of a 4-letter alphabet that uses 3 in a way to detect errors within a 3 billion rung double helix molecule. It can detect a 1 % error in these pairs of nucleotides. It exploits the most advanced language design codes we know of: error-detecting and correcting and adaptive (syntax modifying). In the cell there is equipment (machines) designed to copy this information and use it for manufacturing DNA, RNA and proteins. Information has to leave the nucleus of one cell by photocopying and duplicating it in the next cell. Btw, DNA is the medium that carries information, not the information itself.
Here's an interesting correlation: Weigh a CD, then store a million bits of information on it and weigh it again. No matter how much information you put on it, it will weigh the same. The information has no mass. Likewise, the information in the DNA code could not have been produced by physical laws or chance because it has not mass. Again, where did that information come from?
Something much more simple: The bacterial cell is self-adaptive, self-repairing and self-reproducing. It has a central memory bank that coordinates a vast number of materials and information. It contains assembly plants that process and fabricate materials like amino acids and proteins. The automated functions include artificial languages and decoding systems that decipher DNA codes of itself and other organisms. These intricate components contain error fail-safe proof reading devices for quality control. They can change their function as the need requires. If we compare the design technology of this bacterial cell to anything man-made, it is unequaled in complexity. But Darwin didn't know this, if he did, he would have never formulated his theory. If he knew all they were going to find in the fossil record was hopeful similarities in bones, he would have gone to the Galapagos Islands only to enjoy God's creation.
The so-called Cambrian explosion reveals all basic animal groups appearing suddenly without evidence of ancestors.
*Heidelberg Man was built from a jaw bone that was conceded by many to be human.
*Nebraska Man was built up from one tooth later revealed to be from an extinct pig.
*Piltdown Man's jawbone turned out to belong to a modern ape.
*Peking Man's evidence has disappeared.
*Neanderthal Man was proven to be a skeleton of an old man who suffered from Arthritis.
*New Guinea Man dates way back to 1970.
*CroMagnon Man is quite equal in physique and brain capacity to modern man.
As you can see, the history of the TOE is filled with fabrications and flaws.

Robert Fundi, Professor of Paleontology: "All biological groups from bacteria to man appear abruptly in the fossil record without any links connecting them with each other. Evidence of evolution is highly questionable. Evolution of man from Australopithecine Apes is totally without foundation and should be rejected."
Natural selection cannot be demonstrated, it's assumed.
A testable mechanism for changing one kind of creature into something entirely different and building complex organs that are intricately designed within interdependent systems that are self-reproducing does not exist in the TOE.

But hey, you atheists hold onto your precious theory and see where that gets you.

Your post well states the foundational evidence of Evolution does not exist.

There are no sequences of fossils, not even one series in the strata, which shows on creature developing into a higher life form of selective physical attribute.

Evolutionists do not like hearing there is zero evidence in the fossil record that proves Evolution occurred.

There are billions of fossils discovered. There is zero transition series fossils to display and prove Evolution.

 

[Heissonear]

And we know from experience that eyewitness accounts are among the lowest forms of evidence.

500 "eyewitnesses" can point at the same person in accusation of murder.
But a single DNA sample proving otherwise will win the argument.

Google the innocense project. It's a collection of court cases of plenty of people who've been set free after years in prison thanks to new DNA evidence. As good as ALL of them were initially convicted based on testimony.

In 2nd grade, you play the telephone game. You tell a story to a person. That person tells the next person, etc. By the time you get to person 10, the whole story changed.




That is simply completely and utterly false.
I'll prove it.

Someone walked here:
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There was a fire here:
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Events of the past, leave evidence that can be observed in the present.




Which is an unreasonable request.
Kind of like me asking you to show me a photo of your face of EVERY SECOND of your life, in order to prove to me that you are in fact aging.

It's ridiculously unreasonable. And unecessary. All you require to demonstrate common ancestry, is extant DNA samples.

You can remove every fossil from the face of the earth and completely whipe earth's history and evolution theory would be as solid as ever based on the genetic evidence alone.



This, by itself, shows how ignorant you are on the subject. Our classification of organisms is actually just a snapshot of the current "state" of life, which is in constant transition generation after generation.

If you would line up all your forefathers in a long line and work your way back 1 generation at the time, at no point would you be able to draw a line between 2 individuals where one is of species Y and the other of species X.

Every newborn that ever existed was of the same species as its direct parents. Evolution is a gradual process.




Why?

