Natural Grace

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"There are but two principles of moral life in the universe, one which makes ourselves, or the most limited private good, the center; the other which makes God, who may be called the universal good, the center" --Madame Guyon

How do you know that, even though you think you're following the latter, you are not in reality just deluded by the former?

Everything you know and everything you experience must be processed through the "limited and private" of your mind. So how can you ever truly claim to have met or accessed God, the "unlimited and universal"?

And if two people have claimed to have accessed this unlimited and universal and made it the center of their lives but they disagree on their methodology, value systems and doctrinal statements then we are left with a three options:

1) One is right
2) Neither is right
3) Both are right in their private and limited experiences and both have accessed the unlimited and universal but in different ways yet both have found "truth" in its most basic form which goes beyond words or doctrine or rules or methodology.

And could you call option 3 "natural grace"?

 

[razeontherock]

"There are but two principles of moral life in the universe, one which makes ourselves, or the most limited private good, the center; the other which makes God, who may be called the universal good, the center" --Madame Guyon

How do you know that, even though you think you're following the latter, you are not in reality just deluded by the former?

False dichotomy. No, I didn't just give you the brush; I hope you can see what it is I just gave you to ponder ...

 

[solarwave]

I'm not sure what the question your asking really is, but I like answer 3

 

[drich0150]

I don't know that there is such a thing as natural grace. I've hear of "Natural Ice" but as far as i know that is only good to boil crabs, and crawdads in.. Probably not the same thing

 

[ephraimanesti]

Everything you know and everything you experience must be processed through the "limited and private" of your mind. So how can you ever truly claim to have met or accessed God, the "unlimited and universal"?

MY BROTHER,

The primary reason our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus the Christ incarnated, lived, died sacrificially, resurrected, and ascended to the Father's right hand is so the heart of man could once again become the Temple of the indwelling Holy Spirit and, through Him, the dwelling place of the Godhead as a whole.

Through the presence and power of the indwelling Trinity, the previously warped and twisted powers of the mind are brought to heel by being brought once again under the control of the Godhead, providing a direct and indwelling access to God--face to FACE as it were. Thus, the "unlimited and universal" indwells each believer, much as He in-dwelt the womb of the Virgin 2000 years or so ago.

ABBA'S FOOL,
ephraim