Natural disasters really are increasing

[jlujan69]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20051017/sc_space/scientistsnaturaldisastersbecomingmorecommon

 

[jlujan69]

Say, that's really interesting.

 

[jlujan69]

Yep. So, do you think them futurists are right after all, or are the preterists more on target?

 

[PaladinValer]

Try rereading that article. It doesn't say at all what you are thinking.

To give a quote (opening paragraph):

"Earth might seem like a more active and dangerous place than ever, given the constant media reports of multiple natural disasters recently. But a broader view reveals that it's not Mother Nature who's changed, but we humans."

 

[TwinCrier]

This is the beginning of birth pangs, but the end is not here yet. I recently had a wakeup call on this. I had been saying how glad I am not to live on the coast where they have all these hurricanes and such. No bombings or earthquakes here. Then we just had that major tornado in Southern Indiana. I had a false sense of security that made me complaciant. So glad to be out of that and seeing a bit more clearly now.

But as the saying goes.... you ain't seen nuthin yet! The events of revelation are far more catastrophic than anything we've seen thus far.

 

[Yusuf Evans]

I don't think that natural disaster are more frequent, but I do beleive they are getting more and more powerful. Though we can say that this is the beginning of the end, part of the nearing of the end spoken by Jesus in Matthew 24, I think mankind is also at fault, especially we Christians, for not taking better care of what we were given to look over by the Lord. These disasters are the effect that we caused to happen by our inaction to protect the earth.

 

[Smiggy]

yes.. we are living in the end times and we should not be surprised.

We need to trust that our Father can keep us from evil and evil from us.

The real deal is when the christian are raptured. Then the full wrath will occur.
it is nothing yet because believers are here. That's why we are the salt of the earth. We help preserved it by our sheer presence.

 

[Lake]

Hmmmm.That's interesting.

 

[ceedaisy]

This is the beginning of birth pangs, but the end is not here yet. I recently had a wakeup call on this. I had been saying how glad I am not to live on the coast where they have all these hurricanes and such. No bombings or earthquakes here. Then we just had that major tornado in Southern Indiana. I had a false sense of security that made me complaciant. So glad to be out of that and seeing a bit more clearly now.

But as the saying goes.... you ain't seen nuthin yet! The events of revelation are far more catastrophic than anything we've seen thus far.

Hey, I lived in Evansville all my life til five years ago. Now I live outside of Henderson, KY. My Aunt was in the tornado's path. But she was Blessed and didn't lose anything. I have it all posted in my blog. So great to see a fellow Hoosier!! I'm always scared of tornados and was barely missed spring of 2004, when one went across the road from here. Yes, these twisters are very humbling!

 

[ceedaisy]

The real deal is when the christian are raptured. Then the full wrath will occur.
it is nothing yet because believers are here. That's why we are the salt of the earth. We help preserved it by our sheer presence.

I like how you said that! I can now understand that phrase much more clearly now!!

 

[spinningwheelgirl]

It might seem like there are more disaster, but are there really? The one thing that I do know for sure ever since Jesus left earth (actually since the fall) there have always been natural desasters. There is no point in getting worked up over them. Yes, we do need to be compasionate to people that have suffered, but we don't need to worry. As well Jesus said that they were the beginning of birth pangs, so this does not mean that he is coming back right away. We just need to be ready for him when he does come.

 

[KinderBee]

I love how people like to exaggerate and say the world is ending when evidence shows there has always been years when natural diasters were worse then others.

 

[applepowerpc]

Well the world IS ending, natural disasters or not.

 

[spinningwheelgirl]

Well the world IS ending, natural disasters or not.

Well, yes the world is going to end one day. It might end today or it might end in a million years from now. There is no way we can predict when it is going to happen. Jesus said that only the father knows when he is going to come back. That is when the world is going to end- at least how we know it. (There is debate whether the New Jerusalm is going to be on this earth or not.) We need to be prepared for the second coming and we need to tell people about Christ. But, there is no reason to get worked up about it and no one has the ability to predict when the end is going to come.

