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No you have not. I must assume your answer is no since you refuse to give a yes or no answer
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Name a doctrine that you used to believe in but dont anymore.
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You're welcome, & that's the truth.
What I say is that one mouth can profess two opinions, but it doesn't change the one truth.
BTW, I appreciate your opinions as well on the rare occaision you offer one.
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Seeing how you couldn't care less, perhaps you should be checking your own salvation credentials. Leave her alone. She owes you nothing more than she's already given and some of us can understand exactly what she's saying. Check your hearing, too, while you're at it...
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Personally, I believe that Calvin was a heretic and if I could go back in time and publicly debate any one person from history, then it would be Calvin.
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For once we agree. I personally consider his theology to be "angry theology" in that it seems rooted in his own personal anger and thus it draws folks who see God and their faith through their own bitterness, and I find myself even wondering if maybe he was some sort of sadist.
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Hey, better late than never, I say.
There was probably a lot of "angry theology" in those days, from both sides, considering the climate of spiritual turmoil and confict and there very well may have been some sadism at Calvin's end. However, from my own personal experience with the Calvinists whom I've personally debated (and I'm not referring to anybody on this forum, as I've basically skirted the issue most of my time here due to my time restrictions), I definitely believe that there is a major underlying element of PRIDE involved. IOW, God chose me, but He didn't choose you. Anyhow, I personally believe that Calvinism has done at least as much (and possibly more) damage to professing Christianity as (than) any other "ism" has. Quite frankly, how anybody could believe his heresies is an absolute mystery to me...and I've heard all of the alleged "apologetics" that there are out there in his attempted defense.
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John Calvin toasted Michael Servetus! And for visiting his home church! It would be something if such a man who devoted his entire life to the reading of God's word now sits in hell for shedding the innocent blood!
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And then... And then... After torching Servetus has the audacity to make those condemning such an act guilty of the same punishment!
"Whoever shall maintain that wrong is done to heretics and blasphemers in punishing them makes himself an accomplice in their crime and guilty as they are. There is no question here of man's authority; it is God who speaks, and clear it is what law he will have kept in the church, even to the end of the world. Wherefore does he demand of us a so extreme severity, if not to show us that due honor is not paid him, so long as we set not his service above every human consideration, so that we spare not kin, nor blood of any, and forget all humanity when the matter is to combat for His glory." - John Calvin
"Whoever shall maintain that wrong is done to heretics and blasphemers in punishing them makes himself an accomplice in their crime and guilty as they are. There is no question here of man's authority; it is God who speaks, and clear it is what law he will have kept in the church, even to the end of the world. Wherefore does he demand of us a so extreme severity, if not to show us that due honor is not paid him, so long as we set not his service above every human consideration, so that we spare not kin, nor blood of any, and forget all humanity when the matter is to combat for His glory." - John Calvin
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Calvin certainly did "toast" him. Was that a reflection of the gospel of Christ? Not even close.
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If I existed in Europe during the time of John Calvin I would have been labeled 'Ana-Baptist' and sent to my own stake. May the blood of the martyrs speak!
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Innocent my....
At least he did not aid in pointing multitudes to Hell like Binney Hinn has done preaching a false Gospel!
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On what basis do you make the bold claim that John Calvin was a heretic? I do hope you understand what Orthodoxy means, and have an idea of the historical theology traced in John Gill's book "The Cause of God and Truth".
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