If your post is correct, then there would be numerous series of fossils in the strata that shows the morphological transition of one form of creature to another.

Yet there are zero transition fossils - zero evidence showing evolution in morphological steps.

The foundation of Evolution is faith. Evolutionists do not like hearing or facing their foundation they stand on.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

You'll be around to see a temporal Dark Age, The Great Tribulation

I doubt it.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Your post well states the foundational evidence of Evolution does not exist.

There are no sequences of fossils, not even one series in the strata, which shows on creature developing into a higher life form of selective physical attribute.

Evolutionists do not like hearing there is zero evidence in the fossil record that proves Evolution occurred.

There are billions of fossils discovered. There is zero transition series fossils to display and prove Evolution.

Sorry but you simply do not know what a transitional fossil is. A real stratigrapher would know this

 

[pitabread]

Yet there are zero transition fossils - zero evidence showing evolution in morphological steps.

The foundation of Evolution is faith. Evolutionists do not like hearing or facing their foundation they stand on.

It amazes me how after decades in these C/E debates, that creationists still resort to the same, empty soundbites which have zero bearing in reality.

 

[Jimmy D]

There are no sequences of fossils, not even one series in the strata, which shows on creature developing into a higher life form of selective physical attribute.

Evolutionists do not like hearing there is zero evidence in the fossil record that proves Evolution occurred.

There are billions of fossils discovered. There is zero transition series fossils to display and prove Evolution.

Paleontologists disagree.

 

[HighCherub]

Meh

I believe evolution is an illusion mankind has sought out to explain the origins of life without the dictation of God's will.

Evolutionists say we're the one's with closed minds- maybe it's simply them who are close minded

 

[Subduction Zone]

Meh

I believe evolution is an illusion mankind has sought out to explain the origins of life without the dictation of God's will.

Evolutionists say we're the one's with closed minds- maybe it's simply them who are close minded

You could always try to learn. To deny evolution one has to deny reality.

 

[HighCherub]

You could always try to learn. To deny evolution one has to deny reality.

Not really, that's just something evolutionists tell themselves to reinforce their notions.

Every fossil ever found couldn't fill a Mack truck- your scientists know this, but they try to make you feel like you could build a city with the bones.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not really, that's just something evolutionists tell themselves to reinforce their notions.

Every fossil ever found couldn't fill a Mack truck- your scientists know this, but they try to make you feel like you could build a city with the bones.

No, really. And no, we have found literally mountains of fossils. Where do you get such nonsense from? You have been listening to either ignorant fools or liars. There are rock formations that are totally made up of fossils.

When one has no education, one cannot make a winning argument. Genesis is myth. There is no doubt about that.

 

[HighCherub]

No, really. And no, we have found literally mountains of fossils.

You haven't
At least none dating back before yesterday.

Where do you get such nonsense from?

Reality- a place many evolutionists have ironically left

 

[Subduction Zone]

You haven't

I personally have not collected mountains of fossils, that does not mean that others have not. Your ignorance is not a weapon.

Reality- a place many evolutionists have ironically left

And now you have broken the Ninth Commandment by bearing false witness against your neighbor. The Ninth Commandment is more than an order not to lie. It is also an order not to make claims against others that you cannot support. And you just made that sort of claim.

You are the one that is misusing the Bible by thinking that it has to be interpreted literally.

 

[Jimmy D]

You haven't
At least none dating back from before yesterday.

“United States of Fossiliferousness,” a map of all the places in the country where fossils have been discovered. (It exists in several versions.) Brighter dots or larger circles show places that are richer in fossils, maxing out at 927 occurrences per site.

This Map Shows Everywhere Fossils Were Found in America

 

[Jimmy D]

Not really, that's just something evolutionists tell themselves to reinforce their notions.

Every fossil ever found couldn't fill a Mack truck- your scientists know this, but they try to make you feel like you could build a city with the bones.

Your ignorance could be corrected with education. I wonder if you're going to continue with this line of argument now you've been corrected? That's when you cross the line into breaking the 9th commandment.

 

[HighCherub]

“United States of Fossiliferousness,” a map of all the places in the country where fossils have been discovered. (It exists in several versions.) Brighter dots or larger circles show places that are richer in fossils, maxing out at 927 occurrences per site.

This Map Shows Everywhere Fossils Were Found in America

Which also includes modern fossils- no doubt the majority- and the rest are otherwise very incomplete and tiny bones.

That's just reality- sorry to burst your evolution bubble.
It's appealing to anti-theists.