 

[wiggsfly]

The disasters are the same, CNN is not. In generations past we may havev never heard of a the Indonesian tsunami or a hurricane on the gulf coast. Now, thanks to companies like CNN we not only hear of them but we often watch them live no matter where in the world they occur. Like our faith in Christ just because we couldn't see these disasters in the past doesn't mean they weren't there.

As for the end of the world, we know no more about that then we know about who will win the superbowl in 2010. Jesus himself did not know during his time on Earth and he told us to be prepared as it could be at any time. Christians, however, always seem to believe that every generation will be the last. In the year 1000 there was mass panic, as their was in the time of the romans, and to a lesser extent today. From a scientific point of view the world will end in a fefw million years when the sun expands and engulfs us (sounds a lot like fire reigning from the sky, eh?). If we use science as a guide to try to explain some of the magic of God we can see that things will end like Revelation said, but not for some time...

 

[chris414]

From http://www.lamblion.com/articles/other/social/SI-26.phphttp://www.lamblion.com/articles/other/social/SI-26.phphttp://www.lamblion.com/articles/other/social/SI-26.php

The Madrid Conference — This conference, which we forced on Israel, marked the beginning of the “land for peace” process. The opening of the conference on October 30, 1991, coincided with the formation of “the Perfect Storm.” This was the record breaking storm along our Atlantic seacoast which produced 100 foot high waves and heavily damaged President Bush’s home at Kennebunkport, Maine. The headlines of USA Today on November 1, 1991, had the stories of the storm and the Madrid Conference side by side.

Round Six of the Bilateral Peace Talks — In June of 1992 Yitzhak Rabin was elected the new Prime Minister of Israel. We immediately insisted that he come to Washington, D.C. and meet with Yasser Arafat. The day that meeting began, August 24, 1992, Hurricane Andrew slammed into Florida with winds of 177 miles per hour. The damage done amounted to over $30 billion — the most costly hurricane in U.S. History to that point in time.

Arafat at the United Nations — In September of 1998 Yasser Arafat was invited to speak to a special session of the United Nations that was held in New York. President Clinton arranged a meeting with him to put pressure on Israel. As the meeting took place, Hurricane Georges smashed into the Gulf Coast causing over $6 billion in damage.

Arafat and a Palestinian State — With our encouragement, Arafat announced that he was going to proclaim a Palestinian state on May 4, 1999. Even though President Clinton later persuaded Arafat to postpone the declaration to at least December, on the very day the proclamation was to have been made (May 3rd in the U.S.; May 4th in Israel), the most powerful tornado in U.S. history tore through Oklahoma City with wind speeds of 316 miles per hour, destroying over 2,000 homes.

The Camp David Summit — From July 11 through July 24 in the summer of 2000, President Clinton hosted a summit conference between Israel and the Palestinian Authority. Clinton pressured Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak to surrender the heartland of Israel. During these precise dates, a major heat wave struck the South Central U.S. and fires broke out in our Western states. At one point, there were over 50 active fires that consumed over 500,000 acres before the end of the month.

White House Ramadan Celebration — On Thursday evening, November 7, 2002, President Bush hosted a dinner at the White House to honor the Muslim religious holiday called Ramadan. In his speech that evening, the President said:

. . . this season commemorates the revelation of God’s word in the holy Koran to the prophet Muhammad. Today this word inspires faithful Muslims to lead lives of honesty and integrity and compassion . . .




We see in Islam a religion that traces its origins back to God’s call on Abraham . . .




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Two days later a total of 88 tornados hit Arkansas, Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, Ohio, and Pennsylvania..




The Middle East Peace Plan — On April 30, 2003, U.S. Ambassador Daniel Kurtzer presented the “Road Map” peace plan to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon. It was a plan formulated by an ungodly coalition called “the Quartet.” This group was made up of Russia, the European Union, the United Nations, and the United States. It called for Israel to surrender Gaza and its heartland of Judea and Samaria to the Palestinians. On May 3rd Secretary of State Colin Powell departed for the Middle East for talks to implement the plan. On May 4th Secretary Powell met with terrorist leader Hafez Assad of Syria and made a commitment to him to include the surrender of the Golan Heights in the peace plan. That day a swarm of tornados began tearing apart the Central United States. Over the next 7 days, there was a total of 412 tornados — the largest cluster ever observed by NOAA since it began its record keeping in 1950. The previous record had been 177 in 1999.

