Hello 4jacks.
First of all I would suggest you find other brethren and meet in your homes around Christ and wait on him. this is the apostolic patterns. You might want to read a few of my post on thse things.
Secondly you said,
"You can not loose your Salvation'
My response, yes you can , as I see from scripture,
In the book of Galatians we read:
"I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel" (Galatians 1:6)
Some of the Galatian believers had been removed from God the Father and from the grace of Christ and began to believe another gospel. Paul warned them that if
any man taught another gospel they were to be considered "accursed" (Galatians 1:8). And so, if some believed another gospel they might eventually teach it and be accursed themselves. For someone to be called accursed does not sound like they are a saved person. And to be removed from God is not to be with him. This can happen by going back into dead works of the law and circumcision as we see in Galatians 3:2 4:21, 5:4.
These warnings went out to those who had once received the Spirit as we read:
"O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whos eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you? This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?" (Galatians 3:1,2)
Those he speaks to were bewitched, and not obeying the truth (Galatians 2:14). Jesus told men that the truth would make them free, and he is the truth. But some were going against the truth and into bondage. Therefore they were not free in Christ, even though they had once began in the Spirit. Paul wrote:
"Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh? Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain." (Galatians 3:3,4)
So, they started in the Christian walk, but Paul questioned if all they had suffered was in vain or to no purpose. This shows that some of them were in a dangerous state. We see this later in Galatians when Paul said:
"Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Behold I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace...Ye did run well; who did hinder you that ye should not obey the truth." (Galatians 5:1-4,7)
These passages are among some of the clearest warnings in scripture showing that men can fall from grace. The liberty and freedom that they were exhorted to continue in was only when they were standing fast, "in Christ", which is salvation; to be outside of Christ is to be in bondage and lost, as they were warned of in this passage.
Paul says to them, "Christ shall profit you nothing". We know that the profit that Christ brings to us is salvation and victory over sin. So, for Christ to profit us nothing is to be cut off of Him and not to be in the salvation he gives. We see this in John 15:5 where Jesus says "without me ye can do nothing", referring to those who did not continue to abide in him, for if they didnt they would be cast into the fire (John 15:1-6) and Christ would profit them nothing.
The danger of losing Christ is further stressed by the words "Christ is become of no effect unto you" (Galatians 5:4). The expression "of no effect" is the key phrase here, for in the scriptures we read that Christ, "effectually worketh also in you that believe" (1Thessalonians 2:13). And in Pauls letter to the Ephesians we hear of Christs headship among believers and his "effectual working in the measure of every part" (Ephesians 4:16). So if Christ had no effect unto them they would be lost.
Furthermore, if they did not believe in Christ work and sought to be "justified by the law", then he would not be effectually working in them, and be of "no effect" unto them, and they could not say they were in him or free.
Paul sums up those in such a position and says, "ye are fallen from grace". This grace spoken of here must be the grace of salvation in the gospel as we saw earlier in Galatians 1:6, where Paul said they went away from the "grace of Christ". For even the gospel of salvation
is called the gospel of the grace of God (Acts 20:24).
How can a person fall from grace if they were never in it? They can't, because they would have to be saved first and in the grace, to be able to fall out of it.
We know that we are saved by grace through faith (Ephesians 2:8). Therefore, if a person falls from grace, they fall from salvation. It seems very simple to understand for the unbiased reader.
At one time Paul exhorted and persuaded believers to "continue in the grace of God" (Acts 13:43). Why would he have to persuade them to continue in the grace of God if they would always be in the grace and not fall out of it? Obviously then, they could fall away from the grace of salvation.
They were once running well in the faith but then they got into the works of the law. Paul said that those who did so, were not obeying the truth (Galatians. 5:7). To not obey the truth of the gospel is very dangerous. Paul warned in 2 Thessalonians 1:8 that the Lord Jesus would come "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ". And Paul said that those who had no love of the truth, God gave over to a reprobate mind in Romans 1:28.
We read another interesting verse to the Galatians where Paul says:
"My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you.
I desire to be present with you now, and to change my voice; for I stand in doubt of you" (Galatians 4:19,20).
The word "again" here is "palin" in greek and means "to restore once more, anew". This shows that they were once saved and then fell from grace (Galatians 5:4), and had to have Christ formed in them again, which is salvation. The expression "birth again" is the connection to the saving part of the verse.
Even forgiveness is like this, for if a person sins seven times seventy a day and repents, they can be forgiven; showing that they can fall and come back.
Furthermore, Paul said that he stood in doubt of them, and wondered if they had believed in vain (Galatians 4:20, Galatians 3:4). Does this sound like he could have assured such people of life and hope in that state? I dont think so.
The story of the prodical son is similar to this. He was alive when he was in the fathers house, but dead and lost when he left. Then he was alive again when he came back and found. So if someone goes out of God's house they are dead and lost.
Also we read of Judas in Matthew 10 who was one of Jesus disciples and was given power to cast out devils etc and whom Jesus called one of his sheep sent to the lost sheep . If Judas was once a sheep sent to the wolves, or lost sheep, then he was once saved. read matthew 10 again and see for yourself.
Hope to talk later.
