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everyone here is being very kind and supportive....

here's my take: you married a passive-aggressive man-child. He is immature and you are enabling it.

I don't have the time to roll back and copy/paste the sentences you wrote about making everything nice for him. My eyes rolled back on that one. To the 1950's wifey in the sheer apron.; sheesh.

There is no point in trying to change his behavior. It won't change. What you need to decide is whether you want to put up with it.

I went thru some years of unhappiness, telling myself " I have learned to be content in all things." I accepted. I tried. He didn't change, and after a few years, I lost respect for him.

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Well, I am feeling a bit more human today. That flu had me knocked down pretty badly.

No, I didn't get help while so sick, but I've contacted several people so far.

Consequences are hard to figure out. I see what you are saying, but the only thing I can figure out is to withhold sex/cooking dinner/whatever - and that's a game I don't want to begin playing. Or I could throw out his tools, but totally disrespectful, and I would never do it. He wouldn't be "punished" by me leaving the room, or anything else I can think of. Maybe as my head clears and I get more over this flu something will come to me, and I'm overlooking it.

As far as me spending time doing things he wants - to be honest, I guess I don't. He likes to work with his tools, read the Bible. Those are pretty much alone things. Maybe I can get a workshop project we can do together. He does like to watch football, and I usually only watch the Super Bowl or when the Saints are playing. I haven't watched with him this year. I guess I could make some snacks and watch with him. He likes to go to garage sales, but that would bring in more useless stuff (he's also kind of a minimalist, or wants to be, and our new house is much smaller than our old one) and cost money, so I don't think it's a good solution. Other than hunting/shooting I don't know what else he likes. I can look for local gun ranges. Thanks for the suggestion, Autumnleaf - I would not have thought of even this much without your input.

And Anessa, no offense intended, but I just hope you are wrong. If need be, yes, I COULD do what's necessary to be independent and happy enough in this situation. But right now I refuse to throw in the towel. Prayer has worked many miracles in my life, and while I want to take action as well, I don't think ANYTHING is impossible.

Thanks so much everyone.
 
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I just read through everything here & I'm more concerned about your daughter than anything. (And I agree with Anessa too). Your daughter isn't going to be around much longer. You said she got accepted into a good college, right? Your husband doesn't have kids so he has no idea what it's like. Try to remind him she won't be there much longer

Please don't get a job yet or do anything to shortchange her. The poor girl has had a very rough life. She didn't know where you were all these years & she's gone from one house where she wasn't welcome into another. Just remind your husband she'll only be around for the rest of the school year & to please have some compassion in his heart for Gods sake. This year will go quickly & then she'll be gone. Your time with her will be up. You have decades yet with your husband.
 
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I do agree that my daughter is very high among my concerns. I'd like to find a job that I can work only while she's in school. It's just jobs are hard to find, and that's probably when EVERYone wants to work. She's amazingly resilient, I will say that. She actually speaks well of her experiences because she likes who she is, and figures she has learned from them. She has a better attitude about it than I am able to. I still have to keep a rein on my emotions to prevent bitterness.

Speaking of my daughter, she was told many lies about me while her dad had her away. When I finally got to speak to her again, it was a VERY strained situation. Truthfully, I wasn't sure we'd be able to rebuild a relationship. But we have. Honesty with each other has been key. Still, I am balancing all these household relationships along with the fact that the current situation is probably eroding her respect for me for "allowing" it to happen.

One thing I do want to correct. I said earlier that I disagreed with Anessa because I thought anyone could change. That implies agreement otherwise. I need to stand up and say that I do not agree with her assessment of my husband. I'm not being critical of those who see him so, because you are necessarily only seeing part of the situation. There is always so much more to tell. But I will not agree with him being called an immature passive-aggressive man child. :(

He works and supports the family. His father passed away in his early adulthood, leaving a large family. He supported his mother and siblings until we married, then passed the responsibility to his younger brother. He works hard around the house to repair things and do whatever needs doing. He usually cleans up after himself. He does his own laundry (which honestly I find weird, but he's set in his ways). He is meticulous in making sure every little detail gets taken care of - bills paid, garbage taken out, etc. He sacrificed and moved the family for the sake of myself and my daughter when it wasn't what he wanted.

I think he honestly doesn't have the tools / skills to know what to do. So as I said, when he gets frustrated, he tries this and that. And I obviously don't really have the skills either, or I wouldn't need to be told some of the things you all have been kind and generous enough to point out to me.

Yes, there are some other issues as well, such as him being jealous of my daughter. There is a bit more to that that I don't want to go into, but the fault does not lie with either of them (or me).

Also, there may be cultural issues. His family escaped to this country (US) when he was a small child, but he grew up pretty much isolated with those of his own culture.

Keep sharing more and more here, but I realized it's not fair to him to make it seem as if I agree with the recent assessments of him.

I do thank you all for your input. As I said, I've contacted a number of people for help, just have not heard back from anyone able to help yet.
 
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Also, there may be cultural issues. His family escaped to this country (US) when he was a small child, but he grew up pretty much isolated with those of his own culture.
If you don't mind me asking what country were they from originally? Sometimes their culture can play a role in how they are in marriage.
 
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Since the convo stopped after I answered this question, I am just going to edit it to make an update. I don't want to bump the whole thing to the top. (I hope editing won't do that.)

I have sought help and am engaging (or attempting to engage) three sources.

A marriage coach friend of mine from online has given me the most practical suggestions. As for the others, I am sad to report that as it turns out, December is not the time of year to need help. Really it saddens me to think people are so caught up in their Christmas plans that help is not to be had until after the new year. Things were so bad that I wasn't willing to let them go for 5 weeks, and destroy my own Christmas in the process.

Anyway, he is giving me cash for spending money. As for needing the card for other things - well, I have established my own card and another bank account. The consequence of this is that he is probably going to get a printout of his Christmas gift since credit card processing is taking twice as long due to the holidays and it STILL isn't here. My husband knows all this. As to his seeming honest fear that I can't be trusted with our savings account, I have put off dealing with that until we can get professional help. If there does happen to be an emergency (God forbid) I will deal with it as best I can, call on him to do whatever is his reasonable help in the situation, and the consequences that result, will result.

I knew in a way that my relating to him very strongly affects his response. I think too much so. But that's where we are, and this is something else I can't work on until I have help. So, because as it turns out, what REALLY burned me is that I was unable to stop and buy a drink or cough drops, and now I have disposable cash, I'm not really upset with him. So my contribution to the emotional atmosphere has changed. We also got some very good fellowship in church and that has helped. We're back to being good to each other, and he's nice to my daughter, teasing her, wanting to buy toys for the cats for Christmas, and so on.

As a side benefit to me, he now runs errands and goes shopping with me, which was a rarity before, but I enjoy it. He is also starting to see what things really cost and I suspect may be re-thinking his idea that I was "burning" all that money. It really does go for mortgage, gas, groceries, and so on. And the amount he gives me in cash is more than I took for spending money each week anyway.

A budget on paper is in our near future. I'm also going to seriously invest more time in getting a daytime job when my daughter is in school, but I'm going to wait until after her Christmas break so I can spend that time with her first.

Thanks for the help here and letting me talk through it, and get a real handle on the situation. My home is (and has been now for almost a week) very happy once again. And I have a direction to go to continue to hopefully improve things.
 
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