In summary, between October 1991 and November 2004, the United States experienced:

• 9 of the 10 largest insurance events in U.S. history.
• 9 of the 10 greatest natural disasters as ranked by FEMA relief costs.
• 5 of the costliest hurricanes in U.S. history
• 3 of the 4 largest tornado swarms in U.S. history.

All of which were linked to our attempts to pressure Israel into either dividing up its land or surrendering part of its capital city of Jerusalem.

The world would laugh and call these coincidences, but I don’t believe in coincidence. I believe only in God-incidences. God is sovereign. He is in control.

The Gaza Withdrawal

The most recent chaotic event in Israel was the forced withdraw¬al of all Jews from Gaza. It began on August 7th and continued through the 22nd, as nearly 9,000 Israelis were uprooted from their land and homes. Many had been in the area for as long as 35 years.

It was a heart-wrenching event to watch women and children manhandled, synagogues violated, torah scrolls desecrated, houses bulldozed, graves dug up, and farms destroyed. Entire Jewish communities were forcibly removed from land which God has given to the Jewish people as an everlasting possession (Psalm 105:8-11).

The economic impact on the Israeli economy will be overwhelming. The farms in Gaza represented 70% of Israel’s organic produce, 60% of the nation’s exported herbs, 15% of its total agricultural exports, 60% of its exported cherry tomato crop, and $120 million of its flower exports.

And while this travesty was taking place, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice began applying more pressure with the following statement: “Everyone empathizes with what the Israelis are facing . . . but it cannot be Gaza only.”

The Supernatural Response

The withdrawal ended on August 22nd, and on the very next day, the government of Bermuda announced that a tropical depression had formed off its coast. Dubbed “Katrina,” the storm quickly developed into the most powerful hurricane in modern history. It slammed into New Orleans and the Mississippi coast four days later on the 27th. The hurricane disrupted 25% of our crude oil production and destroyed our nation’s largest port (the 5th largest in the world in terms of tonnage).

I think it is interesting to note that the hurricane hit just three days before New Orleans — which often refers to itself proudly as “Sin City USA” — was scheduled to host an ungodly event that had come to be called “The Gay Mardi Gras.” The theme this year was to be “Jazz and Jezebels.” Last year the event drew 125,000 revelers who proudly flaunted their perversion publicly in a parade that featured the bizarre. Incredibly, this event is sponsored by a group that has named itself “Southern Decadence.”

New Orleans is known for its occult practices, particularly voodoo. The city is also infamous for its high murder rate and its rampant political corruption.

Nonetheless, I do not believe the storm was meant primarily as a judgment upon the city of New Orleans. Rather, I see it as a judgment on our entire nation for our mistreatment of Israel. The consequences of the storm were national in scope. It resulted in higher fuel prices which will lead to higher prices for all goods. It has disrupted indefinitely the flow of goods into and out of our country. It will result in either higher taxes or a significant increase in our national debt. It shamed us before the world as we mishandled the aftermath. And it has deeply scarred the Bush Administration.

Sory its quite long. what do you think about this stuff?

 

[wiggsfly]

I believe we're really reading way too far into Katrina and some of these disasters. God's punishment for our sins will be realized, but not necessarily in this life. If he imposed his will on us in the form of disasters during this life it would be a severe encroachment on the free will that he has bestowed upon us all.

We can all choose where we'll be after this world. We can be with God, or away from God. The choice is completely up to us.

 

[nasigoreng]

World will not end yet but petrol are...

 

[nasigoreng]

Do you think the Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment??

 

[ceedaisy]

As far as Chris' post goes; I do link these thing to Israel. I know of a Jewish scholar, but is catholic (long story) who definitely believes there is a link. BUT, I think we need to put in perspective the parts that state the most expensive damage. Of course these things will be the most expensive ever, becuase the price of EVERYTHING has gone up. So it makes sense that these disasters were the "costliest". And that may need to applied in regards to the most houses destroyed. Because there are more houses in this day and age.