Name a doctrine that you used to believe in but dont anymore.

[Knee V]

We humans compartmentalize water depending on its purpose.
Grace is grace, but fithy water can kill you. The distinctions between the grace of general providence whereby the world is made liveable, & saving grace that imparts salvation are valid & necessary.
I suggest you compartmentalize.

I respectfully decline.

 

[Rick Otto]

But I suppose that that doesn't apply to Sola Scriptura and making the individual the final arbiter of truth based on what he thinks the Bible means to him?

Straw.
SS makes scripture the final arbiter of truth.
If you want to believe what others tell you it says without verifying it yourself,... I don't generaly advise it.

 

[Knee V]

Straw.
SS makes scripture the final arbiter of truth.
If you want to believe what others tell you it says without verifying it yourself,... I don't generaly advise it.

Your new clothes look fabulous!

 

[ImaginaryDay]

We humans compartmentalize water depending on its purpose.
Grace is grace, but fithy water can kill you. The distinctions between the grace of general providence whereby the world is made liveable, & saving grace that imparts salvation are valid & necessary.
I suggest you compartmentalize.

Filthy grace?

 

[Rick Otto]

I respectfully decline.

Just don't drink from the toilet. It hasn't killed my dog though, if I'm telling you too late.

 

[sonshine234]

One gave up Protestantism

me did, me did

 

[Rick Otto]

Filthy grace?

Sure! After all, grace is grace, right? Bathe in it.

 

[MamaZ]

The Church is not an organisation even though it is organised. It is a people, a holy nation, and a number of other things - a body, a temple, etc.

please tell me about the church being a temple. There is only one body and it bears the Name of Christ. And those who know Christ are a part of this one body. No one can claim to be the only true church.. For that is man staking claim to something that is not even theirs. For it is the Head of the body that knows every part..

 

[Knee V]

Just don't drink from the toilet. It hasn't killed my dog though, if I'm telling you too late.

It is an analogy, not a tautology. Sure, we can corrupt water, but H2O is H2O, and grace is grace.

 

[ImaginaryDay]

Sure! After all, grace is grace, right? Bathe in it.

Grace may have different modes of operation, but it is still grace. I may use water for drinking kool-aid (not advisable in some instances ), and for cooking pasta for dinner tonight, but it's still water.

 

[Gnarwhal]

me did, me did

Me did too!

(Thank God)

 

[Rick Otto]

Your new clothes look fabulous!

 

[Rick Otto]

Grace may have different modes of operation, but it is still grace. I may use water for drinking kool-aid (not advisable in some instances ), and for cooking pasta for dinner tonight, but it's still water.

"My sediments exactly", said the river.

 

[Knee V]

"My sediments exactly", said the river.

Ba-dum, ching!

 

[ImaginaryDay]

"My sediments exactly", said the river.

Ah, but the river can be useful for demonstrating grace, 'sediments' and all...

 

[Tzaousios]

This is one of the things that brought me to reject the Reformed faith. While paying lip service to the idea that tradition is good for helping develop the proper context for interpreting Scripture, the only link to the hostorical understanding of Scripture is a skewed understanding of selected passages from one theologian (Augustine) in one segment of the Church, and then projecting that understanding onto Scripture, especially onto the Apostle Paul.

Yes, I know the feeling very well. Also the frustration!

There was an interesting collection of articles published by SVS Press a few years ago on the Orthodox reception of Augustine:

On Google Books

 

[MamaZ]

You must be a politician because you can't give a straight answer. I wasn't judging just stating a fact you do not believe Christ was a man because you said God is not a man, which Christ is fully God and fully Man. I have seen you advocate heresy here so I just want to know if you really believe in Christianity and one of the big things is the hypostatic union

God is Spirit.. And those who worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth. Do you believe this?

 

[Tzaousios]

Of course THEY wouldn't overtly, yet they believe they can make or break it by their own behavior. It is the cognitive dissonance essential to the position. It's like Romans claiming they don't worship Mary while their own magesterium defines & endorses "hyper-dulia". It's classic "Emperor's New Clothes - ianism" a term I just coined. Spend it wisely.

Like I said, according to the purposes of internet Neocalvinist apologists, sure. However, the linguistic distinction that you pooh-pooh is there for a reason.

 

[MamaZ]

I know. It has been pointed out to MamaZ on a number of occasions that perhaps she conflates her interpretation with THE Word of God. She has yet to offer a cogent explanation of it, though. Seems to happen an awful lot around here.

Some keep trying to point things out but cannot even answer questions given to them. Do you believe what John tells us that we have no need of man to teach us but that the annointing in us teaches us?

 

[Tzaousios]

Do you believe man can do any better? The Lord has established His word forever.

There is that pesky practice of questioning a question with a question, again.

I believe if one comes to the scriptures wanting to seek and desire after truth that we shall know the truth. For Jesus tells us to continue in His word and we shall know the truth and the truth shall set us free.. John tells us we need no man to teach us. So when I go to the scriptures I go with faith knowing that My Father will teach me His word and the Meaning of His word. I do not need to go to man to learn of my Father and what He wants me to know.. I go to my Father through Christ my Lord and His annointing in me teaches me all things.. Now do you believe men can do any better than that? I am not an orphan begging for a fathers love.. I am a child of the Most awesome I Am and I desire to know what He is trying to teach me..For I want my whole life to mimic His..

This dances around answering my question. Again, do you mean that the Holy Spirit delivers the correct, God-sent interpretation for you every single time that you read the Word?